This is my first cut at a Marchesa deck. I built it from the remnants of my Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge deck, and initially has many of the same creatures--vampires and wizards. Most of the vampires got trimmed out despite the counter synergies, but I still found many of the wizards valuable and worked well with Marchesa and one of her better new supporting cast members, Sage of Fables.
The deck has been performing well, but it could perform better and I foresee some weaknesses. Any input or experiences from folks who have been using their own decks with good results is certainly appreciated.
Latest update:
Several improvements to the mana base
New Tech!
1) Deathrender (and Godo, Bandit Warlord to fetch it) promises an easy way to get several creatures into play.
2) Mindslicer provides great tech against counter-heavy card advantage tech.
3) Added Grim Haruspex from Khans
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Mulldrifter seems like the sketchiest loss. My card draw is strong, but giving up Mulldrifter may be too much.
Considering I am adding some rogues, I wonder if Knowledge Exploitation could solve my enchantment woes. And for that matter, if there are any other rogues that would go well in the deck.
Mulldrifter seems like the sketchiest loss. My card draw is strong, but giving up Mulldrifter may be too much.
Considering I am adding some rogues, I wonder if Knowledge Exploitation could solve my enchantment woes. And for that matter, if there are any other rogues that would go well in the deck.
I would add sygg, river cutthroat if you were going rogues, but main thing here, is mulldrifter is incredibly good, I would run that over swan song or wild richochet. Blind Zealot is incredibly strong, it's either a repeatable doom blade or evasive beater, can't really lose in either situation, of course unless your facing a black heavy meta
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
I would add sygg, river cutthroat if you were going rogues, but main thing here, is mulldrifter is incredibly good, I would run that over swan song or wild richochet. Blind Zealot is incredibly strong, it's either a repeatable doom blade or evasive beater, can't really lose in either situation, of course unless your facing a black heavy meta
Thinking about it a bit more, I think it's best to keep Mulldrifter, but the card I think I'll cut for it is Deep Analysis. It almost does the same thing, but I'm more likely to recur Mulldrifter, and like you say, it's an evasive beater (potentially a pretty sizable one with Marchesa powering it).
I think I'll op test Wild Ricochet and Swan Song for a bit before I give up on those though.
Those additions would set you back about 25 bucks or so, which isn't bad and will improve the deck a bunch I think. I put them in the order of importance that I think will work for you. After those I would start adding money to that manabase, starting with shocks and checks, moving up eventually to fetches then duals.
Modern: UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy: UWBMiracles
Edh: UUUThassa Control WWWHokori Stax GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy BBBGriselbrand French List RBGShattergang(Super Villians) RWGHazezon Flicker UBRMarchesa Aggro URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
The deck has been performing well, but it could perform better and I foresee some weaknesses. Any input or experiences from folks who have been using their own decks with good results is certainly appreciated.
4 Marchesa, The Black Rose
Creatures (29)
1 Viscera Seer
2 Oona's Blackguard
3 Burnished Hart
3 Dark Impostor
3 Grim Haruspex
3 Sage of Fables
3 Thassa, God of the Sea
4 Archaeomancer
4 Cytoplast Manipulator
4 Dack's Duplicate
4 Disciple of Bolas
4 Glen Elendra Archmage
4 Mindslicer
4 Olivia Voldaren
5 Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
5 Mercurial Chemister
5 Mulldrifter
5 River Kelpie
5 Zealous Conscripts
6 Flayer of the Hatebound
6 Godo, Bandit Warlord
6 Harvester of Souls
6 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
6 Necropolis Regent
6 Novijen Sages
7 Phyrexian Ingester
7 Rune-Scarred Demon
7 Thraximundar
10 Greater Gargadon
2 Goblin Bombardment
3 Aggravated Assault
3 Unspeakable Symbol
5 Dictate of Erebos
7 Grave Betrayal
Sorceries & Instants (17)
1 Swan Song
1 Vandalblast
2 Rakdos Charm
2 Terminate
3 Counterflux
3 Crosis's Charm
3 Soul Manipulation
3 Spell Crumple
3 Sudden Spoiling
4 Diabolic Tutor
4 Into the Core
4 Rite of Replication
4 Wild Ricochet
5 Beacon of Unrest
5 Living Death
8 Decree of Pain
9 Blasphemous Act
Artifacts (8)
1 Skullclamp
1 Sol Ring
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
2 Swiftfoot Boots
3 Ashnod's Altar
3 Chromatic Lantern
3 Sword of Feast and Famine
4 Deathrender
3 Dack Fayden
8 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Lands (38)
5 Island
4 Mountain
6 Swamp
1 Blood Crypt
1 Bloodstained Mire
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Command Tower
1 Crumbling Necropolis
1 Dragonskull Summit
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Grixis Panorama
1 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Mana Confluence
1 Molten Slagheap
1 Opal Palace
1 Polluted Delta
1 Rakdos Carnarium
1 Rupture Spire
1 Shivan Reef
1 Sulfur Falls
1 Temple of Deceit
1 Temple of Epiphany
1 Temple of Malice
1 Temple of the False God
1 Watery Grave
Future considerations:
Here's a few cards I am considering trying to find a spot for:
Latest update:
Several improvements to the mana base
New Tech!
