I know for sure I need 2 more duelists. What i'm not sure about is whether or not I need Honor of the Pure, that many lands, or if Kor Outfitter helps my heavier equipments (Vengeance). Plus the concept of summoning a creature for 2, and allowing it to be equipped or allow another creature to be equipped seems very useful to me.
Shuko is bad. Bonesplitter is better than Shuko. Livewire Lash is terrible here (as you're not playing Groundswell on an Infect creature to have it deal 2 more poison counters to the opponent and then swing). This deck basically waits for the opponent to remove the creature and then they take 2 damage. Big deal- the card is only really good in Infect when it takes away, essentially, 1/5th of the opponent's life (because 10 poison counters = loss, IIRC) at the player's command. You're relying on your opponent's removal for it (if it said spell or ability it'd be sweet here, but it doesn't. ;_;).
Darksteel Axe could just be Bonesplitter. How many opponents go out of their way to destroy a Bonesplitter? For other equipment, I'd seriously recommend looking into the following:
Umezawa's Jitte (expensive but amazing, I can understand why you may look at this and go, "HELL NO!" Keep in mind, if equipped to your Duelist this would gain 4 counters per turn (and the first two gained during the first strike combat damage step could give a +4/+4 buff during the normal combat damage step. Or, you could just, y'know, save 'em till next turn and give your guy +8/+8, hit for 18 and win the game. Either, or).
Banshee's Blade is a cheap card, IIRC. Might fit the budget a bit better.
Loxodon Warhammer. Evasion + Lifelink and an additional +3/0 bonus. On your duelist, that's 8 life per turn by 8 damage dealt, with some of it going to the opponent's face.
Skullclamp. Card advantage is great, if your opponents don't strangle you for playing this card.
I'd actually suggest adding a land or two, but you're contemplating taking some out? ... I'll leave that alone because I don't think I'll be of much help regarding that... sorry.
Oh yeah, why run Ethereal Haze? You've got a weenie deck start, so you should speed right out of the gate. First off, the problem with it is that you're running only 2: You'll never get them when you actually need them. You have an 22% chance of drawing them in your opening hand, most games last til around turn 7, doubling that value to 44%. You'd draw Ethereal Haze once every 2-3 games. That's it. More than likely, when the opponent is attacking you for lethal you won't have it, which sucks. I'd use the slots for Haze to give you one more Judgment and another Oblivion Ring (or possibly more creatures, I don't know).
I play with friends who strictly keep destroying my equipments.
everytime i send out a decent equipment, it gets raped...hard. That's the only reason why I like Darksteel. i'll try for Bonesplitter, if i can find them.
At first i didn't have a creature deck. i ran around 10, and everytime i played i held onto creatures cuz i mass equiped 1 creature. so losing one or 2 to day of judgement wasn't a big deal for me.
(About ethereal haze)
I was thinking exactly the same thing. I didn't like etheral haze nemore, but i keep them in for.. iunno. Trample decks? (This is casual...i've never seen or played against a U/B control or UW control, or even jund).
Is it possible to list modern cards? (Can't find many shops that carry Jitte, Banshee's, Loxodon, Meadowgrain, steelshaper)
Whoa.. lightning greaves. I think i'm in love, i think i saw this and skullclamp in a shop (one of each). Will pick them up indefinitely.
What i really like is Double strikers. Lifelink/Lifegain isn't what i'm aiming for. Sunspear was only in it cuz it was a low drop and cuz of first strike. Are there 2CMC drops for double strike? or am i gonna have to jump from 1CMC DS, to 3CMC Flying DS.
Also, If play with 12 creatures (4 Skirmisher, 4 Stoneforge, 4 Duelist). Can i take out Honor of the Pures? I'm not pure weenie so i fail to see that it's a better draw then say... journey to nowhere. Plus it'd make Day of Judgement less destructive.
Have you considered adding some green for Behemoth Sledge? It's devastating. That would also allow you to take advantage of Livewire Lash with Groundswell as mentioned above.
Auriok Edgewright 2 mana double striker! it seems some more artifacts in your deck if you gonna run him though, i do and love it, i also use x3 aether vial(if you wanna spend so much :o) and x4 ancient den
in my deck i also use kemba,kha regent she helps recovering from Doj and friends, coupled with 1-0 mana cost equipments (greaves/shuko/wargear/bonesplitter/skullclamp) you recover in 1 turn with a board full of cat tokens
the deck has some great interactions flashing leonin shikari with aether vial to ambush equip (equipping unblocked creatures etc) OR equiping kemba at opponent's end of turn for tokens
if you gonna run shikari/kemba dont cut shuko, equiping for 0 at instant speed is awesome, if not cut it for bonesplitters etc
Cut livewire lash, its useless here as mentioned above
cut ethereal haze as mentioned,
if not cutting Doj at least side it
im also testing Dispense Justice atm, i think it worths it with many artifacts in the deck(only if you add ancient dens/aether vials though \(there are better option but its new card so easily obtained)
All i know is your running white equipment so i would find some room for Auriok Steelshaper and Leonin Shikari. Those two together are /slur. Especially with low cost equips like bonesplitter and Lightning Greaves.
