The deck is about equipment aggro with a Sunforger engine build in. I changed it up a bit, I tried making it completely about Sunforger, but that made it a bit boring. Now I am back at having a bit more creatures and a bit more equipment to choose from. And even then Sunforger is still a great way to finish the game with. I only play one counterspell, I might need one more to really shut a player out.
Mistveil plains is still in, but I must admit that I have never gotten it to work and I have been playing this deck for some time already. (And never really mist it either, as soon as Sunforger is online, this usually means it will be over very soon.)
Played some games yesterday, and the deck runs pretty good, it´s really challenging to play, but consistent in power and not helpless if it doesn´t win at the start.
I see what you are getting at, to fetch the mistveil plains.
Its actually a good suggestion, as I didn't think of the fetches that way! I guess if I got some cash left, or if reprinted ;), this will be the first deck to get them.
Any more suggestions from anyone? I decided to give the mirran crusader another go, as it carries a sword really well? I have been thinking of prophetic flamespeaker as well, but I really dislike the chance of exiling my sunforger for example...
Have you tried Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest, it seems like he's be pretty good with sunforger in play. Also Fireshrieker seems like it wants to be in here too. You have so many combat damage triggers that I'd take every chance I get to increase the amount of double strike in the deck.
Edit- I Just looked at your maybeboard and saw you have fireshrieker already listed.
Other than that I'd suggest some faster mana Rocks, which are admittedly dependant on your budget Stuff like Mox Opal, Mox Diamond, and maybe Chrome Mox and Paradise Mantle (searchable with steelshapers gift).
Also Hellkite Charger could be fun, I know the extra combat step it grants isn't free, but it does have the possibility of going infinite if paired with Sword of Feast and Famine.
Shu Yun, the silent Tempest is actually a great suggestion! Somehow I mist how perfect it would be for this deck! Maybe in exchange for arashin foremost? Or do you have another suggestion?
Fireshrieker is indeed in my maybe list, since I had this deck I collected a lot of cards that seem great in the deck. I guess I left it out because it seemed a bit bland? Especially compared to the swords. But you might be right that it deserves a place.
I don't know about the moxes, you think they are worth it? I cannot really count on mox opal being active. And the other two cost me a precious card.. What do you think?
Oops, edited my comment before refreshing the page. Check above for another suggestion concerning Hellkite Charger.
The Mox Opal is great in certain circumstances and the other two depend on how quickly you want to be able to cast Ruhan, if you are aiming for midrange then you don't really need them, if you want to be an aggro deck then try them out with proxies and see . There are realativly easy ways of upping your artifact count like Ancient Den, Seat of the Synod, and Great Furnace.
I think the biggest negative of Arashin isn't that it only cares about warriors, it's that you must attack with it to grant Ruhan double strike, which means that if all of your opponents have a big enough creatures and you don't have the resources to protect Arashin as well as Ruhan, Arashin will only grant Ruhan double strike twice before dying.
Obtained relic seeker and hallowed moonlight for the maybe board from origins, not sure if I want to play them yet, relic seeker might be a bit unreliable, hallowed moonlight could be a awesome target for sunforger, but is otherwise not always good te have in hand, it cylces though..
I'd play relic seeker regardless. Any chance at an early game tutor effect is better than starting the game with a 6 or 7 drop in your hand. I'd also add Sword of the Animist.
Good point on the relic seeker. I will think about taking something out. sword of the animist looks good, but the biggest problem is that its ramp comes to late for ruhan, and if Ruhan is already out I want other equipment.
Recently changed the deck from Ruhan of the Fomori to Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder and Kraum, Ludevic's Opus.
As should be noticed, Ruhan has a small downside. Now I actually have 2 good creatures to equip in the command zone.
The deck is about equipment aggro with a Sunforger engine build in. I changed it up a bit, I tried making it completely about Sunforger, but that made it a bit boring. Now I am back at having a bit more creatures and a bit more equipment to choose from. And even then Sunforger is still a great way to finish the game with. I only play one counterspell, I might need one more to really shut a player out.
Mistveil plains is still in, but I must admit that I have never gotten it to work and I have been playing this deck for some time already. (And never really mist it either, as soon as Sunforger is online, this usually means it will be over very soon.)