1) Deathrender (and Godo, Bandit Warlord to fetch it) promises an easy way to get several creatures into play.
2) Mindslicer provides great tech against counter-heavy card advantage tech.
3) Added Grim Haruspex from Khans
Roon of the Pod People (Roon of the Hidden Realm)
Sydri, Super Genius (Sydri, Galvanic Genius)
Marchesa, the Black Rose
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Retired:
Grimgrin's Corpse-Beats (Grimgrin, Corpse-Born) | Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge | Varolz, the Scar-Striped (1v1) | Glissa, the Traitor
6/27/14:
- Brainstorm
- Dreadbore
- Fleshbag Marauder
- Dismiss
- Mulldrifter
+ Swan Song
+ Marchesa's Smuggler
+ Oona's Blackguard
+ Blind Zealot
+ Wild Ricochet
10/8 several updates:
Deathrender
Godo, Bandit Warlord
Mindslicer
Grim Haruspex
Fetchlands from KTK
Roon of the Pod People (Roon of the Hidden Realm)
Sydri, Super Genius (Sydri, Galvanic Genius)
Marchesa, the Black Rose
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Retired:
Grimgrin's Corpse-Beats (Grimgrin, Corpse-Born) | Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge | Varolz, the Scar-Striped (1v1) | Glissa, the Traitor
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/562460-solrunes-marchesa-the-black-rose-flipping-thrones
Ive been compiling and testing cards pretty aggressively if you need some ideas, I try to go through each choice and the thoughts behind them.
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
I'm trying these changes:
- Brainstorm
- Dreadbore
- Fleshbag Marauder
- Dismiss
- Mulldrifter
+ Swan Song
+ Marchesa's Smuggler
+ Oona's Blackguard
+ Blind Zealot
+ Wild Ricochet
Mulldrifter seems like the sketchiest loss. My card draw is strong, but giving up Mulldrifter may be too much.
Considering I am adding some rogues, I wonder if Knowledge Exploitation could solve my enchantment woes. And for that matter, if there are any other rogues that would go well in the deck.
Roon of the Pod People (Roon of the Hidden Realm)
Sydri, Super Genius (Sydri, Galvanic Genius)
Marchesa, the Black Rose
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Retired:
Grimgrin's Corpse-Beats (Grimgrin, Corpse-Born) | Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge | Varolz, the Scar-Striped (1v1) | Glissa, the Traitor
I would add sygg, river cutthroat if you were going rogues, but main thing here, is mulldrifter is incredibly good, I would run that over swan song or wild richochet. Blind Zealot is incredibly strong, it's either a repeatable doom blade or evasive beater, can't really lose in either situation, of course unless your facing a black heavy meta
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Thinking about it a bit more, I think it's best to keep Mulldrifter, but the card I think I'll cut for it is Deep Analysis. It almost does the same thing, but I'm more likely to recur Mulldrifter, and like you say, it's an evasive beater (potentially a pretty sizable one with Marchesa powering it).
I think I'll op test Wild Ricochet and Swan Song for a bit before I give up on those though.
Sygg does seem pretty good.
Roon of the Pod People (Roon of the Hidden Realm)
Sydri, Super Genius (Sydri, Galvanic Genius)
Marchesa, the Black Rose
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Retired:
Grimgrin's Corpse-Beats (Grimgrin, Corpse-Born) | Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge | Varolz, the Scar-Striped (1v1) | Glissa, the Traitor
- Dismiss + Hinder
- Soul Manipulation + venser, shaper savant(absolutely amazing in the deck)
- dark impostor + shriekmaw/Shadowborn Demon(absolutely amazing in the deck)
- into the core + shatterstorm
- crosis's charm + hero's downfall
- mercurial chemister + carrion feeder(absolutely amazing in the deck)
Those additions would set you back about 25 bucks or so, which isn't bad and will improve the deck a bunch I think. I put them in the order of importance that I think will work for you. After those I would start adding money to that manabase, starting with shocks and checks, moving up eventually to fetches then duals.
Draft it Here!
UUUBlue Man Group
Legacy:
UWBMiracles
Edh:
UUUThassa Control
WWWHokori Stax
GGGJolrael, Empress of Land Stompy
BBBGriselbrand French List
RBGShattergang(Super Villians)
RWGHazezon Flicker
UBRMarchesa Aggro
URGMaelstom Wanderer (Maelstorm)
Edit: oh, and Mindslicer, which has been an absolute house against card advantage strategies.
Roon of the Pod People (Roon of the Hidden Realm)
Sydri, Super Genius (Sydri, Galvanic Genius)
Marchesa, the Black Rose
Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Retired:
Grimgrin's Corpse-Beats (Grimgrin, Corpse-Born) | Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge | Varolz, the Scar-Striped (1v1) | Glissa, the Traitor