I have always loved Geist with the new legend rule he's even better though his impact seems low he comes down fast applies pressure where needed abd gets your opponent to waste cards and in Geist case tutors or whipes to deal with him. The deck plays like a draw go Controling blue deck abd can be played at a compeitive or casual table as long as you don't abuse the time warp when playing casually. The concept is simple drop Geist apply pressure draw tons of cards counter anything problematic whipping the board re droping giest as needed and refilling your hand over and over until
Your the only one left with cards. In a compeitive setting abuse the time warp to go infinte. The deck is very fun if you like control play it on mtgo and have just slipped it up for my not noobs but not hermit Druid level of compeitive tables though I'm sure the deck could have quite a bit of fun at those tables but probly wins too slow in that meta to have a good win%. Without further ado the list
I really love Geist. and I've been wanting to build a deck around him for some time. How do you feel about mass LD/Stax for him? It can be a dick move, but it'd help one hold they're tempo advantage.
LD effects are very strong in this deck i intentionally stayed away from Armageddon for 2 reasons 1 because if it was in their I Would tutor it all too often and this is tutor light package so every tutor that could hit it would. Number 2 i already play enough mana rocks once you play geddon effects you start to feel like you want 20 mana rocks to feel optimized and every tutor and ld effect you can get. Being someone who must have an optimized strategy i strayed away from that. That being said i think its impossible to ride A card that does 4 normal damage and 2 commander damage to victory without the other cards doing it for you. He can however do enough damage and quite quickly with some help to create massive card advantage and card quality by forcing opponents hands ( Multiple times since he is so cheap initially ) And then finishing the game off for you with the help of an enchant or sword or large friend like avacyn. giest has always been amazing draw go type commander in 1v1 He is here too. Reguardless you should build him however you want hes really fun to play. Last game i played was like 14 turns on mtgo. I held off double Serra ascendants by myself. Quickly drew a ton of cards with recurring insight Politcally used intuition to wrath 2 other players with massive boards that i had run out of ways to bounce and stall out. pop a massive Sphin'x revelation adn the entire time im keeping geist out and watching him absorb removal blinking him in response to target removal from player with gleeming w/e it is that lets you target hexproof. Doing enough damage to force them to play in ways which lets me continue to remove threats and bury tghem in CA. By turn 14 i had prbly taken 50 damage but i was at 47 life with an avacyn out holding a war in peace and a restoration angel with a steel of the godhead holding a Full grip of counters looking at the 23 cards left in my deck the other guy has lands in top deck mode. Giest is alot of fun hope you enjoy him !
Hey I think your decklist has 101 cards. Any idea what the extra card is? I've been wanting to build a UW based control deck for a while now, so I will either be building UW, UWR, or UWB.
Also tips for making it more budget friendly? I entered it on deckbox and the cost is like $1700.
Hey I think your decklist has 101 cards. Any idea what the extra card is? I've been wanting to build a UW based control deck for a while now, so I will either be building UW, UWR, or UWB.
Also tips for making it more budget friendly? I entered it on deckbox and the cost is like $1700.
101? where did i miscount i see 18 18 20 which im about to edit but thats about it.
As for budget options i mean the first thign would be cut expensive cards for preordain and impulse. after that if you cant afford the a land or 2 basics are fine in 2 colors. If you dont own a Force of will buy one ... but seriously the deck needs the pitch counters taht why it has so many large draw effects. infact my next suggestion is replace the next cards you cant afford with thirst for knowledgeJace's ingeinuty instant speed draw or simply extra counters like Arcane Denial or Dissmiss . Being light on spot removal Cards like Dismantling Blow are fine. If you want to combo off there is Guile + Dovescape or Enchanted EveningAura Thief i liked that better in ertai. If you play black every staple tutor that you own can eat a card slot but i personally cant look at the esper color pie without going hmm this should just be a a ad naus Shrooom deck ><! I really like just playing draw go poping a mystical tutoring with a counter balence out to counter a spell and grab my next card . you can do some cool stuff like brainstorm or jace down the devsation tide with top out and save it for instant speed off of top continuously hiding it . i have enjoyed playing the deck though the blue skew makes it feel like a MUC deck trying to hide behind Geist who is yelling "LOOK VOLTRON"
101? where did i miscount i see 18 18 20 which im about to edit but thats about it.
