Hey all, just creating one of my first EDH decks. Im on a budget but I will acquire more cards when the time comes and when I have enough money. I really liked the idea of making a Voltron deck hence Bruna as my General. I wanted to make a Azorius deck also. I normally play Azorius. I got U/W control and U/W aggro decks. Now I just need a Azorius EDH. I made this EDH deck but IM not too sure if I wanted to use some of the creatures I used. Help and suggestions are welcome. I really need the help only been in MTG for like a year now.
18 June 2014
Ok, just played this deck against some friends. I won it, I think it was a fluke lol. I managed to get my Bruna, Light of Alabaster out on turn 7. Then I was able to get this beast out Mirror-Mad Phantasm . I milled myself out to 27 cards left in library. I was able to get this following enchantments thanks to Bruna's ability. So bruna got equipped with Celestial Mantle , Eldrazi Conscription , Curiosity , Favorable Destiny , Ethereal Armor , Battle Mastery , Vow of Flight , Aurmancer's Guise and Vanishing . Making Bruna a whooping 53/54. Completely owned my opponents and got my life to 248. What an awesome match.
Something I noticed was that I didnt get much creatures out at all. I only had [Mirror-Mad Phantasm out. Im thinking need more creatures would be good and I was thinking I need some beaters in there too. What you guys think?
I like playing defensively. can someone tell me hoe to make my creatures more I guess "Pillow Fort"? Im thinking of having my creatures go pillow fort until I pull of bruna. Wall of Denial would be good for pillow forting. I do like the idea of using Mirror-Sigil Sergeant.
Ok, just played this deck against some friends. I won it, I think it was a fluke lol. I managed to get my Bruna, Light of Alabaster out on turn 7. Then I was able to get this beast out Mirror-Mad Phantasm . I milled myself out to 27 cards left in library. I was able to get this following enchantments thanks to Bruna's ability. So bruna got equipped with Celestial Mantle , Eldrazi Conscription , Curiosity , Favorable Destiny , Ethereal Armor , Battle Mastery , Vow of Flight , Aurmancer's Guise and Vanishing . Making Bruna a whooping 53/54. Completely owned my opponents and got my life to 248. What an awesome match.
Something I noticed was that I didnt get much creatures out at all. I only had [Mirror-Mad Phantasm out. Im thinking need more creatures would be good and I was thinking I need some beaters in there too. What you guys think?
Check out the Primer here there may be some expensive cards in the lists but there are some good budget options. Also I made this list a month ago for a budget challenge that you may find interesting since the deck had to be under $30 value
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Well Voltron decks tend to be relatively light on other creatures as they rely on the general to kill the opponent, so not seeing many of your creatures is not too surprising, especially considering you only have 17 of them, including the general. That means that on average 1 in 6 cards you see will be a creature (give or take a little). Now, this reliance on your general can become an issue especially if said general gets tucked, so trying to come up with a backup wincon is desirable. Currently, for your deck that means probably arming up Daxos, the Hero or the Auramancer. Of course, in that scenario you now have to come up with mana to pay for these enchantments, which could be a little sketchy.
However, since you mentioned the pillowfort archetype, there are a couple of potential alternate victory conditions you can put in the deck, with the idea that the pillowfort can protect you until you can effectively utilize them. I'm going to try and avoid mentioning cards over $10 dollars in these suggestions but may suggest some as your budget for this deck improves. First of all, adding a Luminarch Ascension and a Propaganda would be helpful. The combination of pillowfort enchantments will help you hold out long enough to get Luminarch Ascension online, after which you can attack with an angel swarm. Adding a Plea for Guidance to you deck will also give you the ability to tutor for the enchantments you need. There are other tutors such as Enlightened Tutor and Idyllic Tutor but they are slightly more expensive moneywise being about $13 and $17 each. You may also wish to consider Silent Arbiter for this deck, as your voltron approach only requires one attacker to be successful and your opponents will probably need more. A Sigil of the Empty Throne may also be something to consider for this deck as an alternate win condition.
You should also consider rotating out a number of your creatures for more general purpose utility creatures. Solemn Simulacrum, Phantasmal Image, Phyrexian Metamorph and Mulldrifter are all good general purpose creatures that could prove useful. Creatures you will probably want to get rid of are the Archetype, the medic, the hoplite, the echo mage, and the phantasm. They just do not really support your primary victory condition that well. You will probably also want to look into some better mana acceleration in the future and some more mana rocks such as Chromatic Lantern and Gilded Lotus. Being able to play your general before other players are well positioned to stop it is important. I would also recommend picking up a Cavern of Souls and a High Market at some point, neither are too tremendously expensive and having some counterspell protection for Bruna and a sac outlet to protect from tuck effects will come in handy.
I hope you found some part of my lengthy response helpful to you.
