Hey guys,
Here's my attempt at a Glissa deck with the goal of being casual yet somewhat competitive.
I've had a quick look through multiple lists and thrown together a list of cards that I feel are strong and relevant enough.
Any suggestions for replacements or cuts are much appreciated.
How has Thornbite Staff been working out for you? In my Glissa deck I always found it extremely underwhelming (just too much mana) and eventually replaced it with more reliable removal.
Cards to consider:
Deathreap Ritual: That this card doesn't see more play never ceases to amaze me; great in tandem with Glissa Reaper of the Wilds: See above Salvaging Station: Sort of a second Glissa that requires more situational removal Vedalken Orrery: Useful by itself; ridiculous with Seedborn Muse Genesis: This card is so damn useful, especially with Buried Alive and all the citp triggers your deck runs
Potential cards to cut:
Thornbite Staff
Moriok Replica
Garruk Relentless
Courser of Kruphix
How has Thornbite Staff been working out for you? In my Glissa deck I always found it extremely underwhelming (just too much mana) and eventually replaced it with more reliable removal.
I have excellent luck with it (and Triangle of War) in my Glissa deck BUT I'm running all deathtouch, so there's always some Ophiomancer token or other random deathtoucher looking to wear it, plus it equips for free to Vampire Nighthawk. In a less deathtouchy deck I can see it, like Triangle of War, being less useful. Putting it on the same dude as Viridan Longbow is hilarious, though. Kill all the things.
Deathreap Ritual: That this card doesn't see more play never ceases to amaze me; great in tandem with Glissa
I'll second this, just all value.
I also have amazing luck with Mishra's Bauble and Urza's Bauble. I've drawn well over a twenty cards in a game off one before with a Vedalken Orrery in play, and probably a dozen without it. I hate giving up two slots to such goofball cards, but they're unbelievable draw engines in my particular Glissa deck.
Even though you're running Bojuka Bog already I'd at least consider Tormod's Crypt. It's saved me on plenty of occasions.
How has Thornbite Staff been working out for you? In my Glissa deck I always found it extremely underwhelming (just too much mana) and eventually replaced it with more reliable removal.
Cards to consider:
Deathreap Ritual: That this card doesn't see more play never ceases to amaze me; great in tandem with Glissa Reaper of the Wilds: See above Salvaging Station: Sort of a second Glissa that requires more situational removal Vedalken Orrery: Useful by itself; ridiculous with Seedborn Muse Genesis: This card is so damn useful, especially with Buried Alive and all the citp triggers your deck runs
Potential cards to cut:
Thornbite Staff
Moriok Replica
Garruk Relentless
Courser of Kruphix
Having played a lot different Glissa builds I can agree with the cutting of Thornbite Staff, it looks good on paper but I've almost never been in a spot where I really gunned a lot of things down. On the other hand I love me some Moriok Replica, I use that card a lot in long grindy type games.
Thanks for all the suggestions! Unable to edit the thread at the moment due to the 'Non Latin Unicode Character' error, but I'll document the changes here!
You decklist looks pretty good. Hits all the major players in Golgari colors but with only 18 artifacts, I really feel as though you aren't using Glissa's recursion engine to the fullest.
My Glissa list started very similarly to yours: mostly ramp into big things with some good black graveyard/sacrifice synergies and simple artifact recursion where I could. As my meta became more competitive, though, winning through combat was less likely (lots of board wipes and prison effects) so I shifted gears and really went the artifact recursion/combo route, while retaining some of the powerhouse creatures: Vorinclex, Mikaeus, Triskelion, Wurmcoil Engine, etc.
Now, you don't have to go down that route, but there are some artifact engines you should consider without having to go combo-centric. Here are my suggestions:
Karn, Silver Golem. This dude is a powerhouse. Have an evasive creature about to smack you with Sword of Body and Mind? pay (1), animate the sword and it falls off the equipped creature. Want to get around Mana Vault/Mana Crypt downsides? pay (1) to animate them. They die as state-based-action and you can recur them with Glissa or Salvaging Station later.
Salvaging Station. Can combo off easily with other graveyard/sac effects, but even just being able to get back cards like Lotus Bloom/Lotus Petal/Mana Crypt and your spellbombs/Expedition Map, etc back is worth the slot, IMO.
Kark-Clan Ironworks. Instant speed ways to get artifacts in the yard for Glissa triggers or Karn + Salvaging station shenanigans. Animate an artifact with Karn, then sac it to KCI. If it's <=1 cmc you can tap Salvaging Station to get it back. Repeat this process for infinite colorless mana/enters the graveyard triggers, etc. Really gross with edict enchantments like Grave Pact since the Karn-animated artifacts are creatures when they hit the yard. Also, with Sensei's Divining Top + KCI + Karn + Salvaging Station, you can draw your whole deck (and make inf colorless mana) or use it like a free Necropotence.