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1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
2 Livewire Lash
2 Darksteel Axe
2 Sword of Vengeance
1 Shuko
Creatures
4 Stoneforge Mystics
2 Kor Duelist
4 Skyhunter Skirmisher
4 Sunspear Shikari
3 Kor Outfitter
2 Ethereal Hazes
4 Honor of the Pure
3 Day of Judgements
2 Journey to Nowhere
2 Oblivion Ring
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1 Path to Exile
4 Terashi's Verdict
1 Condemn
I know for sure I need 2 more duelists. What i'm not sure about is whether or not I need Honor of the Pure, that many lands, or if Kor Outfitter helps my heavier equipments (Vengeance). Plus the concept of summoning a creature for 2, and allowing it to be equipped or allow another creature to be equipped seems very useful to me.
Comments would be great. Thanks in advance.
Darksteel Axe could just be Bonesplitter. How many opponents go out of their way to destroy a Bonesplitter? For other equipment, I'd seriously recommend looking into the following:
Umezawa's Jitte (expensive but amazing, I can understand why you may look at this and go, "HELL NO!" Keep in mind, if equipped to your Duelist this would gain 4 counters per turn (and the first two gained during the first strike combat damage step could give a +4/+4 buff during the normal combat damage step. Or, you could just, y'know, save 'em till next turn and give your guy +8/+8, hit for 18 and win the game. Either, or).
Banshee's Blade is a cheap card, IIRC. Might fit the budget a bit better.
Loxodon Warhammer. Evasion + Lifelink and an additional +3/0 bonus. On your duelist, that's 8 life per turn by 8 damage dealt, with some of it going to the opponent's face.
Skullclamp. Card advantage is great, if your opponents don't strangle you for playing this card.
I'd actually suggest adding a land or two, but you're contemplating taking some out? ... I'll leave that alone because I don't think I'll be of much help regarding that... sorry.
Oh yeah, why run Ethereal Haze? You've got a weenie deck start, so you should speed right out of the gate. First off, the problem with it is that you're running only 2: You'll never get them when you actually need them. You have an 22% chance of drawing them in your opening hand, most games last til around turn 7, doubling that value to 44%. You'd draw Ethereal Haze once every 2-3 games. That's it. More than likely, when the opponent is attacking you for lethal you won't have it, which sucks. I'd use the slots for Haze to give you one more Judgment and another Oblivion Ring (or possibly more creatures, I don't know).
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Why are you running Day of Judgment in a creature deck?
All your creatures except the Mystics are Soldiers or Knights, so consider Auriok Steelshaper.
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everytime i send out a decent equipment, it gets raped...hard. That's the only reason why I like Darksteel. i'll try for Bonesplitter, if i can find them.
At first i didn't have a creature deck. i ran around 10, and everytime i played i held onto creatures cuz i mass equiped 1 creature. so losing one or 2 to day of judgement wasn't a big deal for me.
(About ethereal haze)
I was thinking exactly the same thing. I didn't like etheral haze nemore, but i keep them in for.. iunno. Trample decks? (This is casual...i've never seen or played against a U/B control or UW control, or even jund).
Is it possible to list modern cards? (Can't find many shops that carry Jitte, Banshee's, Loxodon, Meadowgrain, steelshaper)
Whoa.. lightning greaves. I think i'm in love, i think i saw this and skullclamp in a shop (one of each). Will pick them up indefinitely.
What i really like is Double strikers. Lifelink/Lifegain isn't what i'm aiming for. Sunspear was only in it cuz it was a low drop and cuz of first strike. Are there 2CMC drops for double strike? or am i gonna have to jump from 1CMC DS, to 3CMC Flying DS.
Also, If play with 12 creatures (4 Skirmisher, 4 Stoneforge, 4 Duelist). Can i take out Honor of the Pures? I'm not pure weenie so i fail to see that it's a better draw then say... journey to nowhere. Plus it'd make Day of Judgement less destructive.
What other decent removals are there?
I'd take out Shuko , Livewire Lash , Sword of Vengeance , and Darksteel Axe for more Sword of Fire and Ice and Sword of Light and Shadow and some Bonesplitter , Grafted Wargear , and Loxodon Warhammer.
Take out Journey to Nowhere for two more Oblivion Ring.
Day of Judgment doesn't fit well in this deck, your probably not gonna want sweepers and gonna want pump cards and spot removal instead.
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Try to get more efficient creatures like Jotun Grunts and Serra Avengers.
You're running too many equips btw.
Why no Aether Vial? Seeing you are on a monocolor theme, why not having a tempo oriented mana disruption package (i.e. wasteland, rishadan port).
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def get some lighting graves especcialy used with leonin shikari give all your creatures shroud
in my deck i also use kemba,kha regent she helps recovering from Doj and friends, coupled with 1-0 mana cost equipments (greaves/shuko/wargear/bonesplitter/skullclamp) you recover in 1 turn with a board full of cat tokens
the deck has some great interactions flashing leonin shikari with aether vial to ambush equip (equipping unblocked creatures etc) OR equiping kemba at opponent's end of turn for tokens
if you gonna run shikari/kemba dont cut shuko, equiping for 0 at instant speed is awesome, if not cut it for bonesplitters etc
Cut livewire lash, its useless here as mentioned above
cut ethereal haze as mentioned,
if not cutting Doj at least side it
there are better options than sunspear shikari , and i think in a equip based deck honor of the pure isn't really needed,
other than these few stuff everything else is mentioned, right ?
oh, sword of body and mind is crying in a corner
im also testing Dispense Justice atm, i think it worths it with many artifacts in the deck(only if you add ancient dens/aether vials though \(there are better option but its new card so easily obtained)
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