A mashup of my previous Heliod deck and the new C15 precon. Still needing some tuning, but the goal is the same: put up a pillowfort behind which I can smack people with enchantment creature tokens.
Generally, this deck does very well if it can survive into the lategame. Heliod is a very potent general: having the ability to create instant speed blockers and to convert your leftover mana into damage shouldn't be underestimated. Myth Realized is also a crazy good finisher: I ended up beating Jarad in with a 13/13 pretty regularly until he was forced to tutor up a Naturalize. The biggest threats to Heliod are mass damage effects that can slip by his pillow fort (like the aforementioned Jarad), so I'm gonna see if I can fit in more sources of life gain and lifelink to offset that. Once I'm able to stabilize, I'm usually able to lock down the table and cruise in for a win.
Any suggestions on sub-optimal cards to cut? I'm heavily considering replacing Cathars' Crusade: this deck just doesn't seem like the right place to abuse it.
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(W/U)(W/U)Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
(W/B)(W/B)Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
(R/G)(R/G)Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
(B/G)(G/U)Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
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(W/U)(U/B)Aminatou, the Fateshifter: And a Child Shall Lead Them (superfriends)
I've been tinkering with a Heliod list myself. Except I have more of an enchantment theme and less creatures (except token producers).
Do you've a decklist? I didn't want to go all in on the enchantment theme, even though it's still present here, because I like having bodies that aren't just Heliod tokens on the field.
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EDH/Commander
(W/U)(W/U)Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
(W/B)(W/B)Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
(R/G)(R/G)Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
(B/G)(G/U)Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
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(W/U)(U/B)Aminatou, the Fateshifter: And a Child Shall Lead Them (superfriends)
Updated the list to reflect IRL changes. I'm adapting it to add an angel tribal theme in addition to the previous enchantress play style. Angels are often big and beefy enough that even one can prove to be a serious threat when it lands. I thought they'd be good finishers, and also give the deck a bit of fun flavor: "Heliod and His Heavenly Host."
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(W/U)(W/U)Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
(W/B)(W/B)Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
(R/G)(R/G)Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
(B/G)(G/U)Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
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(W/U)(U/B)Aminatou, the Fateshifter: And a Child Shall Lead Them (superfriends)
Something to be wary of with Starfield of Nyx, while its enchantment-animating effect is active it will make all of your enchantment creature tokens into 0/0s. It's still a very powerful card but you should be aware of that interaction when playing it.
I'm guessing Ethereal Armor and Shadow Lance are intended to be put on Daxos? Do you find that to be somewhat risky?
Something to be wary of with Starfield of Nyx, while its enchantment-animating effect is active it will make all of your enchantment creature tokens into 0/0s. It's still a very powerful card but you should be aware of that interaction when playing it.
I'm guessing Ethereal Armor and Shadow Lance are intended to be put on Daxos? Do you find that to be somewhat risky?
Having dealt with that interaction with Heliod, I'm well aware of the risk. I normally use it as a recursion tool after a boardwipe, and suicide block with it once I want to get Daxos and his tokens out.
And no, not really. Having a few ways of pushing through commander damage is a good thing for this deck. I mainly wanted to include them as alternate targets for Heliod's Pilgrim, so that when I'm in an advantageous position I can push through even more damage.
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(W/U)(W/U)Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
(W/B)(W/B)Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
(R/G)(R/G)Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
(B/G)(G/U)Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
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(W/U)(U/B)Aminatou, the Fateshifter: And a Child Shall Lead Them (superfriends)
You do know it says "each other", right? So how do you suicide block with it exactly?
...true. Completely forgot about that. That said, I can block with other stuff to get the enchantment count down. Either way, it's never been an issue in any of the games I've played it, either with Heliod or Daxos at the helm, so I wouldn't worry too much.
