When I saw Oloro spoiled for Commander 2013, I knew he'd be a cool general. He does everything I want: gaining life, drawing cards, being lazy etc. This deck is meant to capitalize on Oloro's lifegain as incremental advantage while drawing cards and stalling the game. This is a combo/control deck, much like Splinter Twin in modern that stalls the game until it wins with its combo. Without further ado: Oloro, Ageless Ascetic.
The multiple articles and decklists that got me started
Bigbearlyke for the suggestions
krichaiushii for telling me just how bad vivids are (they're really bad)
I'd love any feedback. I am on a budget, but any suggestion is welcome.
One of the issues might be ways to win.
I am working on procuring better mana rocks (Signets, Fellwar Stone)
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
-Condemn +Path to Exile
Condemn was seldom awesome in my meta, as tucking wasn't that relevant. At worst, it was trash. Path is a more consistent removal spell and giving people lands isn't a big deal (it can play politics too).
-Dawn to Dusk +Seal of Cleansing
-Nevinyyral's Disk +Rout
Dawn to Dusk wan't up to snuff. Seal handles the destruction half and can be recurred with Sun Titan. One Akroma's vengeance is enough for deck. Creature kills are welcome though. New art is sweet as well.
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
Astral Corncopia is pretty much trash. Signets are better, Chalice is better, Coalition Relic is better, Thran Dynamo is better, Gilded Lotus is better etc...
There seem to be a lot of choices that are made with budget/availability in mind so I'm not sure where to start. For now I'll just say that Darksteel Mutation and Condemn should be Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile.
I had a path in a casual deck. Condemn would be better there than here... easy switch. Just recommend whatever, and I see if I can get it. Will work on the rest of bigbearlyke's suggestions.
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
-Dawn to Dusk +Seal of Cleansing
Dawn to Dusk wan't up to snuff. Seal handles the destruction half and can be recurred with Sun Titan.
-Nevinyrral's Disk +Rout
One Akroma's vengeance is enough for deck. Creature kills are welcome though. New art is sweet as well.
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
It is better used with Vizkopa Guildmage. Cast Guildmage. Next turn activate Mage in response to Oloro's trigger. Cast D2D for X=5. In a 4 player game your opponents have now lost 42 life each. For 12 mana on that turn and 14 overall.
It is better used with Vizkopa Guildmage. Cast Guildmage. Next turn activate Mage in response to Oloro's trigger. Cast D2D for X=5. In a 4 player game your opponents have now lost 42 life each. For 12 mana on that turn and 14 overall.
Good point... Vizkopa is officially the best draft uncommon ever.
I'm thinking of adding a sacrifice package similar to yours. Phyrexian altar was too expensive, but there are other things to work with.
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
I'm not a fan of Vivid lands, New Benalia, or the Refuges. Entering tapped works against them; I'd rather run basics over them.
Torpor Orb, perhaps, if your Derevi opposition is full of ETB critters.
Spike Cannibal can be tech against certain Marath builds.
I like Cleansing in my Oloro deck, as another means to take advantage of a highish life total. The errata is neat, because you can pay to save any lands, not just your own.
Cheers!
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If in the area, check out Gamers N Geeks and Mini War Games in Mobile, Alabama and Underhill's Games in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio.
The fact that people can save lands is a little disheartening of for Cleansing, but it combos well enough so that it might be worth it. I'll consider Torpor Orb as well and test some additional basics. Thanks for the reply.
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
Made a ton of changes.
-I added more creatures for some more beats and to focus more on lifegain.
-I removed Thassa, as she was boring.
-I reomoved Exquisite Blood because the combo was unexciting and made the deck too repetitive.
- Spell Crumple is worse than dissipate due to the new tuck rule, darksteel mutation gets better (It's one of a select few now)
I am still looking for signets and better mana rocks.
