When I planned to make a two-colored deck, I couldn't decide on which colors to choose so I made two. The Tibor and Lumia I'm making is paused atm due to an identity crisis of sorts hahaha. And when I decided on the colors for the other deck, I checked what I got (plus the Decklist Database) and decided to go with Vhati il-Dal.
Read up on him. Thanks to 3drinks, LimDul945, and coversation for the tips, tricks, and inspiration~
Right now, this deck is still missing like 13 pieces. And of course, there'll be some changes with what's in it atm.
For example:
Thanks for the shout-out in your OP. Just a few comments:
I don't like Virulent Wound in your list. It's just a one-shot -1/-1 with a secondary ability that will never be relevant in your list. You could try replacing it with something like Tragic Slip to give you a little more reach after killing your first creature of the turn.
Nothing specificaly wrong with your selection, but I wanted to comment on your ramp suite. I found that I wanted to accelerate into casting my commander a turn early more often than not. To do that, you need to be running 2 cmc ramp spells. Hunting Wilds may help you to play your higher end of the curve, but if you really want to accelerate into Vhati, try looking at something like Nature's Lore or just Rampant Growth.
Really minor, but I prefer Night's Whisper to Sign in Blood. It's easier to cast in the early game with a 2-color manabase, and it cannot be redirected to someone else.
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Actually, the ramping part is where I'm really confused atm. I have this feeling that for a decent ramping (2 cmc), it might be pricey. And maybe I'm just unsure of proper ramping spells that can hold alternate uses in the late game.
Since I might go for an alternate infect route, I should really get cards like Pestilence Demon and Crypt Rats, give them the Exoskeleton or have the Mentor out.
Also, just recently added a Drown in Sorrow. I'm thinking if I should replace the Echoing Decay or if I'll just add both to the deck.
if you're serious about the infect as a win condition, Tainted Strike is a must. you could smash face with a pestilence demonor whatever then pump 2 more to infect-kill that opponent plus put each player 2 more along their infect track.
It just hit me earlier. What if the opponent is running a +1/+1 counter heavy deck? Eventually, it'll be a battle of counter-cancelling. Given the usual speed of those kinds of decks, I might surely get out-sped?
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Which reminds me, I should've gotten that Melira, Sylvok Outcast that I saw earlier! I think it'll work when mixed with the Pestilence Demon with Infect~
Trying to update the non-basic lands now. Gotta note which ones are worth putting so I can start putting aside monies for 'em~
Any suggestions on what are typically placed in BG? I checked manabasecrafter.com for the complete list but I'm not particularly sure of which ones will be of good use exactly.
Swapped some cards for more of the field-clearing focus. This is more of 70-30, inclining towards 1v1 duels. There are some cards here that serve as placeholders for their "strictly betters" (just have to find some first).
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Casual + Multiplayer (but can also be used for 1v1)
Budget (for now -- need to save up first for the more pricey cards)
4 Vhati il-Dal
Equipment (3)
1 Viridian Longbow
2 Thornbite Staff
4 Grafted Exoskeleton
Recursion (3)
2 Grim Harvest
2 Treasured Find
3 Down // Dirty
4 Down // Dirty
Removal (7)
2 Devour Flesh
2 Geth's Verdict
3 Putrefy
3 Beast Within
3 Krosan Grip
5 Puppeteer Clique
5 Acidic Slime
Ramp (8)
0 Chrome Mox
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
1 Expedition Map
2 Farseek
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Kodama's Reach
4 Hunting Wilds
6 Twisted Abomination
Tutor / Draw (11)
2 Shred Memory
2 Sign in Blood
3 Citanul Woodreaders
3 Dimir Machinations
3 Undead Gladiator
3 Read the Bones
4 Dimir House Guard
4 Reaper of the Wilds
4 Harmonize
5 Brainspoil
6 Beseech the Queen
1 Lose Hope
1 Darkblast
1 Tragic Slip
2 Golgari Charm
2 Marsh Casualties
2 Echoing Decay
3 Drown in Sorrow
3 Sudden Death
4 Night of Souls' Betrayal
5 Curse of Death's Hold
5 Aether Snap
6 Extinguish All Hope
-1/-1 Counters (12)
1 Virulent Wound
2 Contagion Clasp
2 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
2 Fevered Convulsions
2 Crumbling Ashes
3 Corrosive Mentor
3 Grim Affliction
3 Rendclaw Trow
3 Blowfly Infestation
4 Soul Snuffers
5 Flourishing Defenses
6 Carnifex Demon
Beaters (4)
4 Canker Abomination
5 Soul Collector
6 Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
