I am really looking for a mono black deck, with high amounts of kill and the ability to control people's creatures to attack them with. There is some mill, but milling/decking is not the theme. Also this deck is designed to be played in MP, not a dueling deck.
I am going to also place in the deck list all the cards I have been considering and have access too. Please keep a budget in mind. I play black heavy, so I am willing purchase what I do not have. I do not have Damnation though and at 40 bucks I never will. I am working on getting at least a single Liliana of the Veil. This deck needs some thinning and probably a concrete focus.
If you are looking to steal creatures and attack, have you thought about using Chainer, Dementia Master as the commander? I think he would better suit the style you are going for than Kiku.
Kiku is very easy to cast, and doesnt suffer from the commander tax too badly. Unless you are using all the voltron/protection equipment for your other creatures, you could probably lose some of them in favor of a simple lightning greaves
Grave Betrayal: Steals any creature that you kill with Kiku. Nezumi Graverobber: GY hate, and eventual creature theft Phyrexian Reclamation: Only gets back your own creatures, but it’s still one of the most efficient recursion engines in black. Dawn of the Dead: Gives you another shot at the ETB triggers on your creatures and lets you crash in with them one more time. If you have a sac outlet, however, you can send them back to the graveyard instead of exiling them, allowing you to bring them back as many times as you please. Cabal Coffers: If you’re going to buy one expensive card for this deck, make it this one. Sadistic Hypnotist: Fill your opponents GY with creatures for you to steal Mind Slash: see above.
I would probably lose these guys in favor of creatures with a stronger effect: Slum Reaper - can help kill creatures than Kiku cant fleshbag Marauder - see above crypt ghast - you have nirkana revenant, why not? Gray merchant of Asphodel - insane in multiplayer. gaining 40+ life every time he ETB is normal Harvester of Souls - great card draw for all the murder that will be happening, and not a bad fighter himself
First look at those lands makes me think that a bunch of them could be cut for just plain old swamps. In EDH, the main advantage in limiting yourself to one color is that you don't need to rely on expensive or fragile mana bases. Tech Edge and Ghost Quarter could easily stay, in order to attack your opponent's greedy mana bases, but some of your other non-basics don't seem particularly useful. What are you getting back with Petrified Field? What are you naming for Cavern of Souls? What are you copying with Thespian's Stage? How often do you have a hand of >7 cards to make Reliquary tower worth not tapping for black mana? You are already playing Extra Planar Lens, so I would limit some of these other utility lands and sub in swamps.
Also, lets just throw out the obligatory reminder that Cabal Coffers is a thing and is pretty good in mono-black (makes Thespian's Stage more attractive as well)
Skybug, those are a touch voltron-ish. I know. I play against people that tend to hate off Commanders and Planeswalkers. I can count on my hand about how many times I've seen us get off a PW ultimate. So, FNM/Commander at the local Comic shop, I would probably feel it out and drop the equipments to Lightning Greaves and Sword of War and Peace.
I am looking at that now. I guess you get soo used to playing them, since they seem so powerful. I'll probably get a CC, in reality its not's Urborg $$$. It's pretty fair price wise.
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I am going to also place in the deck list all the cards I have been considering and have access too. Please keep a budget in mind. I play black heavy, so I am willing purchase what I do not have. I do not have Damnation though and at 40 bucks I never will.
I am working on getting at least a single Liliana of the Veil.This deck needs some thinning and probably a concrete focus.1 Kiku, Night's Flower
Planeswalkers
1 Sorin Markov
1 Liliana Vess
1 Liliana of the Dark Realms
1 Liliana of the Veil
Special Lands
1 Vault of Whispers
1 Thespian's Stage
1 Leechridden Swamp
1 Ebon Stronghold
1 Polluted Mire
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Everglades
1 Rogue's Passage
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Petrified Field
1 Mystifying Maze
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Haunted Fengraf
1 Piranha Marsh
1 Vesuva
Artifacts
1 Darksteel Plate
1 Mask of Avacyn
1 Venser's Journal
1 Whispersilk Cloak
1 Ring of Three Wishes
1 Grimoire of the Dead
1 Lashwrithe
1 Mimic Vat
1 Trepanation Blade
1 Ring of Xathrid
1 Extraplanar Lens
1 Sword of War and Peace
1 Mind Stone
1 Sol Ring
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Elbrus, the Binding Blade
1 Reiver Demon
1 It that Betrays
1 Avatar of Woe
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Kalitas, Bloodchief of Ghet
1 Sepulchral Primordial
1 Nirkana Revenant
1 Visara the Dreadful
1 Archetype of Finality
1 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
1 Magus of the Coffers
1 Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
1 Sangromancer
1 Maralen of the Mornsong
1 Royal Assassin
1 Coffin Queen
1 Blood Artist
1 Pain Seer
1 Onyx Mage
1 Thrill-Kill Assassin
Enchantments
1 Enslave
1 Exquisite Blood
1 Painful Quandary
1 Grave Pact
1 Diabolic Servitude
1 Necropotence
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Underworld Connections
1 Animate Dead
1 Bloodchief Ascension
1 Rise of the Dark Realms
1 Life's Finale
1 Diabolic Revelation
1 Dread Return
1 Death Cloud
1 Buried Alive
1 Exhume
1 Smallpox
1 Exsanguinate
1 Sickening Dreams
1 Drain Life
1 Reanimate
1 Despise
1 Killing Wave
Instants
1 Grim Return
1 Hero's Downfall
1 Entomb
1 Dismember
1 Killing Glare
Mucho Junko, the Extras!