As for budget options i mean the first thign would be cut expensive cards for preordain and impulse. after that if you cant afford the a land or 2 basics are fine in 2 colors. If you dont own a Force of will buy one ... but seriously the deck needs the pitch counters taht why it has so many large draw effects. infact my next suggestion is replace the next cards you cant afford with thirst for knowledgeJace's ingeinuty instant speed draw or simply extra counters like Arcane Denial or Dissmiss . Being light on spot removal Cards like Dismantling Blow are fine. If you want to combo off there is Guile + Dovescape or Enchanted EveningAura Thief i liked that better in ertai. If you play black every staple tutor that you own can eat a card slot but i personally cant look at the esper color pie without going hmm this should just be a a ad naus Shrooom deck ><! I really like just playing draw go poping a mystical tutoring with a counter balence out to counter a spell and grab my next card . you can do some cool stuff like brainstorm or jace down the devsation tide with top out and save it for instant speed off of top continuously hiding it . i have enjoyed playing the deck though the blue skew makes it feel like a MUC deck trying to hide behind Geist who is yelling "LOOK VOLTRON"
You also have two number 79s.
As far as budget goes, I only have the resources to put like $20 on any single card. I get most of my more expensive cards by trading, but I don't have the level of stuff to trade for Mana Drain, FoW, Duals, Jace, etc. I don't want to go the combo route as my meta is pretty relaxed compared to yours (from what I've read in your Damia thread anyway). I just love the draw-go playstyle with being able to sit on a full hand and do most of your actions at instant speed on opponents turns. I figured Geist would work pretty well because once he comes down he is hard to get rid of, so I can just control the board and protect him until he finishes the job.
I have some of the moderately expensive cards like all the Swords, several of the fetches, and Pact of Negation, but there are about $1300 worth of cards that I don't have, and I don't want to spend more than about $100 (plus whatever I can get from trading).
As far as budget goes, I only have the resources to put like $20 on any single card. I get most of my more expensive cards by trading, but I don't have the level of stuff to trade for Mana Drain, FoW, Duals, Jace, etc. I don't want to go the combo route as my meta is pretty relaxed compared to yours (from what I've read in your Damia thread anyway). I just love the draw-go playstyle with being able to sit on a full hand and do most of your actions at instant speed on opponents turns. I figured Geist would work pretty well because once he comes down he is hard to get rid of, so I can just control the board and protect him until he finishes the job.
I have some of the moderately expensive cards like all the Swords, several of the fetches, and Pact of Negation, but there are about $1300 worth of cards that I don't have, and I don't want to spend more than about $100 (plus whatever I can get from trading).
Yea itrs only 4 plains i have wokr in like 4 hours so i need to got o sleep but ill brainstorm or you tomorrow on budget options however i feel the free counter magic is pretty crucial to this play-style im sure cheap counters would work to some extent
Did you get a chance to work on anything yet? I sort of want to build a UWR control deck, but I don't really like Zedruu or Ruhan, and my group doesn't want me to play Numot because they thing I will turn it into a land destruction deck and we are a fairly casual group when it comes to stuff like that, so I may be forced to stick with just UW, in which case I would probably choose Geist, especially since he benefits from the new legend rule.
Also you may want to fix the title where you spelled Geist wrong.
No I have g but today the widens kids are gone so I'll play some with this on mtgo still thinking of more budgeted options but so far I'm favoring just using differnt cards that are still quality my main concerns is you need the pitch spells here since we keep our hand topped off I mean I win most my gamers off the back of Force if will so far.