6 Witherscale Wurm
5 Liliana Vess
Lands (37)
1 Tranquil Thicket
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Hickory Woodlot
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Jund Panorama
1 Barren Moor
1 Pendelhaven
8 Forest
18 Swamp
Original Deck List
4 Vhati il-Dal
Weapons (2)
1 Viridian Longbow
2 Thornbite Staff
Recursion (4)
1 Serene Remembrance
2 Treasured Find
2 Grim Harvest
6 Deadwood Treefolk
Minuses (15)
1 Darkblast
1 Lose Hope
2 Squall Line
2 Feebleness
2 Echoing Decay
3 Death's-Head Buzzard
3 Sudden Death
3 Afflict
3 Grim Affliction
4 Rolling Spoil
4 Night of Souls' Betrayal
4 Disciple of Tevesh Szat
5 Curse of Death's Hold
5 Weed-Pruner Poplar
2 Sign in Blood
2 Shred Memory
3 Dimir Machinations
3 Citanul Woodreaders
3 Undead Gladiator
3 Read the Bones
4 Diabolic Tutor
4 Dimir House Guard
4 Syphon Mind
4 Harmonize
5 Brainspoil
Ramp (7)
0 Chrome Mox
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
1 Expedition Map
2 Farseek
3 Darksteel Ingot
4 Hunting Wilds
6 Twisted Abomination
Removal (6)
2 Withered Wretch
2 Devour Flesh
3 Putrefy
3 Beast Within
3 Krosan Grip
4 Grisly Spectacle
4 Temporal Extortion
4 Noxious Hatchling
5 Soul Collector
Lands (38)
13 Swamp
13 Forest
1 Mirrodin's Core
1 Peat Bog
1 Encroaching Wastes
1 Hickory Woodlot
1 Barren Moor
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Jund Panorama
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Thespian's Stage
1 Terramorphic Expanse
When I planned to make a two-colored deck, I couldn't decide on which colors to choose so I made two. The Tibor and Lumia I'm making is paused atm due to an identity crisis of sorts hahaha. And when I decided on the colors for the other deck, I checked what I got (plus the Decklist Database) and decided to go with Vhati il-Dal.
Read up on him. Thanks to 3drinks, LimDul945, and coversation for the tips, tricks, and inspiration~
Right now, this deck is still missing like 13 pieces. And of course, there'll be some changes with what's in it atm.
For example:
Land Changes
Creature Changes
Spell Optimization
Planning to add:
Blowfly InfestationSoul SnuffersCorrosive MentorDecided to go with the focus on -1/-1 counters. Going for more field control but I think I need to add a finisher or a big bump to end it all.
Comments will be really useful~
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(-) Virulent Wound / (+) Tragic Slip
(-) Sign in Blood / (+) Night's Whisper
(+) Blowfly Infestation
(+) Soul Snuffers
(+) Marsh Casualties
(+) Acidic Slime
(+) Corrosive Mentor
(+) Contagion Clasp
(+) Grafted Exoskeleton
(+) Drown in Sorrow
(+) Kodama's Reach
CONSIDERING
(-) Feebleness / (+) Tainted Strike
CONSIDERING
(+) Pharika, God of Affliction
Updated Decklist!
4 Vhati il-Dal
Equipment (3)
1 Viridian Longbow
2 Thornbite Staff
4 Grafted Exoskeleton
Recursion (3)
2 Grim Harvest
2 Treasured Find
3 Down // Dirty
4 Down // Dirty
Removal (7)
2 Devour Flesh
2 Geth's Verdict
3 Putrefy
3 Beast Within
3 Krosan Grip
5 Puppeteer Clique
5 Acidic Slime
Ramp (8)
0 Chrome Mox
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
1 Expedition Map
2 Farseek
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Kodama's Reach
4 Hunting Wilds
6 Twisted Abomination
Tutor / Draw (11)
2 Shred Memory
2 Sign in Blood
3 Citanul Woodreaders
3 Dimir Machinations
3 Undead Gladiator
3 Read the Bones
4 Dimir House Guard
4 Reaper of the Wilds
4 Harmonize
5 Brainspoil
6 Beseech the Queen
1 Lose Hope
1 Darkblast
1 Tragic Slip
2 Golgari Charm
2 Marsh Casualties
2 Echoing Decay
3 Drown in Sorrow
3 Sudden Death
4 Night of Souls' Betrayal
5 Curse of Death's Hold
5 Aether Snap
6 Extinguish All Hope
-1/-1 Counters (12)
1 Virulent Wound
2 Contagion Clasp
2 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
2 Fevered Convulsions
2 Crumbling Ashes
3 Corrosive Mentor
3 Grim Affliction
3 Rendclaw Trow
3 Blowfly Infestation
4 Soul Snuffers
5 Flourishing Defenses
6 Carnifex Demon
Beaters (4)
4 Canker Abomination
5 Soul Collector
6 Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
6 Witherscale Wurm
5 Liliana Vess
Lands (37)
1 Tranquil Thicket
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Hickory Woodlot
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Jund Panorama
1 Barren Moor
1 Pendelhaven
8 Forest
18 Swamp
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—Lim-Dul, the Necromancer
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Draft my "Classic Border Cube"
WUBRGCheck out some of my older lists and my Type4 Cube!GRBUW
Actually, the ramping part is where I'm really confused atm. I have this feeling that for a decent ramping (2 cmc), it might be pricey. And maybe I'm just unsure of proper ramping spells that can hold alternate uses in the late game.