1 Steel Hellkite
1 Platinum Angel
1 Guardian of the Ages
1 Shrike Harpy
1 King Macar, the Gold-Cursed
1 Butcher of Malakir
1 Corpse Traders
1 Sanguine Praetor
1 Fallen Angel
1 Skinrender
1 Demonic Taskmaster
1 Disciple of Bolas
1 Disciple of Griselbrand
1 Agent of the Fates
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Hellcarver Demon
Artifacts
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Grindclock
1 Mindcrank
1 Witchbane Orb
1 Siren Song Lyre
1 Gorgon's Head
1 Conjurer's Closet
1 Ornate Kanzashi
1 Icy Manipulator
1 Lotus Petal
1 Thunderstaff
1 Echo Chamber
1 Worn Powerstone
1 Grappling Hook
1 Hedron Matrix
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Skeleton Shard
1 Phyrexian Processor
1 Insidious Dreams
1 Induce Despair
1 Necrobite
1 Tribute to Hunger
1 Geth's Verdict
1 Ultimate Price
1 Tragic Slip
Enchantment
1 Artificer's Hex
1 Curse of Wizardry
1 Blood Reckoning
1 Greed
1 Unspeakable Symbol
1 Liliana's Caress
1 Necrotic Plague
1 Contaminated Ground
1 Measure of Wickedness
1 Eldrazi Conscription
Sorceries
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Sadistic Sacrament
1 Last Rites
1 Drown in Sorrow
1 Mind Rot
1 Consume Spirit
1 Disentomb
1 Barter in Blood
1 Gruesome Encore
1 Liturgy of Blood
1 Distress
1 Deathmark
1 Flesh Allergy
1 Ichor Explosion
1 Postmortem Lunge
1 Worst Fears
Thanks for your help.
Kiku is very easy to cast, and doesnt suffer from the commander tax too badly. Unless you are using all the voltron/protection equipment for your other creatures, you could probably lose some of them in favor of a simple lightning greaves
Grave Betrayal: Steals any creature that you kill with Kiku.
Nezumi Graverobber: GY hate, and eventual creature theft
Phyrexian Reclamation: Only gets back your own creatures, but it’s still one of the most efficient recursion engines in black.
Dawn of the Dead: Gives you another shot at the ETB triggers on your creatures and lets you crash in with them one more time. If you have a sac outlet, however, you can send them back to the graveyard instead of exiling them, allowing you to bring them back as many times as you please.
Cabal Coffers: If you’re going to buy one expensive card for this deck, make it this one.
Sadistic Hypnotist: Fill your opponents GY with creatures for you to steal
Mind Slash: see above.
Blood Artist
Pain Seer
Onyx Mage
Thrill-Kill Assassin
I would probably lose these guys in favor of creatures with a stronger effect:
Slum Reaper - can help kill creatures than Kiku cant
fleshbag Marauder - see above
crypt ghast - you have nirkana revenant, why not?
Gray merchant of Asphodel - insane in multiplayer. gaining 40+ life every time he ETB is normal
Harvester of Souls - great card draw for all the murder that will be happening, and not a bad fighter himself
Also, lets just throw out the obligatory reminder that Cabal Coffers is a thing and is pretty good in mono-black (makes Thespian's Stage more attractive as well)
Also, I should add I traded an extra Liliana of the Dark Realms for Vesuva. Need to add that.