4 Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder
5 Kraum, Ludevic's Opus
Creatures (24)
1 Weathered Wayfarer
2 Knight of the White Orchid
2 Leonin Shikari
2 Puresteel Paladin
2 Stoneforge Mystic
3 Soltari Visionary
3 Thada Adel, Acquisitor
3 Daxos of Meletis
4 Indomitable Archangel
4 Leonin Abunas
4 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Soltari Guerrillas
5 Stonehewer Giant
5 Dragonlord Ojutai
6 Wurmcoil Engine
6 Sun Titan
6 Frost Titan
6 Godo, Bandit Warlord
6 Inferno Titan
6 Aurelia, the Warleader
6 Medomai the Ageless
7 Balefire Dragon
7 Drogskol Reaver
7 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Artifacts (17)
1 Masterwork of Ingenuity
1 Sol Ring
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
2 Azorius Signet
2 Boros Signet
2 Conqueror’s Flail
2 Fellwar Stone
2 Izzet Signet
2 Lightning Greaves
2 Swiftfoot Boots
2 Talisman of Progress
3 Sunforger
3 Sword of Feast and Famine
3 Sword of Fire and Ice
3 Sword of Light and Shadow
3 Sword of Vengeance
Enchantments (2)
1 Land Tax
1 Sigarda's Aid
Instants (13)
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
2 Cyclonic Rift
2 Boros Charm
3 Oblation
3 Chaos Warp
3 Render Silent
4 Comeuppance
4 Return to Dust
4 Grab the Reins
4 Wild Ricochet
4 Steam Augury
Sorceries (5)
1 Steelshaper's Gift
2 Open the Armory
4 Supreme Verdict
5 Tragic Arrogance
6 Austere Command
Lands (37)
2 Islands
5 Plains
3 Mountain
1 Adarkar Wastes
1 Battlefield Forge
1 Cascade Bluffs
1 Clifftop Retreat
1 Command Tower
1 Exotic Orchard
1 Flooded Strand
1 Glacial Fortress
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Mystic Gate
1 Mystic Monastery
1 Rugged Prairie
1 Sacred Foundry
1 Shivan Reef
1 Steam Vents
1 Sulfur Falls
1 Temple of Enlightenment
1 Temple of Epiphany
1 Temple of Triumph
1 Minamo, School at Water's Edge
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep
1 Tolaria West
1 Academy Ruins
1 Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
1 Temple of the False God
Wants:
Scalding Tarn
Arid Mesa
Attacking creatures:
Equipments:
Equipment Synergy:
Sunforger Package:
Unblockable/Double strike:
Draw:
Sweepers:
Ramp:
Lands:
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Surprisingly good: Daxos of meletis, thada adel, aqcuisitor and Sunhome, fortress of the legion
Dissapointing: Mirran crusader and maybe argivian find, but still that's fetchable with sunforger, and sometimes I might be able to get sunforger back with it.
I might replase mirran crusader with soltari visionary
Some other options I am considering:
orim's chant
roque's passage
soltari guerilla's
final fortune
exotic orchard
leonin shikari
Getting sunforger online is awesome and not to hard, the mistveil plains engine is a lot harder though.
Any suggestions from anyone?!
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Woops- I see you play it already...
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Its actually a good suggestion, as I didn't think of the fetches that way! I guess if I got some cash left, or if reprinted ;), this will be the first deck to get them.
Any more suggestions from anyone? I decided to give the mirran crusader another go, as it carries a sword really well? I have been thinking of prophetic flamespeaker as well, but I really dislike the chance of exiling my sunforger for example...
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Edit- I Just looked at your maybeboard and saw you have fireshrieker already listed.
Other than that I'd suggest some faster mana Rocks, which are admittedly dependant on your budget Stuff like Mox Opal, Mox Diamond, and maybe Chrome Mox and Paradise Mantle (searchable with steelshapers gift).
Also Hellkite Charger could be fun, I know the extra combat step it grants isn't free, but it does have the possibility of going infinite if paired with Sword of Feast and Famine.
Shu Yun, the silent Tempest is actually a great suggestion! Somehow I mist how perfect it would be for this deck! Maybe in exchange for arashin foremost? Or do you have another suggestion?
Fireshrieker is indeed in my maybe list, since I had this deck I collected a lot of cards that seem great in the deck. I guess I left it out because it seemed a bit bland? Especially compared to the swords. But you might be right that it deserves a place.
I don't know about the moxes, you think they are worth it? I cannot really count on mox opal being active. And the other two cost me a precious card.. What do you think?
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The Mox Opal is great in certain circumstances and the other two depend on how quickly you want to be able to cast Ruhan, if you are aiming for midrange then you don't really need them, if you want to be an aggro deck then try them out with proxies and see . There are realativly easy ways of upping your artifact count like Ancient Den, Seat of the Synod, and Great Furnace.
I guess land tax is not really working with the rest of the deck, though I will miss it.
Now trying to find place for dragonlord ojutai and shu yun, the silent tempest.. Really hard, guess arashin foremost only works with ruhan himself is a reason to take it out?
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Arashin foremost
In:
Dragonlord Ojutai
I like the idea of shu yun, but not sure what to take out.. Any ideas?
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Hallowed Moonlight could be useful, but I think is more of a meta call.
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Out:
Hanna, ship's navigator
Tempest of Light
Sword of Body and Mind
Masterwork of ingenuity
In:
Lu xun, scholar general
wheel of fortune
reforge the soul
windfall
Added to maybeboard:
rhystic study
recurring insight
fact or fiction
the cards taken out
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