This is a rough list, Mainly a brainstorming session for a deck I'm very interested in building.
Derevi just screams Lock down. She's cheap to re-cast from the command zone, and when creatures hit, they untap stuff. So why not just keep things tapped and expensive.
So you kind of get a basic idea of what the deck is trying to do.
And Look at that sexy curve!
O drop-1
1 drop-7
2 drop-16
3 drop-24
4 drop-9
5 drop-7
6 drop-2
lets us have a lower land count and the deck can still function efficiently under a lock.
There's kind of enough un blockable dudes as is already, you think? This deck OBVIOUSLY needs to be tested, so I'm sure he may be an include if the other dorks don't get there.
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There's kind of enough un blockable dudes as is already, you think? This deck OBVIOUSLY needs to be tested, so I'm sure he may be an include if the other dorks don't get there.
I suppose, but Venser gives you another Derevi Twiddle, the unblockable thing, and that ultimate is really nice. I was talking about this deck last night and I think Martial Coup should be in there. Wrath the board and leave behind 5+ dudes, then flash in Derevi should give you some control even without an Orb in play.
Daxos is terrible. I hate that he is, but I've never seen him do anything worth the slot. Cephalid Constable, Thada Adel, and Augury Adept are all so much better in a deck like this. I've really liked Medomai the Ageless over Aetherling too. Aetherling is cool, but the mana requirement in an Orb deck will be rough.
FYI - This is the deck I was pulling stuff for yesterday, so I am not 100% pulling this out of my ass. I figure this and a Rakdos deck would be good complements.
At 2 there is also that Sovereign lady who makes everyone else's creatures come in tapped.
I keep looking at Orb of Dreams for this too. Rising Waters is a definite yes, but Orb is... another Orb. Also, Unwinding Clock is getting close enough to be good for me. Once you hit 15 tappable artifacts Tezzeret comes in too. Garruk Wildspeaker gives you untapped dudes, but that untagging crap seems nice as well. Drop him right before you stasis out the board.
Heliod, God of the Sun is pushing it at 4, but he gives the guys Vigilance, so attacking can pretty lopsided. Ajani Goldmane almost looks playable too if one were to add in Land kill.
What's the wincon here, just lock everyone else down?
Puca's Mischief will work wonders here. Symmetrical effects like Winter/Static Orbs, Rising Waters etc can be used to trade for opponent's mana rocks, further slowing them down.
At 2 there is also that Sovereign lady who makes everyone else's creatures come in tapped.
I keep looking at Orb of Dreams for this too. Rising Waters is a definite yes, but Orb is... another Orb. Also, Unwinding Clock is getting close enough to be good for me. Once you hit 15 tappable artifacts Tezzeret comes in too. Garruk Wildspeaker gives you untapped dudes, but that untagging crap seems nice as well. Drop him right before you stasis out the board.
Heliod, God of the Sun is pushing it at 4, but he gives the guys Vigilance, so attacking can pretty lopsided. Ajani Goldmane almost looks playable too if one were to add in Land kill.
yeah, the deck has a ton of cards that would work well in it. I think the deck had 147 cards in it when started (just dumping what i liked and would cut down later)
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What's the wincon here, just lock everyone else down?
Puca's Mischief will work wonders here. Symmetrical effects like Winter/Static Orbs, Rising Waters etc can be used to trade for opponent's mana rocks, further slowing them down.
The win condition is when nobody can do much, your threats get there. Opalescence turns your enchantments into threats as well. Puca's mischief is poor here since the object is to not have opponents be able to play threats, so unless they power through the lock, it's a dead card.
It's a Grindy deck for a high powered meta.
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The double strike enablers, are they worth the slots?
Reading your decklist and description keeps making me think of parallax wave. An enchantment that can help your creatures tempo, scales well with your CiP effects, and has a really great time with opalescence. It might be worth thinking about.
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Interesting list missing a few stasis tech cards that you should be running. Ie mastermind forsaken city. I'm uploading some videos finite if my 5 color orb deck I have had a lot of success with. Mtgo feels buggy and it gives me sol ring to often so my last few games have been blow outs where I'm the only 1 who plays magic all game. I have disliked static orb more and more and prefer tutors to redundancy. Also frozen Aether kismet effects are brutal here.
No Deadeye Navigator + Gilded Lotus for infinite lock down with Derevi? Seems like an auto-scoop for all opponents involved.
