M14 Came out yesterday and I have most of the cards for the deck and I've been testing it for a couple weeks and it seems to run very good. The past decklists have been untested ideas so now I posted the version I have been testing.
- Demonic Collusion and Increasing Ambition + 2 Shadowborn Apostle
- Crystal Quarry, Bojuka Bog, Phyrexian Tower, and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Vivid Crag, Vesuva, Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion, and Shard Convergence
-/+ To many things to list.
What's your reason for going 5-color? Just for the Karona buff? I'm asking because I think the deck can go BGW (since most of your cards in that color) and have Karador, Ghost Chieftain as its general instead.
I would consider scroll rack for putting demons back into your library for apostles to find.
Also I agree with kicks, Karador could be a better general for the strategy, and fits the colours. Except for: signal the clans which could be replaced with buried alive or if you have the card/cash survival of the fittest, and Sphinx of the Chimes which cold be slate of ancestry since your going tribal.
If your stuck on Karona then I'd suggest the Vivid Lands as great early five colour lands, sure they come in tapped but that's okay.
Other than that looks really good and hope you have fun with it.
you want something funny with karona? play tombstone stairwell and search for extractor demon. just be sure you have a card that says zombies cant attack you
That's actually not a bad idea, Mimeoplasm as the general would lend himself to the strategy allowing you to reanimate some of the demons for cheaper and would provide you with an alternate win condition of general damage which Karador doesn't really lend himself to.
I just realised it also means you'd lose prince of thrills and master of cruelty. Same with if you played Karador.
Why do you want each colour in your deck then it'd help us to help you.
Well this is it and I've already pre ordered the Apostles :D.
Also if there is someone with a five color EDH deck that runs smoothly or just a mana curve guru out there, I could use some tips.
If you just plan on using Demonic Collusion, Increasing Ambition, & Diabolic Revelation to get Apostles, I'm not sure they're worth it... though I suppose you could grab other cards that would get you more Apostles. Then again, I really dislike using tutors in EDH without knowing my deck inside and out. I don't put them in until I've played it at least a few times for that reason. Crystal Quarry never impressed me much. By the time I get 6 lands out, I almost always have all 5 colors already. Starlit Sanctum seems really low-impact as well. When I first heard of your idea for this deck, I thought... "6 Apostles can be in play by turn 3, getting you a big demon on turn 4". Personally, I'd try to fit in more Apostles if possible. Without ramp, turn 4 is the earliest you'll be able to get that demon (assuming you have 6 Apostles) but with only 22 in the deck, your chances are pretty slim.
The reason I am going 5 Color is because new cards come out, I want to be able to keep my options open if I find new combos in the future, and I want to run Prince of Thralls. Plus the Karona buff is very fun.
@yugular
I'm on a bit of a budget and that is why I'm going the route I am, but the ideal land base would be what you have in your Karona EDH.
@SoDeFCallidus
I completely forgot about Scroll Rack, so as soon as I get the cash that is going to be in this.
@BetweenWalls
Your right, I should put at least 24 Apostles in the deck. The reason I put starlit sanctum in the deck is so I could combo it with either Conspiracy or Mirror Entity. You can consider Crystal Quarry removed from the deck since I'm going to completely redo the Landbase.
Im already starting to put this deck together. I will be using 36-40 apostles, all low cost tutor (CMC < 5) Then use the Rotlung/Extractor Demon/Tombstone Stairwell Engine. Thrum thrum thrum........
1 Karona, False God
The Apostles (24)
24 Shadowborn Apostle
The Summoned (10)
1 Bloodgift Demon
1 Harvester of Souls
1 Lord of the Void
1 Master of Cruelties
1 Prince of Thralls
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Pestilence Demon
1 Carnifex Demon
1 Reaper from the Abyss
1 Malfegor
Revival Spells (5)
1 Faith's Reward
1 Bloodbond March
1 Immortal Servitude
1 Doomed Necromancer
1 Rise of the Dark Realms
Draw Stuff (5)
1 Necropotence
1 Underworld Connections
1 Sphinx of the Chimes
1 Dark Prophecy
1 Mind Unbound
Sacrificial Abuse (1)
1 Martyr's Bond
1 Mortal Combat
Find Apostles (2)
1 Diabolic Revelation
1 Doubling Chant
Secret Tech (6)
1 Conspiracy
1 Aven Shrine
1 Grand Abolisher
1 Tribal Unity
1 Shard Convergence
1 Crypt Ghast
Clerics (8)
1 Ancestor's Prophet
1 Doubtless One
1 Edgewalker
1 Rotlung Reanimator
1 Skirsdag High Priest
1 Pontiff of Blight
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Devout Chaplain
Lands (37)
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Crypt of Agadeem
1 Watery Grave
1 Blood Crypt
1 Godless Shrine
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Vivid Grove
1 Vivid Marsh
1 Vivid Meadow
1 Vivid Creek
1 Vivid Crag
1 Arcane Sanctum
1 Crumbling Necropolis
1 Savage Lands
1 Seaside Citadel
1 Jungle Shrine
1 Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion
1 Starlit Sanctum
1 Vault of the Archangel
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Thespian’s Stage
1 Mistveil Plains
1 New Benalia
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Mystifying Maze
3 Plains
2 Island
2 Mountain
2 Forest
3 Swamp
Deck Wish List
3 Shadowborn Apostle
Watery Grave (Mine's a Proxy)
Blood Crypt (Mine's a Proxy)
Mirror Entity
Overgrown Tomb (Mine's a Proxy)
Cavern of Souls
Command Tower
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth (Mine's a Proxy)
Thrumming Stone
Forbidden Orchard
Homeward Path
- Demonic Collusion and Increasing Ambition + 2 Shadowborn Apostle
- Crystal Quarry, Bojuka Bog, Phyrexian Tower, and Mikaeus, the Unhallowed + Vivid Crag, Vesuva, Sunhome, Fortress of the Legion, and Shard Convergence
-/+ To many things to list.
Decks
GGSachi, Daughter of SeshiroGG
WUBRGThe Ur-DragonGRBUW
WBGGhave, Guru of SporesGBW
Also I agree with kicks, Karador could be a better general for the strategy, and fits the colours. Except for: signal the clans which could be replaced with buried alive or if you have the card/cash survival of the fittest, and Sphinx of the Chimes which cold be slate of ancestry since your going tribal.
If your stuck on Karona then I'd suggest the Vivid Lands as great early five colour lands, sure they come in tapped but that's okay.
Other than that looks really good and hope you have fun with it.
I just realised it also means you'd lose prince of thrills and master of cruelty. Same with if you played Karador.
Why do you want each colour in your deck then it'd help us to help you.
The reason I am going 5 Color is because new cards come out, I want to be able to keep my options open if I find new combos in the future, and I want to run Prince of Thralls. Plus the Karona buff is very fun.
@yugular
I'm on a bit of a budget and that is why I'm going the route I am, but the ideal land base would be what you have in your Karona EDH.
@SoDeFCallidus
I completely forgot about Scroll Rack, so as soon as I get the cash that is going to be in this.
@BetweenWalls
Your right, I should put at least 24 Apostles in the deck. The reason I put starlit sanctum in the deck is so I could combo it with either Conspiracy or Mirror Entity. You can consider Crystal Quarry removed from the deck since I'm going to completely redo the Landbase.
Decks
GGSachi, Daughter of SeshiroGG
WUBRGThe Ur-DragonGRBUW
WBGGhave, Guru of SporesGBW