This deck list was revised with the help of -Spooky- and ThatRedwood. They gave some pretty good suggestions. Does anyone else have any? I feel like this deck is lacking something but I do not know what.
The reason why I have it in there is it has land fetch and it can act as removal or a buff depending on what is better at the time. It can Act like a sudo tendrils of corruption.
So with this build, I kill them as they come and not with mass removal. So most likely Ill end up doing turn 2 geths verdict right? And just keep killing their creatures before they amass an army. Then kill them with either big swing or drain life.
So with this build, I kill them as they come and not with mass removal. So most likely Ill end up doing turn 2 geths verdict right? And just keep killing their creatures before they amass an army. Then kill them with either big swing or drain life.
Is this how this deck will run?
That's something black does - and does well.
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You definitely need some more draw spells like Sign in Blood or creatures with beneficial ETB effects like Phyrexian Rager. I also think that not having Gray Merchant of Asphodel in a monoblack drain deck is a huge oversight.
You definitely need some more draw spells like Sign in Blood or creatures with beneficial ETB effects like Phyrexian Rager. I also think that not having Gray Merchant of Asphodel in a monoblack drain deck is a huge oversight.
But even though that would be a good idea to play merchant of asphodel it is not the main objective of this deck. Playing that card is good, I agree, but it just doesn't work with how this deck plays. And What would I take out to put in those other 2 cards (sign in blood and phyrexian rager type stuff) where everything seems to fit nicely.
Regardless of win-cons, you need to get your starting few turns off with a bang if you wanna ramp.
4x Expedition Map
Some number of Cabal Coffers, I like 3.
4 Crypt Ghast
4 Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
Nyx is up to you, but it also begs you to play more perms, and less sorcery/instant removal.
Phyrexian Reclaimation is good here as a two-of.
I'd consider a few Thrull Parasite as a way to gain life from any spell you play.
You win-cons are fairly uninspiring. Liliana of the Dark Realms is awful > I've tried so hard to make this card work...
ANyway, all this mana and what are you really doing with it?
Get some Army of the Damned in there, and if you play multiplayer, like ever, get in a few Exsanguinate.
I concur. Adding Garry is not really an option unless you go the "more permanents" way.
My main problem on paper is that I do not really see you ramping heavily / fast.
I will have to run a few sims on Cockatrice to see how it plays out to add more then I already said in the other post.
Yeah I just recently ran some sims on this deck in Cockatrice and I added a few things:
-Against aggro I need some board clear. So I added 2x Damnation there, and in real life intend to add 2x Mutilate.
-I took out the shrine to nyx and added a second Cabal Coffers. This lead to better results. I also intend to do the same for my actual decks.
-The dark rituals stay in because I can play a crypt ghast turn 2 which is big.
This is what I noticed so far. Also I saw an interesting variant with 4 Pontiff of the blights in it. But I personally like this one better. Also I usually play multi player so Exsanguinate can replace the drain life because it costs the same.
4 Crypt Ghast
4 Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
4 Liliana's Shade
4 Nantuko Shade
4 Dark Ritual
2 Go For the Throat
2 Tendrils Of Corruption
2 Drain Life
4 Duress
3 Geth's Verdict
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
This deck list was revised with the help of -Spooky- and ThatRedwood. They gave some pretty good suggestions. Does anyone else have any? I feel like this deck is lacking something but I do not know what.
Phyrexian Reclamation, for example
maybe take out a couple of Liliana's Shades it's the worst creature in your deck by far.
+2 Go For the Throat
or
+2 Doom Blade
So he can kill off his own Korlash, Ghast, and Shade in the process?
DB, GftT, Tendrils, Drain Life, Geth's Verdict.. much more effective in this sitting.
Or is this deck more of a kill them as they come kind of deck effectively making mutilate useless?
With only 2 copies of Reclamation, you may not see one when you need it..especially with no way to dig for it.
Is this how this deck will run?
That's something black does - and does well.
Wouldn't Victim of Night be a better removal than those options, in general?
That's why I personally just use Innocent Blood, and edicts: Cruel Edict, Diabolic Edict, Chainer's Edict, and occasionally Imperial Edict.
Not a big issue in mono black decks, but that's one trade off.
Also, the edicts are sac effects, doomblade/gftt are targeted removal.
4 Crypt Ghast
4 Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
4 Nantuko Shade
3 Liliana of the Dark Realms
4 Go For the Throat
2 Tendrils Of Corruption
2 Drain Life
2 Pyrexian Reclamation
4 Duress
3 Geth's Verdict
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
And with the above build could this deck be playable in a casual tourney?
But even though that would be a good idea to play merchant of asphodel it is not the main objective of this deck. Playing that card is good, I agree, but it just doesn't work with how this deck plays. And What would I take out to put in those other 2 cards (sign in blood and phyrexian rager type stuff) where everything seems to fit nicely.
4x Expedition Map
Some number of Cabal Coffers, I like 3.
4 Crypt Ghast
4 Korlash, Heir to Blackblade
Nyx is up to you, but it also begs you to play more perms, and less sorcery/instant removal.
Phyrexian Reclaimation is good here as a two-of.
I'd consider a few Thrull Parasite as a way to gain life from any spell you play.
You win-cons are fairly uninspiring. Liliana of the Dark Realms is awful > I've tried so hard to make this card work...
ANyway, all this mana and what are you really doing with it?
Get some Army of the Damned in there, and if you play multiplayer, like ever, get in a few Exsanguinate.
Yeah I just recently ran some sims on this deck in Cockatrice and I added a few things:
-Against aggro I need some board clear. So I added 2x Damnation there, and in real life intend to add 2x Mutilate.
-I took out the shrine to nyx and added a second Cabal Coffers. This lead to better results. I also intend to do the same for my actual decks.
-The dark rituals stay in because I can play a crypt ghast turn 2 which is big.
This is what I noticed so far. Also I saw an interesting variant with 4 Pontiff of the blights in it. But I personally like this one better. Also I usually play multi player so Exsanguinate can replace the drain life because it costs the same.
You can also get 2-for-1'd just as easily.