Are infi combos frowned upon in your meta?
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Clan RepresentativeDerevi just screams Lock down. She's cheap to re-cast from the command zone, and when creatures hit, they untap stuff. So why not just keep things tapped and expensive.
Obviously the main cards here are:
We want to mess with the untap phase and do it hard.
Now we get to play around that.
These cards get in for beats so you can untap stuff.
and these just play great with the above or just untap your crap for value
Oh and I just love the enchanted evening/opalescence combo.
So you kind of get a basic idea of what the deck is trying to do.
And Look at that sexy curve!
O drop-1
1 drop-7
2 drop-16
3 drop-24
4 drop-9
5 drop-7
6 drop-2
lets us have a lower land count and the deck can still function efficiently under a lock.
1 Derevi, Empyrial Tactician
Creatures 18
1 Academy rector
1 True-name nemesis
1 Invisible stalker
1 Sun titan
1 Prophet of kruphix
1 Seedborn muse
1 Grand abolisher
1 Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Lodestone golem
1 Ætherling
1 Blighted agent
1 Cephalid Constable
1 Hokori, Dust Drinker
1 Eternal witness
1 Silverblade paladin
1 Escape Artist
1 Karmic guide
Enchantments-14
1 Rising waters
1 Nature's will
1 Stasis
1 Mirari’s wake
1 Privileged Position
1 Enchanted evening
1 Opalescence
1 Sterling Grove
1 Karmic justice
1 Aura of silence
1 Land tax
1 Land equilibrium
1 Mana Vortex
1 Rhystic study
1 Sol ring
1 Mana Crypt
1 Coalition relic
1 Strionic resonator
1 Azorius signet
1 Simic Signet
1 Selesnya signet
1 Cromatic lantern
1 Winter orb
1 Static orb
1 Tangle wire
1 Sphere of Resistance
1 Sword of feast and famine
1 Sword of fire and ice
1 Umezawa's jitte
1 Fireshrieker
1 Sensei’s divining top
1 Scroll Rack
1 Birthing pod
spells 13
1 Path to exile
1 Krosan grip
1 Beast within
1 Swords to plowshares
1 Deglamer
1 Return to dust
1 Cyclonic rift
1 Dissipate
1 Hinder
1 Spell Crumple
1 Mana Drain
1 Enlightened tutor
1 Mystical tutor
1 Venser, the sojourner
Land-34
1 Academy Ruins
1 Alchemists refuge
1 rogue's passage
1 Strip mine
1 Waste land
1 Celestial colonnade
1 stirring wildwood
1 muta vault
1 Mishra’s factory
1 Misty rainforest
1 Flooded strand
1 Windswept Heath
1 Breeding pool
1 Hallowed fountain
1 Temple Guarden
1 Tropical island
1 Tundra
1 Savannah
1 Hinterland Harbor
1 Glacial fortress
1 Sunpetal grove
1 Command tower
4 Island
4 plains
4 forest
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Clan RepresentativeThere's kind of enough un blockable dudes as is already, you think? This deck OBVIOUSLY needs to be tested, so I'm sure he may be an include if the other dorks don't get there.
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Love the list, basically what I'd do with Derevi.
Personally I'd add a Birthing Pod to sac Derevi into Academy Rector/Hokori, Dust Drinker.
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Clan Representativeyeah, I think venser needs a spot. and I like that birthing pod idea. It also gets around the tap down effects to get bigger threats out.
I'm thinking
-supreme verdict (I really don't see the need for sweepers that much)
+Venser
-worldy tutor
+birthing pod.
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I suppose, but Venser gives you another Derevi Twiddle, the unblockable thing, and that ultimate is really nice. I was talking about this deck last night and I think Martial Coup should be in there. Wrath the board and leave behind 5+ dudes, then flash in Derevi should give you some control even without an Orb in play.
Daxos is terrible. I hate that he is, but I've never seen him do anything worth the slot. Cephalid Constable, Thada Adel, and Augury Adept are all so much better in a deck like this. I've really liked Medomai the Ageless over Aetherling too. Aetherling is cool, but the mana requirement in an Orb deck will be rough.
FYI - This is the deck I was pulling stuff for yesterday, so I am not 100% pulling this out of my ass. I figure this and a Rakdos deck would be good complements.
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Clan RepresentativeI like aetherling a lot here. It's one of two cards at 6 and if pod goes in, you can just cheat him into play.