I will keep Mirror-Mad Phantasm. Because of the awesome self mill effect. It worked for my game against my friends. It was awesome seeing a whole bunch of Auras in the graveyard.
Thanks englishboi and ihokert for the ideas. I do have Ghostly Prison instead of Propaganda. Pretty much the same thing.
I dont know how to put these in and take what out. Um.. I also think I need to add in 3 more mana. Im working on the land cards now. Any suggesstions on improving after some of these cards are added in.
Are there any cards that I should consider putting into this deck? The idea is make it sort of a pillowfort until I get Bruna out. I'm still considering putting in the following cards Return to Dust and Oblivion Ring. I just don't know what to take out. I'm also considering taking out Sun Titan out too. Any other suggestions.
Platinum Emperion might also be worth checking out although you're still vulnerable to Commander Damage.
Norn's Annex is great. Forces your opponents to pay the cost with W or bleed themselves if they aren't running white.
Even though you already have Ghostly Prison, I would still find room for Propaganda. In a singleton format like EDH, redundancy is almost always welcomed.
It's okay, my Voltron build Bruna EDH deck also has only 6 creatures and lots of control and draw elements to totally support my general's one-shot kill. Anyway, I'd recommend Pariah in the Aura suite; works well when protecting yourself from infinite damage effects; totally busted with Indestructibility. Also if you're looking to use other creatures aside from Bruna herself, Replenish and Retether will work for you since you're a looter-build deck anyway.
I've found out that 37 lands is a ton. I draw too many and I have a lot of ramp too. I'm thinking of taking three lands away and adding more creatures.
Here's cards to consider:Karmic Justice Blazing Archon
1x Aqueous Form
1x Auramancer's Guise
1x Battle Mastery
1x Celestial Mantle
1x Corrupted Conscience
1x Curiosity
1x Diplomatic Immunity
1x Detention Sphere
1x Eel Umbra
1x Eldrazi Conscription
1x Ethereal Armor
1x Favorable Destiny
1x Ghostly Prison
1x Gift of Immortality
1x Spirit Mantle
1x Indestructibility
1x Infiltrator's Magemark
1x Luminarch Ascension
1x Rhystic Study
1x Sphere of Safety
1x Steel of the Godhead
1x Vanishing
1x Vow of Duty
1x Vow of Flight
1x Day of Judgment
1x Divine Reckoning
1x Three Dreams
1x Wrath of God
1x AJani's Chosen
1x Auramancer
1x Umbra Mystic
1x Bruna, Light of Alabaster
1x Burnished Hart
1x Consecrated Sphinx
1x Daxos of Meletis
1x Frost Titan
1x Silent Arbiter
1x Wall of Denial
1x Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
1x Hero of Iroas
1x Kor Spiritdancer
1x Mesa Enchantress
1x Mirror-Mad Phantasm
1x Sovereigns of Lost Alara
1x Sun Titan
1x Wall of Omens
1x Azorius Signet
1x Darksteel Ingot
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Sol Ring
1x Swiftfoot Boots
1x Wayfarer's Bauble
17x Island
17x Plains
1x Arcane Denial
1x Condemn
1x Counterspell
1x Cyclonic Rift
1x Disenchant
1x Dissipate
1x Dissolve
1x Frantic Search
1x Mana Short
1x Path to Exile
1x Render Silent
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Thirst for Knowledge
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18 June 2014
Ok, just played this deck against some friends. I won it, I think it was a fluke lol. I managed to get my Bruna, Light of Alabaster out on turn 7. Then I was able to get this beast out Mirror-Mad Phantasm . I milled myself out to 27 cards left in library. I was able to get this following enchantments thanks to Bruna's ability. So bruna got equipped with Celestial Mantle , Eldrazi Conscription , Curiosity , Favorable Destiny , Ethereal Armor , Battle Mastery , Vow of Flight , Aurmancer's Guise and Vanishing . Making Bruna a whooping 53/54. Completely owned my opponents and got my life to 248. What an awesome match.
Something I noticed was that I didnt get much creatures out at all. I only had [Mirror-Mad Phantasm out. Im thinking need more creatures would be good and I was thinking I need some beaters in there too. What you guys think?
EDH
Roon of the Hidden Realms UGW
Modern
UW TronUW
Blocks Constructed
KamigawaU|Return to RavnicaUW|TherosUWG
I like playing defensively. can someone tell me hoe to make my creatures more I guess "Pillow Fort"? Im thinking of having my creatures go pillow fort until I pull of bruna. Wall of Denial would be good for pillow forting. I do like the idea of using Mirror-Sigil Sergeant.
EDH
Roon of the Hidden Realms UGW
Modern
UW TronUW
Blocks Constructed
KamigawaU|Return to RavnicaUW|TherosUWG
Something I noticed was that I didnt get much creatures out at all. I only had [Mirror-Mad Phantasm out. Im thinking need more creatures would be good and I was thinking I need some beaters in there too. What you guys think?