More artifact ramp. Lotus Bloom is good if you only suspend and cast it once, but it gets REALLY good when you can Salvaging Station it back into play. Casting and cracking 2x Black Lotus per turn is... broken and lets you drop those fatties absurdly fast.
Tooth and Nail. This really needs to be in your list. Even if you aren't going for the Mikaeus/Triskelion combo, the utility is fantastic. With as much ramp as you have access to, it's not uncommon to see this get entwined by T4 (I have).
Crop Rotation. Just an all-star at making sure you hit your Cabal Coffers/Urborg combo, or if you wanna get spicy, toss in Boseiju, Who Shelters All so that your huge Genesis Wave/Exsanguinate/Tooth and Nail/Black and Green Sun's Zeniths/etc make it past permission.
Here is my list, currently. I haven't really updated it since Origins, but it's fairly well-tuned at this point. It's a bit spikier than what you'd typically find at a kitchen table, but you don't have to go all-out combo in order to include some of the raw value engines in the deck.
I would cut every non-artifact creature and every enchantment. The point of glissa is to recur your toolbox.
All of the mana dorks can be replaced by artifacts that grab lands into hand/play or mana rocks. Also, look into the free artifact cantrips. Engineered explosives, ratchet bomb, powder keg, and most importantly plague boiler actually are useful. Put a few spells that make tokens for all players and suddenly your picking up your graveyard. Playing free artifacts to cantrip and attritioning others out.
Ark of blight is amazing too.
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Here's my attempt at a Glissa deck with the goal of being casual yet somewhat competitive.
I've had a quick look through multiple lists and thrown together a list of cards that I feel are strong and relevant enough.
Any suggestions for replacements or cuts are much appreciated.
Thanks!
1 Glissa, the Traitor
//Creatures 22
1 Birds of Paradise
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Eternal Witness
1 Burnished Hart
1 Sylvok Replica
1 Courser of Kruphix
1 Fleshbag Marauder
1 Yavimaya Elder
1 Oracle of Mul Daya
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Crypt Ghast
1 Phyrexian Obliterator
1 Acidic Slime
1 Genesis
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Duplicant
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Harvester of Souls
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
//Sorceries & Instants - 16
1 Entomb
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Go for the Throat
1 Sylvan Scrying
1 Beast Within
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Putrefy
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Krosan Grip
1 Damnation
1 Decree of Pain
1 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Genesis Wave
1 Exsanguinate
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
1 Expedition Map
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
1 Executioner's Capsule
1 Horizon Spellbomb
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Golgari Signet
1 Mind Stone
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Swiftfoot Boots
1 Commander's Sphere
1 Darksteel Plate
1 Mimic Vat
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Trading Post
//Enchantments 6
1 Sylvan Library
1 Necropotence
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Grave Pact
1 Dictate of Erebos
//Lands 37
1 Command Tower
1 Bayou
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Twilight Mire
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Woodland Cemetery
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Marsh Flats
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Forbidden Orchard
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Windswept Heath
1 Misty Rainforest
1 Polluted Delta
1 Temple of Malady
1 Tree of Tales
1 Vault of Whispers
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Tainted Wood
1 Reliquary Tower
7 Swamp
7 Forest
1 Nirkana Revenant
1 Grave Titan
1 Thornbite Staff
1 Soul of the Harvest
1 Viridian Longbow
1 Cultivate
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Survival of the Fittest
1 Mindslaver
1 Plague Boiler
1 Scavenging Ooze
EDH
U Azami, Lady of Scrolls
GBGlissa, the Traitor
Modern
X Affinity
EDH
BUGTasigur, the Golden Fang (French 1v1)
Modern
RWG Burn
EDH
U Azami, Lady of Scrolls
GBGlissa, the Traitor
Modern
X Affinity
EDH
BUGTasigur, the Golden Fang (French 1v1)
Modern
RWG Burn
Jarad Graveyard Combo[Primer]!
Sidisi ANT!
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Cards to consider:
Deathreap Ritual: That this card doesn't see more play never ceases to amaze me; great in tandem with Glissa
Reaper of the Wilds: See above
Salvaging Station: Sort of a second Glissa that requires more situational removal
Vedalken Orrery: Useful by itself; ridiculous with Seedborn Muse
Genesis: This card is so damn useful, especially with Buried Alive and all the citp triggers your deck runs
Potential cards to cut:
Thornbite Staff
Moriok Replica
Garruk Relentless
Courser of Kruphix
I have excellent luck with it (and Triangle of War) in my Glissa deck BUT I'm running all deathtouch, so there's always some Ophiomancer token or other random deathtoucher looking to wear it, plus it equips for free to Vampire Nighthawk. In a less deathtouchy deck I can see it, like Triangle of War, being less useful. Putting it on the same dude as Viridan Longbow is hilarious, though. Kill all the things.