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EDH/Commander
(W/U)(W/U)Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
(W/B)(W/B)Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
(R/G)(R/G)Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
(B/G)(G/U)Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
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3 Daxos the Returned
Creatures (16)
1 Weathered Wayfarer
2 Nyx-Fleece Ram
2 Oreskos Explorer
2 Underworld Coinsmith
3 Auramancer
3 Bastion Protector
3 Grim Guardian
3 Harvestguard Alseids
3 Heliod's Pilgrim
3 Mesa Enchantress
3 Nighthowler
4 Academy Rector
4 Solemn Simulacrum
5 Celestial Archon
5 Doomwake Giant
6 Magister of Worth
8 Ashen Rider
Instants (4)
1 Path to Exile
2 Batwing Brume
3 Mortify
4 Return to Dust
Sorceries (7)
1 Innocent Blood
3 Read the Bones
6 Austere Command
6 Deadly Tempest
6 Merciless Eviction
6 Plea for Guidance
4x Debt to the Deathless
1 Bloodchief Ascension
1 Ethereal Armor
1 Shadow Lance
2 Animate Dead
2 Blind Obedience
2 Darksteel Mutation
2 Greater Auramancy
2 Luminarch Ascension
2 Shadows of the Past
3 Aura of Silence
3 Ghostly Prison
3 Karmic Justice
3 Phyrexian Arena
3 Shielded by Faith
4 Daxos's Torment
4 Grave Pact
4 No Mercy
5 Black Market
5 Sigil of the Empty Throne
5 Skybind
5 Sphere of Safety
5 Starfield of Nyx
6 Martyr's Bond
6 True Conviction
6 Wound Reflection
7 Debtors' Knell
2x Quarantine Field
1 Expedition Map
1 Helm of the Gods
1 Sol Ring
2 Lightning Greaves
2 Orzhov Signet
2 Thought Vessel
3 Chromatic Lantern
3 Orzhov Keyrune
Lands (37)
13 Plains
10 Swamp
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Caves of Koilos
1 Command Beacon
1 Command Tower
1 Godless Shrine
1 Isolated Chapel
1 Mortuary Mire
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Scoured Barrens
1 Serra's Sanctum
1 Shambling Vent
1 Tainted Field
1 Temple of Silence
1 Vault of the Archangel
4 Heliod, God of the Sun
Creatures (18)
1 Mother of Runes
1 Weathered Wayfarer
2 Spirit of the Labyrinth
3 Auramancer
3 Burnished Hart
3 Eidolon of Rhetoric
3 Heliod's Pilgrim
3 Mentor of the Meek
3 Mesa Enchantress
4 Academy Rector
4 Angel of Jubilation
4 Archangel of Tithes
4 Solemn Simulacrum
5 Celestial Archon
6 Sun Titan
6 Sunblast Angel
7 Emeria Shepherd
7 Resolute Archangel
Instants (4)
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
2 Dawn Charm
4 Return to Dust
Sorceries (8)
2 Gift of Estates
2 Revoke Existence
4 Wrath of God
5 Tragic Arrogance
6 Austere Command
6 Plea for Guidance
7 Mass Calcify
3x Entreat the Angels
1 Ethereal Armor
1 Myth Realized
2 Blind Obedience
2 Darksteel Mutation
2 Greater Auramancy
2 Luminarch Ascension
2 Weight of Conscience
3 Aura of Silence
3 Ghostly Prison
3 Gift of Immortality
3 Spear of Heliod
3 Stasis Snare
3 Unquestioned Authority
4 Angelic Destiny
4 Endless Horizons
4 Faith's Fetters
4 Marshal's Anthem
5 Mystic Barrier
5 Skybind
5 Sigil of the Empty Throne
5 Sphere of Safety
5 Starfield of Nyx
6 Martyr's Bond
6 True Conviction
2x Quarantine Field
1 Expedition Map
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
2 Marble Diamond
2 Mind Stone
2 Pearl Medallion
4 Hedron Archive
Other Lands (37)
0 Plains (27)
0 Blighted Steppe
0 Drifting Meadow
0 Emeria, The Sky Ruin
0 Kor Haven
0 Myriad Landscape
0 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
0 Secluded Steppe
0 Seraph Sanctuary
0 Serra's Sanctum
0 Windbrisk Heights
- (W/U)(W/U) Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
- (W/B)(W/B) Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
- (R/G)(R/G) Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
- (B/G)(G/U) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
Maybe BuildGenerally, this deck does very well if it can survive into the lategame. Heliod is a very potent general: having the ability to create instant speed blockers and to convert your leftover mana into damage shouldn't be underestimated. Myth Realized is also a crazy good finisher: I ended up beating Jarad in with a 13/13 pretty regularly until he was forced to tutor up a Naturalize. The biggest threats to Heliod are mass damage effects that can slip by his pillow fort (like the aforementioned Jarad), so I'm gonna see if I can fit in more sources of life gain and lifelink to offset that. Once I'm able to stabilize, I'm usually able to lock down the table and cruise in for a win.