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
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1 Command Tower
1 Transguild Promenade
1 Arcane Sanctum
1 Reflecting Pool
1 City of Brass
1 Halimar Depths
1 Jwar Island Refuge
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Godless Shrine
1 Temple of Enlightenment
1 Temple of Silence
1 Temple of Deceit
1 Temple of the False God
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Flood Plain
1 Polluted Delta
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Azorius Chancery
1 Orzhov Bascilica
3 Plains
6 Island
6 Swamp
Creatures
1 Vizkopa Guildmage
1 Burnished Hart
1 Rhox Faithmender
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Windborn Muse
1 Rhox Faithmender
1 Wall of Reverence
1 Sunscorch Regent
1 Bloodgift Demon
1 Divinity of Pride
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Sun Titan
1 Drogskol Reaver
1 Myojin of Night's Reach
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Ashen Rider
1 Sol Ring
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
1 Fellwar Stone
1 Dimir Signet
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Talisman of Progress
1 Chromatic Lantern
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Crawlspace
1 Well of Lost Dreams
1 Phyrexian Processor
1 Venser's Journal
Enchantment
1 Phyrexian Reclamation
1 Darksteel Mutation
1 Necropotence
1 Propaganda
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Karmic Justice
1 Greed
1 Erebos, God of the Dead
1 Boon Reflection
1 Sanguine Bond
1 Sphere of Safety
1 Future Sight
Instant
1 Path to Exile
1 Brainstorm
1 Counterspell
1 Remand
1 Impulse
1 Lim-Dul's Vault
1 Cyclonic Rift
1 Dissipate
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Utter End
1 Dismiss
1 Silence the Believers
1 Blessed Reincarnation
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Ashes to Ashes
1 Day of Judgment
1 Plea for Power
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Rout
1 Akroma's Vengeance
1 Decree of Pain
1 Debt to the Deathless
Planeswalker
1 Jace, Architect of Thought
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Orzhov Signet
Dimir Signet
Azorius Signet
Fellwar Stone
Rhystic Study
Dragonlord Silumgar
Azorius Keyrune
Pristine Talisman
3 Mayael the Anima
1 Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
2 Derevi
The multiple articles and decklists that got me started
Bigbearlyke for the suggestions
krichaiushii for telling me just how bad vivids are (they're really bad)
I'd love any feedback. I am on a budget, but any suggestion is welcome.
One of the issues might be ways to win.
I am working on procuring better mana rocks (Signets, Fellwar Stone)
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
-Condemn +Path to Exile
Condemn was seldom awesome in my meta, as tucking wasn't that relevant. At worst, it was trash. Path is a more consistent removal spell and giving people lands isn't a big deal (it can play politics too).
-Dawn to Dusk +Seal of Cleansing
-Nevinyyral's Disk +Rout
Dawn to Dusk wan't up to snuff. Seal handles the destruction half and can be recurred with Sun Titan. One Akroma's vengeance is enough for deck. Creature kills are welcome though. New art is sweet as well.
-Deep Analysis +Debt to the Deathless
I had enough draw. Debt does fun stuff with Sanguine Bond.
Swords to Plowshares
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
There seem to be a lot of choices that are made with budget/availability in mind so I'm not sure where to start. For now I'll just say that Darksteel Mutation and Condemn should be Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile.
EDH Decks:
WUBOloro, Combo ControlWUB
UBOona Reanimator ComboUB
BRGProssh, Eater of the Blue MageBRG
UBRGrixis StormUBR
Rebuilding Jenara (stealyourstuff.dec)
Pauper Deck:
UBInspired SirenUB
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
-Dawn to Dusk +Seal of Cleansing
Dawn to Dusk wan't up to snuff. Seal handles the destruction half and can be recurred with Sun Titan.
-Nevinyrral's Disk +Rout
One Akroma's vengeance is enough for deck. Creature kills are welcome though. New art is sweet as well.
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
I had enough draw. Debt does fun stuff with Sanguine Bond.
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
It is better used with Vizkopa Guildmage. Cast Guildmage. Next turn activate Mage in response to Oloro's trigger. Cast D2D for X=5. In a 4 player game your opponents have now lost 42 life each. For 12 mana on that turn and 14 overall.
EDH Decks:
WUBOloro, Combo ControlWUB
UBOona Reanimator ComboUB
BRGProssh, Eater of the Blue MageBRG
UBRGrixis StormUBR
Rebuilding Jenara (stealyourstuff.dec)
Pauper Deck:
UBInspired SirenUB
Good point... Vizkopa is officially the best draft uncommon ever.
I'm thinking of adding a sacrifice package similar to yours. Phyrexian altar was too expensive, but there are other things to work with.
1 Reivellark
1 Vish Kal Blood Arbiter
1 Ashnod's Altar
1 Altar of Dementia
1 Sword of the Meek
1 Muddle the Mixture
1 Shred Memory
1 Perplex
1 Fabricate
Any suggestions?
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
1 Astral Cornucopia
1 Fated Retribution
1 Wall of Denial
1 Witchbane Orb
1 Serra Avatar
1 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Myojin of Night's Reach
1 Impulse
1 Order of Succession
1 Memory Lapse
Took out some bad stuff, put in good stuff.
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
Torpor Orb, perhaps, if your Derevi opposition is full of ETB critters.
Spike Cannibal can be tech against certain Marath builds.
I like Cleansing in my Oloro deck, as another means to take advantage of a highish life total. The errata is neat, because you can pay to save any lands, not just your own.
Cheers!
Krichaiushii on PucaTrade.
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
-I added more creatures for some more beats and to focus more on lifegain.
-I removed Thassa, as she was boring.
-I reomoved Exquisite Blood because the combo was unexciting and made the deck too repetitive.
- Spell Crumple is worse than dissipate due to the new tuck rule, darksteel mutation gets better (It's one of a select few now)
I am still looking for signets and better mana rocks.
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
- bad mana rocks + good mana rocks
nuff said
-Evil Twin +Sunscorch Regent
-Archaemancer +Fellwar Stone
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender