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Hey! So I wanted to try this out for a really long time and finally did it.

[edit - I edited this deck because first one I forgot lands @_@


Ya know what? I didn't put any lands in there.... Holy moly I'm an idiot. THis is too hard @_@ What's a good number of lands to shoot for? 35?

Hey, welcome to the format! Which banlist are you planning to use? The absolute minimum land count I'd recommend would be 36 lands if your deck runs green, 37 if your deck doesn't. Nothing worse than being out of a game because you are mana screwed.

I have no idea about the banlist! I just looked on the wizards banlist that was quite short and there were only 3 that I couldn't use like balance and protean hulk (which I thought strange).

I'm trying to get my cards down to accept 37 land. Did you see the artifact land gen?



you think those would effect the land number or still shoot for 37?

What do you think I should take out? The prevent damage guys? Circle of protections?

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you think those would effect the land number or still shoot for 37?

Personally, I don't allow artifact ramp to replace lands in my decks. If I don't need the ramp, then I take them out. I never consider them to take up a land slot, but some people do so ymmv.

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What do you think I should take out? The prevent damage guys? Circle of protections?

Removing the Circle of Protections are a good starting point. Since you're posting in the 1v1 section, a simple Nevermore on your opponent's general would be better.

Edit: There are two primary banlists for EDH, the multiplayer banlist(which is widely known), and the Duel-Commander banlist (designed for 1v1 tournament play).

Thanks for the links!! I think it's less terrible now. I'd love to play multi and use the CoP's but it's just 1v1 for now.

Here's what I've got now

Hey there and welcome to the format!

Since you're using Teysa as your general, I would suggest the following cards that I think might have good interaction with her and the rest of your cards:

Blood Artist - Pings your opponent for each creature that dies. Falkenrath Noble is another suggestion.
Dictate of Erebos - Grave Pact would be the other option; This essentially turns your creatures into removal spells (well they have to die first) and could set-up a lot of 2-for-1s especially if you have a sacrifice outlet. Butcher of Malakir is another option.
Nantuko Husk - Sacrifice Outlet
Viscera Seer - Another sacrifice outlet
Abhorrent Overlord - Creates tokens for more fodder; Really big fatty, too.
Immortal Servitude - Lets you reuse creatures that you sacrifice.
Shriekmaw - All around solid card. Nekrataal is another option and so is Fleshbag Marauder.
Token producers like Cloudgoat Ranger , Geist-Honored Monk

If you have some extra budget, I would also recommend adding the following:
Sun Titan
Grave Titan
Karmic Guide
Skullclamp
Go for the thorat
Path to Exile
Dismember

I would definitely recommend you cutting the CoPs. If you want protection, Story Circle and Ghostly Prison are pretty good options.

To fix your manabase, you can try utilizing Vivid Lands, Orzhov Guildgate and Tainted Field.

Thanks for the suggestions! I definitely wouldn't mind a blood artist. I have a couple ways to get cards back from graveyard but not directly to the field. Those Titan's look beautiful @_@

I mainly get my cards now (excepting somoe of the casual 60 card decks I assemble) by rummaging the massive amounts of unsorted cards at my local. I'll be on the lookout for those guys. Espeially dictate of erebos and blood artist.

I updated the decklist, please let me know what you think! I think it's better focused now but I do need more stuff to sac to and more stuff to make stuff to sac

thinking about all of these


Spawning pit are artifacts though. the only one I have is the Altar. Don't know if I need it though. Would probably one of the other artifact mana generators.

War Priest of Thune is strictly better than Monk Realist.

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key word 'may' -- you dont want to be forced to destroy your own stuff.

Truth, I'll keep an eye out for him too! I need to make a list...

dumb question - but is hand size increased at all in EDH? Seems like you might wait for the right opportunity for certain combos and whatnot and end up with big hands.

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Truth, I'll keep an eye out for him too! I need to make a list...

dumb question - but is hand size increased at all in EDH? Seems like you might wait for the right opportunity for certain combos and whatnot and end up with big hands.

No, your hand size is still 7. But mulligans are different. If you use the multiplayer rules, you start by putting X cards from your hand away, then draw X. So the first mulligan is free. You may keep doing this as many times as you wish, but each additional time you will have to give up a card for each mulligan before.

In Duel-Commander you don't get a free first mulligan, but you also don't get penalized for multiple mulligans. It's always X-1.

Here is an example to help clarify:

Multiplayer mulligan-
Starting hand of 7.
1st mulligan 5 cards- still get 7 cards in opener
2nd mulligan 5 again- 6 cards in opener
3rd mulligan 5 again- 4 cards in opener

Duel-Commander mulligan-
Starting hand of 7.
1st mulligan 5 cards- down to 6 cards in opener
2nd mulligan 5 again - down to 5 in opener
3rd mulligan 5 again- down to 4 in opener

I hope that helped :).

that's wild though you can pick a card to exile and draw another. Maybe I'm missing something though because how do you redraw x-1 if you are exiling one for drawing one? Wouldn't you need to exile 2 and draw one?

I'm dense, sorry

I've always been under the impression that the first exile-draw is a freebie. But it's all so complicated! Let's just use conventional mulligans so as to 1) Not favour combo decks, and 2) So everything isn't "keep plains, land tax, then five good cards".

Partial Paris is a fricken #disasterific abomination that should be taken out back behind the wood shed and shot.

OK, how the heck do you guys shuffle your decks? They're so huge in sleeves @_@

Also I think I've got a pretty solid Teysa deck going so far. I added a diabolic tutor I found in the unsorted box at my local place and a few others like scholar of athreos, vizkopa guildmage, requiem angel is AWESOME with teysa. eater of hope, elgaud inquisitor,falkenrath noble, and fiend hunter have all helped out in their own ways. Feels a lot stronger.

Anyway SHuFFLING?

definitely! I'll look out for her I think I might've seen a couple.

Darkest Hour is a great card whit Teysa, Orzhov Scion and if you use Phyrexian Arena or Ashnod's Altaryou will have infinite mana..

Oh man!!! I hadn't thought of Darkest hour and I passed it up in the unsorteed box 3 days ago!!!!! DANGIt!!!!!!! ah!!!!!!! But wait...wouldn't I lose her ability to remove creatures? I use that a LOT especially if I manage to get skeletal vampire out. But I guess that's circumstance. I'm finding I really enjoy commander. A lot. I wish my friends did... I wish I had friends that played =(

Also on shuffling. Any other ideas? If I break it into two then shuffle those two I'm not getting interaction between the two halves AND the last shuffle is intense.

yap phyrexian altar i realy like Darkest Hour but its true that you wont be able to remove creatures..

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OK, how the heck do you guys shuffle your decks? They're so huge in sleeves @_@

I usually take 2 thirds of the deck (a little over half) and shuffle that, then swap half of that pile with the remaining pile and shuffle that bunch. I repeat until I'm satisfied. You'll be shuffling roughly 60-70 cards at a time if you do it right, and that's quite manageable.

Wow. Blasting Station and Darkest Hour are gonna have to find places in here @_@ Thanks for all the help guys I really think, while not AMAZING like I can see a lot of Commander decks being (you guys come up with the craziest combos!) It's still a lot of fun to play and has lots of board control and fun heavy hitters (my friend prety much despises woebringer demon

Are there other things like pegasus mesa though to help pump out white or black tokens? I really like Grave Titan and Oborrent Overlord like TOttytot pointed out, but what about things that are enchantments that keep pumping things out like breeding pit They're colorless and would work with Darkest Hour so I'd be relying on that one card that I MIGHT be able to tutor. Thoughts?

I built another Commander deck using Johan but it's really terrible. I mean...no yea it loses to This Teysa deck every game. I should've done sol'kanar swamp king but there's only so much black to go around! I think I'm gonna go for it anyway because I have tons of blue and red...well I don't know I'll make another post for it.

if you want to get tokens each turn you can use Bitterblossom and maybe a Sheoldred could healp you to control your oponent and keep your creatures

There are some pretty good Innistrad cards that I think would work well with this version of Teysa. Gallows Warden, Doomed Traveler, Mausoleum Guard, Thraben Sentry, Unruly Mob all kind of work well with her saccing creatures ability.