Trying to tune this. Please no land destruction and I want to keep this deck away from infinite combos. Am I too heavy somewhere? Too light somewhere else? I only have like three games under my belt so far and almost every good discussion on Wort decks is a year old and missing newer cards as well as being either token strategies or land destruction, and I kind of want to try building Wart heavy nukes which I hear is a path haha. What I do run as far as tokens go is conspire help and/or to produce mana with Mana Echoes.
Should I run both Shamanic Revelation AND Collective Unconscious? Pretty beastly draw especially if it's conspired.
Do you think Treasonous Ogre wants to be in a deck like this?
Should I make room for Praetor's Counsel? Or just keep the Eternal Witness/Recoup/Regrowth that I have now?
Life's Legacy over Momentous Fall? Run both?
I'm leaning on keeping the landfall stuff I have just to keep the ramp spells relevant.
Anything else you have for me would be appreciated as well.
Thanks for checking it out!
Seer's Sundial might go back in since it adds value to the ramp spells. Mycoloth was replaced with Ant Queen mostly so if Mana Echoes is out I don't lose all that mana during my upkeep, she's a ritual on-call essentially. Fecundity out too, might return, but CU can be conspired, who knows? Garruk is in for now in anticipation of a Gaea's Cradle I should be getting as well as giving me a possible outside win with the overrun ability.
My thought with Farhaven Elf was that it could find Mountains, tbh it's on the chopping block haha. And if I can get my mitts on another Chaos Warp I'll probably find room in this deck but the that I do have are needed more in other decks
Those other suggestions would fit more with a token heavy deck, which Im doing already with a Rhys deck haha. I wanna sling some NUKES with Wort! That being said I love Mogg Infestation and it would for sure be a nuke conspired with big papa Purph on the board!
List looks pretty good to build from. It looks like your a more aggro version of Wort. I would probably add Dragon Fodder as another token producer. Also Overrun effects are great in token builds. Triumph of the Hordes comes to mind.
Defense of the Heart would also be a good early game card to keep people from swarming you, though it may give off the signal you run zealous+kiki, which makes you a target and will definitely slow people building creature boards.
Reach of Branches seems like a super sweet card to use. I may actually try it in my list.
Tangaray: I just took out almost all the little token spells, I'm not sure about it though haha. I really want this deck to be about the spells first and tokens as a back up although I understand I need a few tokens to help with the conspiring. I'm tempted to take out Purph because I don't want Tooth and Nail to always get Purph and Avenger. I did add in a Mana Reflection and am keeping an eye out for Doubling Cube.
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker - Is there enough targets in here to make him worth it? Also, it's so hard to find a fair deck to put him in haha. Ashnod's Altar - Enough tokens right now? I keep saying I want this to be more about big spells than tokens and this is in here...same with Goblin Bombardment Sylvan Offering - I feel like I mainly have it in here to be used as a ritual with Mana Echoes out
not sure what I would put in, I kind of really want to try out Seer's Sundial and I'm wondering if the little goblin token spells should come back. Might replace an X spell with Starstorm as well
after playing a couple of games with the most recent list, I can't ignore the tokens haha, won out of nowhere with no board presence prior and an uncastable Wort... but I had a ton of lands
Should I run both Shamanic Revelation AND Collective Unconscious? Pretty beastly draw especially if it's conspired.
Do you think Treasonous Ogre wants to be in a deck like this?
Should I make room for Praetor's Counsel? Or just keep the Eternal Witness/Recoup/Regrowth that I have now?
Life's Legacy over Momentous Fall? Run both?
I'm leaning on keeping the landfall stuff I have just to keep the ramp spells relevant.
Anything else you have for me would be appreciated as well.
Thanks for checking it out!