Any suggestions on sub-optimal cards to cut? I'm heavily considering replacing Cathars' Crusade: this deck just doesn't seem like the right place to abuse it.
- (W/U)(W/U) Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
- (W/B)(W/B) Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
- (R/G)(R/G) Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
- (B/G)(G/U) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
Maybe Build[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
Do you've a decklist? I didn't want to go all in on the enchantment theme, even though it's still present here, because I like having bodies that aren't just Heliod tokens on the field.
- (W/U)(W/U) Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
- (W/B)(W/B) Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
- (R/G)(R/G) Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
- (B/G)(G/U) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
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Creatures:
3 Mentor of the Meek
3 Mirror Entity
4 Academy Rector
4 Jazal Goldmane
Artifacts:
1 Expedition Map
1 Helm of the Gods
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
2 Mind Stone
3 Commander's Sphere
3 Spear of Heliod
5 Norn's Annex
6 Caged Sun
7 Akroma's Memorial
Sorceries:
2 Martial Coup
2 Mine Excavation
3 Entreat the Angels
4 Day of Judgment
4 Decree of Justice
4 Replenish
4 Wrath of God
5 Conqueror's Pledge
5 End Hostilities
5 Rout
5 Tragic Arrogance
6 Austere Command
6 Final Judgment
6 Nomad's Assembly
6 Phyrexian Rebirth
6 Plea for Guidance
6 Terminus
7 Deploy to the Front
7 Hour of Reckoning
7 Mass Calcify
1 Condemn
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Secure the Wastes
1 Swords to Plowshares
4 Return to Dust
Enchantments:
1 Land Tax
1 Myth Realized
2 Greater Auramancy
2 Honor of the Pure
2 Luminarch Ascension
2 Rest in Peace
2 Seal of Cleansing
3 Aura of Silence
3 Crackdown
3 Ghostly Prison
3 Glorious Anthem
3 Oblivion Ring
3 Path of Bravery
3 Sacred Mesa
4 Kismet
5 Cathars' Crusade
5 Dictate of Heliod
5 Sigil of the Empty Throne
5 Skybind
5 Sphere of Safety
5 Starfield of Nyx
6 True Conviction
4 Ajani Goldmane
5 Elspeth Tirel
6 Elsepth, Sun's Champion
Lands:
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Kjeldoran Outpost
1 Kor Haven
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
25 Plains
1 Serra's Sanctum
1 Thawing Glaciers
1 Windbrisk Heights
[EDH Non-Primers] Newzuri | Breya
- (W/U)(W/U) Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
- (W/B)(W/B) Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
- (R/G)(R/G) Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
- (B/G)(G/U) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
Maybe Build- (W/U)(W/U) Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
- (W/B)(W/B) Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
- (R/G)(R/G) Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
- (B/G)(G/U) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
Maybe BuildI'm guessing Ethereal Armor and Shadow Lance are intended to be put on Daxos? Do you find that to be somewhat risky?
R Citizen Cane (Feldon of the Third Path)
Having dealt with that interaction with Heliod, I'm well aware of the risk. I normally use it as a recursion tool after a boardwipe, and suicide block with it once I want to get Daxos and his tokens out.
And no, not really. Having a few ways of pushing through commander damage is a good thing for this deck. I mainly wanted to include them as alternate targets for Heliod's Pilgrim, so that when I'm in an advantageous position I can push through even more damage.
- (W/U)(W/U) Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
- (W/B)(W/B) Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
- (R/G)(R/G) Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
- (B/G)(G/U) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
Maybe BuildSome cool stuff in here for inspiration, liking the Darksteel Mutation.
...true. Completely forgot about that. That said, I can block with other stuff to get the enchantment count down. Either way, it's never been an issue in any of the games I've played it, either with Heliod or Daxos at the helm, so I wouldn't worry too much.
- (W/U)(W/U) Raff Capashen, Ship's Mage: The New da Vinci (historic control)
- (W/B)(W/B) Teysa Karlov: Death Be Not Kind (aristocrats)
- (R/G)(R/G) Hallar, the Firefletcher: Yavimaya Burning (kicker and counters)
- (B/G)(G/U) Sidisi, Brood Tyrant: Queen of the Damned (dredge)
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