+venser
+Cephalid Constable
+birthing pod
-supreme verdict
-worldly tutor
-daxos
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Clan Representativeyeah, I may dump tangle wire for this. Don't know yet. Maybe karmic guide...
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I get why they are there, but it seems like win more stuff. If they are good enough to play you should already be there.
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Clan Representativedat scry though!
and bear umbra doesn't need you to connect to untap lands.
but I see what you're saying.
-bear umbra
+rising waters
but what to replace aquas with?
Edit. I kind of want a two drop creature. It's pretty light creature wise there.
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Clan Representativeyeah, I have no idea why I cut it from the original list.
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Aqua can become Steel of the Godhead if you feel you need unblockable. Or Teferi's Veil.
The 2-drops I have are:
At 2 there is also that Sovereign lady who makes everyone else's creatures come in tapped.
I keep looking at Orb of Dreams for this too. Rising Waters is a definite yes, but Orb is... another Orb. Also, Unwinding Clock is getting close enough to be good for me. Once you hit 15 tappable artifacts Tezzeret comes in too. Garruk Wildspeaker gives you untapped dudes, but that untagging crap seems nice as well. Drop him right before you stasis out the board.
Heliod, God of the Sun is pushing it at 4, but he gives the guys Vigilance, so attacking can pretty lopsided. Ajani Goldmane almost looks playable too if one were to add in Land kill.
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Puca's Mischief will work wonders here. Symmetrical effects like Winter/Static Orbs, Rising Waters etc can be used to trade for opponent's mana rocks, further slowing them down.
WUBRG Reaper King - Elf Tribal WUBRG | Tribal Fun
WRG Gishath, Sun's Avatar - Dinosaur Tribal WRG | Rawr!!!
WUG Derevi, Empyrial Tactician - Enchantress Tactics WUG | Enchantments Focused
GBG The Gitrog Monster - Land Shenanigans GBG | Lands/Mill Focused
WBW Kambal, Consul of Life Allocation Matters WBW | Life Gain/Loss focused
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Clan Representativeyeah, the deck has a ton of cards that would work well in it. I think the deck had 147 cards in it when started (just dumping what i liked and would cut down later)
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Clan RepresentativeThe win condition is when nobody can do much, your threats get there. Opalescence turns your enchantments into threats as well. Puca's mischief is poor here since the object is to not have opponents be able to play threats, so unless they power through the lock, it's a dead card.
It's a Grindy deck for a high powered meta.
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Clan RepresentativeUsually takes 3vs1 to take it down if it's running.
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In addition to the things Galspanic already suggested there's always Scryb Ranger to consider.
GWU Derevi, the Prison Queen UWG
Reading your decklist and description keeps making me think of parallax wave. An enchantment that can help your creatures tempo, scales well with your CiP effects, and has a really great time with opalescence. It might be worth thinking about.
Gitrog Lands
Merieke Ri Berit Flicker
Ramos, Dragon Engine Storm
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
Are infi combos frowned upon in your meta?
B Chainer, Dementia Master B | UG Edric, Spymaster of Trest UG | WRG Marath, Will of the Wild WRG | UBR Marchesa, the Black Rose UBR | UBG Tasigur, the Golden Fang UBG
Modern:
WBG Abzan Company WBG | UBR Grixis Delver and/or Twin UBR | U Merfolk U
WBG Anafenza, the Foremost WBG
WUR Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR
WUBRG Horde of Notions WUBRG
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon WUBRG
URG Maelstrom Wanderer URG
UBG Damia, Sage of Stone UBG
WUG Roon of the Hidden Realm WUG
WUG Rafiq of the Many WUG
WUG Deveri, Empyrial Tactician WUG
BRG Prossh, Skyraider of Kher BRG
WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain WBG
UBR Nekusar, the Mind Razer UBR
WBR Kaalia of the Vast WBR
UG Prime Speaker Zegana UG
UG Edric, Spymaster of Trest UG
WB Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter WB
WU Grand Arbiter Augustin IV WU
UW Ephara Hatebears [Primer], GB Gitrog Lands, BRU Inalla Combo-Control, URG Maelstrom Wanderer Landfall
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Clan RepresentativeThey're not. I just don't like running two cards for one reason, especially if one is poor in the deck.
I have been eyeing kismet effects for it. Maybe when I actually make a paper version.
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