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Acorn Catapult???? I dont know about it but perhaps?
Phyrexian Plaguelord could be cool but I dont think you have the tokens / recursive creatures / creature base to run it that well.
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And that Staff of Nin seems just about right. How'd I miss this card? Thanks!
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Since I might go for an alternate infect route, I should really get cards like Pestilence Demon and Crypt Rats, give them the Exoskeleton or have the Mentor out.
Also, just recently added a Drown in Sorrow. I'm thinking if I should replace the Echoing Decay or if I'll just add both to the deck.
What do you guys think?
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grafted exoskeleton is alright, but the instant effect cannot be ignored.
Legacy - Solidarity - mono U aggro - burn - Imperial Painter - Strawberry Shortcake - Bluuzards - bom
Should really get that Pestilence Demon then. Might switch out Feebleness for that Tainted Strike. I like it, I like it.
It just hit me earlier. What if the opponent is running a +1/+1 counter heavy deck? Eventually, it'll be a battle of counter-cancelling. Given the usual speed of those kinds of decks, I might surely get out-sped?
Does that mean I should include like a Hex Parasite or a Vampire Hexmage?
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I comboed him withconsumptive goo and seedborn muse.
EDH-
Shattergang BothersGBR Kaalia the Vast RBW Pillowpants the Blackblade, Troll of the PillowfortBUW Jarad Golgari Lich Lord's Pet CemeteryGB (Retired)
Ghave Guru of SporesGBW (Retired)
Jenara, Asura of WarGWU Norin the WayR Rhys the RedeemedGW Oloro, Ageless AsceticBUW
Ezuri, Renegade LeaderG
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Any suggestions on what are typically placed in BG? I checked manabasecrafter.com for the complete list but I'm not particularly sure of which ones will be of good use exactly.
Suggestions?
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ANYWAY
With the new, Pharika, God of Affliction spoiled, I think it'll make the cut in this deck~
It can help out Withered Wretch with cleaning their graveyards and the Snakes will just pop when Curse of Death's Hold or Night of Souls' Betrayal is out~
I don't think I'll add an Illness in the Ranks here (?) If ever, it'll be sided.
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4 Vhati il-Dal
Equipment (3)
1 Viridian Longbow
2 Thornbite Staff
4 Grafted Exoskeleton
Recursion (3)
2 Grim Harvest
2 Treasured Find
3 Down // Dirty
4 Down // Dirty
Removal (7)
2 Devour Flesh
2 Geth's Verdict
3 Putrefy
3 Beast Within
3 Krosan Grip
5 Puppeteer Clique
5 Acidic Slime
Ramp (8)
0 Chrome Mox
1 Wayfarer's Bauble
1 Expedition Map
2 Farseek
3 Farhaven Elf
3 Kodama's Reach
4 Hunting Wilds
6 Twisted Abomination
Tutor / Draw (11)
2 Shred Memory
2 Sign in Blood
3 Citanul Woodreaders
3 Dimir Machinations
3 Undead Gladiator
3 Read the Bones
4 Dimir House Guard
4 Reaper of the Wilds
4 Harmonize
5 Brainspoil
6 Beseech the Queen
1 Lose Hope
1 Darkblast
1 Tragic Slip
2 Golgari Charm
2 Marsh Casualties
2 Echoing Decay
3 Drown in Sorrow
3 Sudden Death
4 Night of Souls' Betrayal
5 Curse of Death's Hold
5 Aether Snap
6 Extinguish All Hope
-1/-1 Counters (12)
1 Virulent Wound
2 Contagion Clasp
2 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
2 Fevered Convulsions
2 Crumbling Ashes
3 Corrosive Mentor
3 Grim Affliction
3 Rendclaw Trow
3 Blowfly Infestation
4 Soul Snuffers
5 Flourishing Defenses
6 Carnifex Demon
Beaters (4)
4 Canker Abomination
5 Soul Collector
6 Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
6 Witherscale Wurm
5 Liliana Vess
Lands (37)
1 Tranquil Thicket
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Golgari Guildgate
1 Hickory Woodlot
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Jund Panorama
1 Barren Moor
1 Pendelhaven
8 Forest
18 Swamp
Swapped some cards for more of the field-clearing focus. This is more of 70-30, inclining towards 1v1 duels. There are some cards here that serve as placeholders for their "strictly betters" (just have to find some first).
EDH DECKS
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