EDH
Roon of the Hidden Realms UGW
Modern
UW TronUW
Blocks Constructed
KamigawaU|Return to RavnicaUW|TherosUWG
EDH
Roon of the Hidden Realms UGW
Modern
UW TronUW
Blocks Constructed
KamigawaU|Return to RavnicaUW|TherosUWG
Thraximundar Control voltron
Darien, King of Dudes The swarm
Karador, Ghost ChieftainJunk graveyard
Erebos, God of the DeadMy BIG BLACK.......deck
Zedruu the kindhearted My take on Pristaxcontrombmodruu!
Roon of the Hidden Realm Bounce house
However, since you mentioned the pillowfort archetype, there are a couple of potential alternate victory conditions you can put in the deck, with the idea that the pillowfort can protect you until you can effectively utilize them. I'm going to try and avoid mentioning cards over $10 dollars in these suggestions but may suggest some as your budget for this deck improves. First of all, adding a Luminarch Ascension and a Propaganda would be helpful. The combination of pillowfort enchantments will help you hold out long enough to get Luminarch Ascension online, after which you can attack with an angel swarm. Adding a Plea for Guidance to you deck will also give you the ability to tutor for the enchantments you need. There are other tutors such as Enlightened Tutor and Idyllic Tutor but they are slightly more expensive moneywise being about $13 and $17 each. You may also wish to consider Silent Arbiter for this deck, as your voltron approach only requires one attacker to be successful and your opponents will probably need more. A Sigil of the Empty Throne may also be something to consider for this deck as an alternate win condition.
You should also consider rotating out a number of your creatures for more general purpose utility creatures. Solemn Simulacrum, Phantasmal Image, Phyrexian Metamorph and Mulldrifter are all good general purpose creatures that could prove useful. Creatures you will probably want to get rid of are the Archetype, the medic, the hoplite, the echo mage, and the phantasm. They just do not really support your primary victory condition that well. You will probably also want to look into some better mana acceleration in the future and some more mana rocks such as Chromatic Lantern and Gilded Lotus. Being able to play your general before other players are well positioned to stop it is important. I would also recommend picking up a Cavern of Souls and a High Market at some point, neither are too tremendously expensive and having some counterspell protection for Bruna and a sac outlet to protect from tuck effects will come in handy.
I hope you found some part of my lengthy response helpful to you.
Ok, first things first. Thanks for the wonderful Suggestions so far.
Things I need to take out:
-Echo Mage
-Frontline Medic
-Curiosity
-Archetype of Imagination
- Holy Mantle for +Spirit Mantle
I will keep Mirror-Mad Phantasm. Because of the awesome self mill effect. It worked for my game against my friends. It was awesome seeing a whole bunch of Auras in the graveyard.
Thanks englishboi and ihokert for the ideas. I do have Ghostly Prison instead of Propaganda. Pretty much the same thing.
Cards I'm considering:
Ring of oblivion
Detention Sphere
Ajani's Chosen
Alexi's Cloak
Wall of Denial
Umbra Mystic
Luminarch Ascension
Silent Arbiter
Frost Titan
Return to Dust
I dont know how to put these in and take what out. Um.. I also think I need to add in 3 more mana. Im working on the land cards now. Any suggesstions on improving after some of these cards are added in.
EDH
Roon of the Hidden Realms UGW
Modern
UW TronUW
Blocks Constructed
KamigawaU|Return to RavnicaUW|TherosUWG
EDH
Roon of the Hidden Realms UGW
Modern
UW TronUW
Blocks Constructed
KamigawaU|Return to RavnicaUW|TherosUWG
1x Auramancer
1x Burnished Hart
1x Consecrated Sphinx
1x Daxos of Meletis
1x Frost Titan
1x Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
1x Hero of Iroas
1x Kor Spiritdancer
1x Mesa Enchantress
1x Mirror-Mad Phantasm
1x Silent Arbiter
1x Sovereigns of Lost Alara
1x Sun Titan
1x Umbra Mystic
1x Wall of Denial
1x Wall of Omens
1x Alexi's Cloak
1x Aqueous Form
1x Auramancer's Guise
1x Battle Mastery
1x Celestial Mantle
1x Corrupted Conscience
1x Detention Sphere
1x Diplomatic Immunity
1x Eel Umbra
1x Eldrazi Conscription
1x Ethereal Armor
1x Favorable Destiny
1x Ghostly Prison
1x Gift of Immortality
1x Indestructibility
1x Luminarch Ascension
1x Rhystic Study
1x Sphere of Safety
1x Spirit Mantle
1x Steel of the Godhead
1x Vanishing
1x Vow of Duty
1x Vow of Flight
1x Day of Judgment
1x Divine Reckoning
1x Three Dreams
1x Wrath of God
1x Arcane Denial
1x Condemn
1x Counterspell
1x Cyclonic Rift
1x Disenchant
1x Dissipate
1x Dissolve
1x Frantic Search
1x Mana Short
1x Path to Exile
1x Render Silent
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Thirst for Knowledge
1x Armillary Sphere
1x Azorius Signet
1x Darksteel Ingot
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Sol Ring
1x Swiftfoot Boots
1x Wayfarer's Bauble
17x Plains
So this is what I did, I took out the following:
- Archetype of Imagination
- Battlewise Hoplite
- Curiosity
- Echo Mage
- Hindering Light
- Infiltrator's Magemark
- Holy Mantle
And this is what I put in:
Luminarch Ascension
Alexi's Cloak
Spirit Mantle
Ajani's Chosen
Frost Titan
Silent Arbiter
Umbra Mystic
Wall of Denial
Are there any cards that I should consider putting into this deck? The idea is make it sort of a pillowfort until I get Bruna out. I'm still considering putting in the following cards Return to Dust and Oblivion Ring. I just don't know what to take out. I'm also considering taking out Sun Titan out too. Any other suggestions.