1x Boundless Realms
1x Clan Defiance
1x Reap and Sow
1x Cultivate
1x Decimate
1x Explosive Vegetation
1x Fanning the Flames
1x Farseek
1x Firecat Blitz
1x Nostalgic Dreams
1x Harmonize
1x Hordeling Outburst
1x Howl of the Horde
1x Hull Breach
1x Kodama's Reach
1x Beacon of Creation
1x Nature's Lore
1x Rampant Growth
1x Recoup
1x Reforge the Soul
1x Regrowth
1x Rolling Thunder
1x Rude Awakening
1x Shamanic Revelation
1x Skyshroud Claim
1x Primal Command
1x Sylvan Offering
1x Tooth and Nail
1x Wurmcalling
1x Fires of Yavimaya
1x Goblin Bombardment
1x Goblinslide
1x Mana Echoes
1x Mana Reflection
Planeswalker (2)
1x Garruk Wildspeaker
1x Xenagos, the Reveler
Creature (14)
1x Ant Queen
1x Avenger of Zendikar
1x Beetleback Chief
1x Charmbreaker Devils
1x Dragon Broodmother
1x Eternal Witness
1x Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1x Krenko, Mob Boss
1x Oracle of Mul Daya
1x Purphoros, God of the Forge
1x Rampaging Baloths
1x Siege-Gang Commander
1x Ulasht, the Hate Seed
1x Vexing Shusher
Land (38)
1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1x Evolving Wilds
16x Forest
1x Gruul Turf
1x Kher Keep
13x Mountain
1x Reliquary Tower
1x Terramorphic Expanse
1x Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle
1x Wooded Foothills
1x Gaea's Cradle
1x Artifact Mutation
1x Beast Within
1x Comet Storm
1x Fresh Meat
1x Harrow
1x Momentous Fall
1x Crop Rotation
1x Urza's Rage
Artifact (3)
1x Ashnod's Altar
1x Mirari
1x Skullclamp
Commander
1x Wort, the Raidmother
there's a maybeboard on tappedout http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/wort-the-nukemother/
UPDATE CHANGE EDIT LOG:
OUT:
Fecundity, Seer's Sundial, Mycoloth
IN:
Collective Unconscious, Ant Queen, Garruk Wildspeaker
Seer's Sundial might go back in since it adds value to the ramp spells. Mycoloth was replaced with Ant Queen mostly so if Mana Echoes is out I don't lose all that mana during my upkeep, she's a ritual on-call essentially. Fecundity out too, might return, but CU can be conspired, who knows? Garruk is in for now in anticipation of a Gaea's Cradle I should be getting as well as giving me a possible outside win with the overrun ability.
UPDATE 6-27-15
OUT
Spontaneous Generation
Collective Unconscious
Sakura-Tribe Elder
Lightning Greaves
Ranger's Path
Farhaven Elf
Krenko's Command
Goblin Rally
Mountain
IN:
Mana Reflection
Xenagos, the Reveler
Primal Command
Reap and Sow
Urza's Rage
Beacon of Creation
Crop Rotation
Nosalgic Dreams
Gaea's Cradle
Wort rules
GRWort, Control
UBDralnu, Reanimator
Those other suggestions would fit more with a token heavy deck, which Im doing already with a Rhys deck haha. I wanna sling some NUKES with Wort! That being said I love Mogg Infestation and it would for sure be a nuke conspired with big papa Purph on the board!
Haste outlets: Ogre Battle-driver is great in this kinda build.
Also may wanna look at some mana doublers such as Mana Reflection and Doubling Cube. You could also switch to Snow-Covered lands, and use Extraplanar Lens. Also you could go for your Parallel Lives and Doubling Season to help your token producers.
Defense of the Heart would also be a good early game card to keep people from swarming you, though it may give off the signal you run zealous+kiki, which makes you a target and will definitely slow people building creature boards.
Reach of Branches seems like a super sweet card to use. I may actually try it in my list.
EDH Decks
Thanks To DarkNightCavalier For the Sig!!!
Tangaray: I just took out almost all the little token spells, I'm not sure about it though haha. I really want this deck to be about the spells first and tokens as a back up although I understand I need a few tokens to help with the conspiring. I'm tempted to take out Purph because I don't want Tooth and Nail to always get Purph and Avenger. I did add in a Mana Reflection and am keeping an eye out for Doubling Cube.
EDH Decks
Thanks To DarkNightCavalier For the Sig!!!
Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker - Is there enough targets in here to make him worth it? Also, it's so hard to find a fair deck to put him in haha.
Ashnod's Altar - Enough tokens right now? I keep saying I want this to be more about big spells than tokens and this is in here...same with Goblin Bombardment
Sylvan Offering - I feel like I mainly have it in here to be used as a ritual with Mana Echoes out
not sure what I would put in, I kind of really want to try out Seer's Sundial and I'm wondering if the little goblin token spells should come back. Might replace an X spell with Starstorm as well
something something Ashnod's Altar, Vexing Shusher, Beacon of Creation, an Eternal Witness, a Recoup an Avenger of Zendikar, a Gaea's Cradle that I had to use prior to the Avenger because he tried to Mystic Snake the Altar and a Fanning the Flames for about 30 to smoke the last guy out at 27 life and a win on the board. Can't remember the line exactly but that's pretty close
I guess maybe I just wonder if I have the right balance of stuff in the deck, something about Wort has captured my interest in a big way