Tezz and vault are good artifact lands are just a liability . Pretty sure mire is flood plain. Always a full grip and vault awesome for fast big draws off BSZ Revalation stroke or just to slam a permant mama ramp like lotus. If anything the deck needs a couple more counters though I'm
Not sure witch as I'd just want more force of wills .... Lol
Your the only one left with cards. In a compeitive setting abuse the time warp to go infinte. The deck is very fun if you like control play it on mtgo and have just slipped it up for my not noobs but not hermit Druid level of compeitive tables though I'm sure the deck could have quite a bit of fun at those tables but probly wins too slow in that meta to have a good win%. Without further ado the list
2 Mana Crypt
3 Mox Diamond
4 Mana Vault
5 Sol Ring
6 Land Tax
7 Tithe
8 Grim Monolith
9 Talismen of progress
10 Saphire Medalion
11 Crucible of Worlds
12 Gilded Lotus
13 Brainstorm
14 Ponder
15 Sensei's Divining Top
16 Scroll Rack
17 Rhystic Study
18 Fact or Fiction
18 Jace The Mindsculptor
20 Tamiyo the Moon Sage
21 Opportunity
22 Consecrated Sphinx
23 Recuring Insight
24 Stroke of Genious
25 Sphinx's Revalation
26 Blue Sun's Zenith
27 Pact of Negation
28 Counterspell
29 Mana Drain
30 Counterbalance
31 Hinder
32 Venser Shaper Savant
33 Cryptic Command
34 Misdirection
35 Force of Will
36 Commandeer
38 Supreme Verdict
39 Devastation Tide
40 Evacuation
41 Swords to Plowshares
42 Path to Exile
43 Capsize
44 Return to Dust
45 Enlightened Tutor
46 Mystical Tutor
47 Merchant Scroll
48 Stoneforge Mystic
49 Intuition
50 Tezzeret The Seeker
51 Aven Mindcensor
52 Sun Titan
53 Snapcaster Mage
54 Archeomancer
55 Restoration Angel
56 Steel of the Godhead
57 Sword of Fire and Ice
58 Sword of Feast and Famine
59 Sword of War and Peace
60 Elspeth Knight Errant
61 Bribery
62 Temporal Manipulation
63 Avacyn Angel of Hope
64 Kozilek Butcher of Truth
65 academy ruins
66 reliquary tower
67 kor haven
68 boseiju who shelters all
69 riptide laboratory
70 calciform pools
71 tundra
72 hallowed fountain
73 mystic gate
74 glacial fortress
75 azorious chancery
76 strip mine
77 wasteland
78 command tower
79 poluted delta
80 misty rainforest
81 scalding tarn
82 flooded strand
83 arid mesa
84 bloodstained mire
85 windswept Heath
86 Cavern of Souls
87 Tolaria West
9 islands
4 plains
Feel free to make suggestions always looking to improve my decks.
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
LD effects are very strong in this deck i intentionally stayed away from Armageddon for 2 reasons 1 because if it was in their I Would tutor it all too often and this is tutor light package so every tutor that could hit it would. Number 2 i already play enough mana rocks once you play geddon effects you start to feel like you want 20 mana rocks to feel optimized and every tutor and ld effect you can get. Being someone who must have an optimized strategy i strayed away from that. That being said i think its impossible to ride A card that does 4 normal damage and 2 commander damage to victory without the other cards doing it for you. He can however do enough damage and quite quickly with some help to create massive card advantage and card quality by forcing opponents hands ( Multiple times since he is so cheap initially ) And then finishing the game off for you with the help of an enchant or sword or large friend like avacyn. giest has always been amazing draw go type commander in 1v1 He is here too. Reguardless you should build him however you want hes really fun to play. Last game i played was like 14 turns on mtgo. I held off double Serra ascendants by myself. Quickly drew a ton of cards with recurring insight Politcally used intuition to wrath 2 other players with massive boards that i had run out of ways to bounce and stall out. pop a massive Sphin'x revelation adn the entire time im keeping geist out and watching him absorb removal blinking him in response to target removal from player with gleeming w/e it is that lets you target hexproof. Doing enough damage to force them to play in ways which lets me continue to remove threats and bury tghem in CA. By turn 14 i had prbly taken 50 damage but i was at 47 life with an avacyn out holding a war in peace and a restoration angel with a steel of the godhead holding a Full grip of counters looking at the 23 cards left in my deck the other guy has lands in top deck mode. Giest is alot of fun hope you enjoy him !
