I've had this deck for quite some time now, and I'm beginning to really like how it's coming together. Some inspiration taken from ISBPathfinder's Mirko Vosk build, I came across it after my first rough draft and noticed it was well put together. The strategy is the same as his, mill with reanimation, with equal amount of wins coming from mill as from beats. This is by far my favorite deck to play in any format: my two favorite colors, black and blue; my two favorite actions, reanimation and lots of card draw; and my favorite two ways to win, decking somebody out and killing them with their own stuff. Enjoy, and please comment. Criticism, praise, suggestions, and comments are all welcome.
Btw, coolest thing I've done with this deck: swing lethal with Consuming Aberration, sac to Altar of Dementia to deck somebody, cast Animate Dead on it, cast Necromancy on some poor Kemba player's Sun Titan, bring back my Phantasmal Image (not in current list) copying my Aberration, sac both copies to Altar, game. 5-way FFA, all kills awarded to yours truly. Very proud of that.
Forgive my terrible formatting, and my even worse mana fixing:
I like where your list is going (no real surprise as its based off of mine ). There are a few budget looking cards that could use some improvement but I am assuming they are what they are due to budget reasons. Obviously you have access to where my list was so it doesn't do much for me to suggest cards. It looks like it is coming along nicely though.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
Decklists like this are going to force me to make an EDH mill deck.
Are Crumbling Sanctuary and Dreamborn Muse worth considering? They are symmetrical, and the Sanctuary exiles rather than mills, but still...
Leyline of the Void plays mean with Helm of Obedience, allowing you to mill someone out with one activation of the Helm. With your tutors (where is Fabricate?), you can pull this off semireliably.
Cheers!
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@ISBPathfinder: Yeah, there are a couple cuts I made for reasons that I only had one (bribery, glen elendra archmage), and they're currently in my cube. I keep meaning to get another, but I like how it runs so much that I wouldn't know what to take out any suggestions? Btw, I took out Force just because I like paying mana for my counterspells
@krichaiushii: Helmline insta-kills one person only, which is my least favorite type of combo because in addition to being boring IMO, you instantly force every other player to kill you before your next turn if at all possible, and this deck doesn't have the protection for that. Plus, it's absolutely useless outside the combo, I'd never want to drop it for free.
Crumbling Sanctuary could be cool, but I think I'd sooner run Mindcrank because of the CMC, the graveyard, and the fact that it doesn't prevent the damage but augments it.
Pact of Negation is still quite good. I was only running force over it because this was only two colors making it a little more manageable to have that spare blue card in hand I didnt mind exiling. I think in a lot of cases force and pact are sort of interchangeable. I was also running the flash enablers (orrery / leyline / winding canyons) which made force a little stronger as it had the option of being payed for right then and there.
Evil Twin should probably be Phyrexian Metamorph as well. I think the twin is cool but not as powerful generally speaking. Its possible you are using it as a repeat commander kill option but even then I dont think its as powerful as metamorph.
Sands of Delirium also feels a little weak. I would suggest replacing it with a Mind Grind which is likely to hit a lot harder to everyone rather than one person. Its a one time effect but I think its one of the strongest multiplayer mill outlets available.
EDIT: I would also consider adding more graveyard hate to your list. You dont have a lot of options for it but with milling you should probably be prepaired as well to hit issues that arise. Nihil Spellbomb is another good option to consider.
I like Sands of Delirium because I can keep mana up and use it on whoever EOT. It is on a pretty low power level though, so I may switch it for, say, Liliana Vess. Any suggestions?
I also made a few changes today, see what you think. I liked Dreamborn Muse pretty well, so she's in.
You might try out Phenax, God of Deception in your 99. I never got around to testing it in my list as it wasn't out yet when I was playing my list. It is also possible to perhaps try Keening Stone in your list in place of the Sands of Delirium. The stone is super mana intensive to drop and use but considering how lightly the Sands really hits I think paying 5 mana to activate for the power it gives is far more reasonable. I passed on the stone because dropping it and using it in the same turn requires all sorts of crazy amounts of mana that seemed improbable to me. Still, I feel like it would be more viable than the sands.
I was also sort of on and off testing some time magic like Time Warp. These effects can turn into more activations from your commander. Its also possible to consider some things like Fireshrieker assuming you are hitting with Mirko Vosk. There is a lot of room to improve Mirko triggers assuming you are reliably hitting his. Mirko was hit and miss as to when he would work for me though to be honest which is why I didn't rely too much on his triggers.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
Btw, coolest thing I've done with this deck: swing lethal with Consuming Aberration, sac to Altar of Dementia to deck somebody, cast Animate Dead on it, cast Necromancy on some poor Kemba player's Sun Titan, bring back my Phantasmal Image (not in current list) copying my Aberration, sac both copies to Altar, game. 5-way FFA, all kills awarded to yours truly. Very proud of that.