EDH
Roon of the Hidden Realms UGW
Modern
UW TronUW
Blocks Constructed
KamigawaU|Return to RavnicaUW|TherosUWG
Blazing Archon just flat out says no to being attacked.
Platinum Emperion might also be worth checking out although you're still vulnerable to Commander Damage.
Norn's Annex is great. Forces your opponents to pay the cost with W or bleed themselves if they aren't running white.
Even though you already have Ghostly Prison, I would still find room for Propaganda. In a singleton format like EDH, redundancy is almost always welcomed.
Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker and Isperia, Supreme Judge seem good as rattlesnakes. If they really want to swing at you, they either lose creatures or feed you cards.
Karmic Justice will make opponents think twice about blowing up your defenses or at least jump through a few hoops to minimize the things they lose.
Sun Titan is too valuable to take out IMO. He can effectively become a second copy of Bruna by being able to recycle Auras among other things.
Totem-Guide Hartebeest curves nicely into Bruna. There's also the upcoming Heliod's Pilgrim from M15 that's a cheaper second copy for redundancy.
And, if you're going to run Silent Arbiter, why not also run Sublime Archangel?
If you run Enchanted Evening with Aura Thief, no one will ever attack you, this also works well with Sphere of Safety.
WU Bruna UW | R Kiki-Jiki R | RB New Chainer BR
Legacy - Burn | Pauper - Reanimator | Aristocrats | Burn
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Here's cards to consider:Karmic Justice Blazing Archon
Would walls be good here? more control?
1x Alexi's Cloak
1x Aqueous Form
1x Auramancer's Guise
1x Battle Mastery
1x Celestial Mantle
1x Corrupted Conscience
1x Detention Sphere
1x Diplomatic Immunity
1x Eel Umbra
1x Eldrazi Conscription
1x Ethereal Armor
1x Ghostly Prison
1x Gift of Immortality
1x Indestructibility
1x Luminarch Ascension
1x Oblivion Ring
1x Rhystic Study
1x Sphere of Safety
1x Spirit Mantle
1x Steel of the Godhead
1x Vanishing
Artifact (6)
1x Armillary Sphere
1x Azorius Signet
1x Darksteel Ingot
1x Sol Ring
1x Swiftfoot Boots
1x Wayfarer's Bauble
1x Day of Judgment
1x Divine Reckoning
1x Three Dreams
1x Wrath of God
Creature (18)
1x Ajani's Chosen
1x Auramancer
1x Burnished Hart
1x Cephalid Constable
1x Consecrated Sphinx
1x Daxos of Meletis
1x Eidolon of Countless Battles
1x Frost Titan
1x Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
1x Hero of Iroas
1x Kor Spiritdancer
1x Mesa Enchantress
1x Mirror-Mad Phantasm
1x Nomad Mythmaker
1x Rayne, Academy Chancellor
1x Silent Arbiter
1x Sovereigns of Lost Alara
1x Umbra Mystic
Instant (13)
1x Arcane Denial
1x Condemn
1x Counterspell
1x Cyclonic Rift
1x Disenchant
1x Dissipate
1x Dissolve
1x Hinder
1x Mana Short
1x Path to Exile
1x Render Silent
1x Return to Dust
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Command Tower
1x Evolving Wilds
1x Hallowed Fountain
16x Island
1x Opal Palace
15x Plains
1x Temple of the False God
1x Terramorphic Expanse
EDH
Roon of the Hidden Realms UGW
Modern
UW TronUW
Blocks Constructed
KamigawaU|Return to RavnicaUW|TherosUWG