I'll second this, just all value.
I also have amazing luck with Mishra's Bauble and Urza's Bauble. I've drawn well over a twenty cards in a game off one before with a Vedalken Orrery in play, and probably a dozen without it. I hate giving up two slots to such goofball cards, but they're unbelievable draw engines in my particular Glissa deck.
Even though you're running Bojuka Bog already I'd at least consider Tormod's Crypt. It's saved me on plenty of occasions.
GReki, the History of Kamigawa Legendfall
UGEdric, Spymaster of Trest Drawmaster of Trest | GBGlissa the Traitor A Touch of Death | WBTeysa, Orzhov Scion Spinning in Graves
UWIsperia, Supreme Judge A Riddles of Sphinxes | RG Mena and Denn, Wildborn Beware Falling Rocks | GWSigarda, Host of Hurons The Enchantress
WRGRith the Awakener Superfriendly Tokens
Having played a lot different Glissa builds I can agree with the cutting of Thornbite Staff, it looks good on paper but I've almost never been in a spot where I really gunned a lot of things down. On the other hand I love me some Moriok Replica, I use that card a lot in long grindy type games.
+ Deathreap Ritual
- Thornbite Staff
- Garruk Relentless
- Liliana of the Dark Realms
- Moriok Replica
Finally got the deck size down to 100!
I picked up a copies of Damnation and Liliana of the Veil over the weekend, would any of these be worthy additions to the deck?
EDH
U Azami, Lady of Scrolls
GBGlissa, the Traitor
Modern
X Affinity
EDH
BUGTasigur, the Golden Fang (French 1v1)
Modern
RWG Burn
+ Steel Hellkite
+ Grave Pact
+ Mimic Vat
+ Damnation
+ Crypt Ghast
- Deathreap ritual
- Grave Titan
- Grim Haruspex
- Awakening Zone
- Nirkana Revenant
EDH
U Azami, Lady of Scrolls
GBGlissa, the Traitor
Modern
X Affinity
EDH
BUGTasigur, the Golden Fang (French 1v1)
Modern
RWG Burn
Other suggestions are much appreciated, in particular cuts to make for cards such as Swiftfoot boots.
EDH
U Azami, Lady of Scrolls
GBGlissa, the Traitor
Modern
X Affinity
EDH
BUGTasigur, the Golden Fang (French 1v1)
Modern
RWG Burn
At the moment I'm trying to find cuts for Nirkana Revenant, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, Rune-scarred Demon and perhaps Grave Titan. Suggestions much appreciated as always
EDH
U Azami, Lady of Scrolls
GBGlissa, the Traitor
Modern
X Affinity
EDH
BUGTasigur, the Golden Fang (French 1v1)
Modern
RWG Burn
UG Ezuri... since been corrupted
BRG Prossh, the Sacrifice Engine
GR Bobo, the Mad Land-chucker (retired)
GU Kruphix, Open the Valves (retired)
UU Talrand, Spell Summoner (retired)
GG Ezuri, Ready-Made Leader (retired)
EDH
U Azami, Lady of Scrolls
GBGlissa, the Traitor
Modern
X Affinity
EDH
BUGTasigur, the Golden Fang (French 1v1)
Modern
RWG Burn
Merciless Executioner is Fleshbag #2 if you want another one.
Triangle of War is a quirky card with Glissa. Also has applications with Phyrexian Obliterator.
My Glissa list started very similarly to yours: mostly ramp into big things with some good black graveyard/sacrifice synergies and simple artifact recursion where I could. As my meta became more competitive, though, winning through combat was less likely (lots of board wipes and prison effects) so I shifted gears and really went the artifact recursion/combo route, while retaining some of the powerhouse creatures: Vorinclex, Mikaeus, Triskelion, Wurmcoil Engine, etc.
Now, you don't have to go down that route, but there are some artifact engines you should consider without having to go combo-centric. Here are my suggestions:
Here is my list, currently. I haven't really updated it since Origins, but it's fairly well-tuned at this point. It's a bit spikier than what you'd typically find at a kitchen table, but you don't have to go all-out combo in order to include some of the raw value engines in the deck.
Hope this helps/is valuable.
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BUGReanimatorBUG
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BGGlissaGB
All of the mana dorks can be replaced by artifacts that grab lands into hand/play or mana rocks. Also, look into the free artifact cantrips. Engineered explosives, ratchet bomb, powder keg, and most importantly plague boiler actually are useful. Put a few spells that make tokens for all players and suddenly your picking up your graveyard. Playing free artifacts to cantrip and attritioning others out.
Ark of blight is amazing too.