Forgive my terrible formatting, and my even worse mana fixing:
9 Swamp
11 Island
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Academy Ruins
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Cephalid Coliseum
1 Darkslick Shores
1 Drowned Catacomb
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Rogue's Passage
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
1 Sunken Ruins
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Temple of Deceit
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Watery Grave
Kind of land:
1 Sol Ring
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
2 Everflowing Chalice
2 Dimir Signet
3 Darksteel Ingot
4 Thran Dynamo
5 Gilded Lotus
0 Pact of Negation
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Rapid Hybridization
2 Gilded Drake
2 Doom Blade
2 Shriekmaw
3 Forbid
3 Oblivion Stone
4 Damnation
4 Evil Twin
4 Whispering Madness
5 Kagemaro, First to Suffer
6 Life's Finale
6 Duplicant
7 Cyclonic Rift
7 Karn Liberated
Card Advantage:
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Visions of Beyond
2 Demonic Tutor
3 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Necropotence
3 Underworld Connections
4 Fact or Fiction
5 Bloodgift Demon
5 Increasing Ambition
5 Magus of the Jar
6 Consecrated Sphinx
7 Rune-Scarred Demon
10 Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
1 Reanimate
2 Animate Dead
3 Coffin Queen
3 Necromancy
5 Beacon of Unrest
5 Extract from Darkness
5 Puppeteer Clique
6 Geth, Lord of the Vault
7 Sepulchral Primordial
Mill:
2 Altar of Dementia
2 Mesmeric Orb
3 Memory Erosion
3 Sands of Delirium
4 Dreamborn Muse
4 Helm of Obedience
5 Consuming Aberration
Miscellaneous Goodstuff/Tomfoolery:
2 Lightning Greaves
2 Swiftfoot Boots
3 Phyrexian Metamorph
3 Thada Adel, Acquisitor
4 Breathstealer's Crypt
4 Leyline of Anticipation
4 Solemn Simulacrum
4 Vedalken Orrery
1 Dreamborn Muse
1 Temple of Deceit
1 Reflecting Pool
1 Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
1 Extract from Darkness
1 Vedalken Orrery
1 Breathstealer's Crypt
1 Island
1 Nephalia Drownyard
1 Acquire
1 Sphinx of Uthuun
1 Tezzeret the Seeker
1 Oona, Queen of the Fae
1 Knowledge Exploitation
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Are Crumbling Sanctuary and Dreamborn Muse worth considering? They are symmetrical, and the Sanctuary exiles rather than mills, but still...
Leyline of the Void plays mean with Helm of Obedience, allowing you to mill someone out with one activation of the Helm. With your tutors (where is Fabricate?), you can pull this off semireliably.
Cheers!
Krichaiushii on PucaTrade.
@krichaiushii: Helmline insta-kills one person only, which is my least favorite type of combo because in addition to being boring IMO, you instantly force every other player to kill you before your next turn if at all possible, and this deck doesn't have the protection for that. Plus, it's absolutely useless outside the combo, I'd never want to drop it for free.
Crumbling Sanctuary could be cool, but I think I'd sooner run Mindcrank because of the CMC, the graveyard, and the fact that it doesn't prevent the damage but augments it.
Dreamborn Muse could be VERY good. I'll play test, probably in place of Memory Erosion.
Evil Twin should probably be Phyrexian Metamorph as well. I think the twin is cool but not as powerful generally speaking. Its possible you are using it as a repeat commander kill option but even then I dont think its as powerful as metamorph.
Sands of Delirium also feels a little weak. I would suggest replacing it with a Mind Grind which is likely to hit a lot harder to everyone rather than one person. Its a one time effect but I think its one of the strongest multiplayer mill outlets available.
EDIT: I would also consider adding more graveyard hate to your list. You dont have a lot of options for it but with milling you should probably be prepaired as well to hit issues that arise. Nihil Spellbomb is another good option to consider.
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I like Sands of Delirium because I can keep mana up and use it on whoever EOT. It is on a pretty low power level though, so I may switch it for, say, Liliana Vess. Any suggestions?
I also made a few changes today, see what you think. I liked Dreamborn Muse pretty well, so she's in.
I was also sort of on and off testing some time magic like Time Warp. These effects can turn into more activations from your commander. Its also possible to consider some things like Fireshrieker assuming you are hitting with Mirko Vosk. There is a lot of room to improve Mirko triggers assuming you are reliably hitting his. Mirko was hit and miss as to when he would work for me though to be honest which is why I didn't rely too much on his triggers.
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