Op Updated
-Route
- Azorius Signet
+ Counterbalence
+ Scroll Rack
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
Also tips for making it more budget friendly? I entered it on deckbox and the cost is like $1700.
GUB [Retired Primer] The Mimeoplasm BUG
Modern: UR Storm RU
Cube: WUBRG Pauper Cube GRBUW
Credit for the banner goes to DarkNightCavalier at Heroes of the Plane Studios
101? where did i miscount i see 18 18 20 which im about to edit but thats about it.
As for budget options i mean the first thign would be cut expensive cards for preordain and impulse. after that if you cant afford the a land or 2 basics are fine in 2 colors. If you dont own a Force of will buy one ... but seriously the deck needs the pitch counters taht why it has so many large draw effects. infact my next suggestion is replace the next cards you cant afford with thirst for knowledge Jace's ingeinuty instant speed draw or simply extra counters like Arcane Denial or Dissmiss . Being light on spot removal Cards like Dismantling Blow are fine. If you want to combo off there is Guile + Dovescape or Enchanted Evening Aura Thief i liked that better in ertai. If you play black every staple tutor that you own can eat a card slot but i personally cant look at the esper color pie without going hmm this should just be a a ad naus Shrooom deck ><! I really like just playing draw go poping a mystical tutoring with a counter balence out to counter a spell and grab my next card . you can do some cool stuff like brainstorm or jace down the devsation tide with top out and save it for instant speed off of top continuously hiding it . i have enjoyed playing the deck though the blue skew makes it feel like a MUC deck trying to hide behind Geist who is yelling "LOOK VOLTRON"
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
You also have two number 79s.
As far as budget goes, I only have the resources to put like $20 on any single card. I get most of my more expensive cards by trading, but I don't have the level of stuff to trade for Mana Drain, FoW, Duals, Jace, etc. I don't want to go the combo route as my meta is pretty relaxed compared to yours (from what I've read in your Damia thread anyway). I just love the draw-go playstyle with being able to sit on a full hand and do most of your actions at instant speed on opponents turns. I figured Geist would work pretty well because once he comes down he is hard to get rid of, so I can just control the board and protect him until he finishes the job.
I have some of the moderately expensive cards like all the Swords, several of the fetches, and Pact of Negation, but there are about $1300 worth of cards that I don't have, and I don't want to spend more than about $100 (plus whatever I can get from trading).
GUB [Retired Primer] The Mimeoplasm BUG
Modern: UR Storm RU
Cube: WUBRG Pauper Cube GRBUW
Credit for the banner goes to DarkNightCavalier at Heroes of the Plane Studios
Yea itrs only 4 plains i have wokr in like 4 hours so i need to got o sleep but ill brainstorm or you tomorrow on budget options however i feel the free counter magic is pretty crucial to this play-style im sure cheap counters would work to some extent
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
GUB [Retired Primer] The Mimeoplasm BUG
Modern: UR Storm RU
Cube: WUBRG Pauper Cube GRBUW
Credit for the banner goes to DarkNightCavalier at Heroes of the Plane Studios
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
Also you may want to fix the title where you spelled Geist wrong.
GUB [Retired Primer] The Mimeoplasm BUG
Modern: UR Storm RU
Cube: WUBRG Pauper Cube GRBUW
Credit for the banner goes to DarkNightCavalier at Heroes of the Plane Studios
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429
Also, Bloodstained Mire doesn't really do anything in a u/w deck.
GWUBAtraxa, Praetor's Voice PrimerGWUB
GWURoon Bant Blink WhateverGWU
BRGLord Windgrace LandsBRG
Not sure witch as I'd just want more force of wills .... Lol
Damia http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=410191
DDFT Legacyhttp://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=505247
Domain Zoo http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10212429#post10212429