Hey, this is a deck I just recently assembled and enjoy quite a bit. It's B/W control with the ability for a combo-finish. When I originally began building it was going to be a lifelink themed deck but my instincts made it a control deck.
and some of the cheaper/easier to acquire taxing cards.
The best way to play this is to sit back and assemble a wall of protection via creatures or enchantments and play the political game. Take out key threats that the table might be having difficulty with and keep your life total in a non-threatening range. While your opponents are at each other's throats you can drop Vish Kal, and if your lucky play Storm Herd the following turn to wipe out an opponent.
Funny Story: So tonight I played a game with some guys that were at the LGS (Krenko, Kaalia and Sedris). I was the only one not running red. Turn 6 I beacon of unrest up Avatar of Slaughter, this nearly backfires on me when Kaalia hits me for 28. I managed to survive via Ghostly Prison and Sphere. When it was down to Krenko and me, he paid the tax to attack with a creature then passed. I dropped Massacre Wurm and he died...alot.
For Lists, Click Here EDH: GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU. UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax RW: Gisela, Boros Control RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?! B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
Yeah I've been staring at the thrull since I slapped this together. I'm having trouble figuring out what to cut for it. Obedience is on my list of tax/stax cards to get a hold of. Any suggestions?
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For Lists, Click Here EDH: GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU. UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax RW: Gisela, Boros Control RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?! B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
Yeah I've been staring at the thrull since I slapped this together. I'm having trouble figuring out what to cut for it. Obedience is on my list of tax/stax cards to get a hold of. Any suggestions?
Thalia? She just seems out of place since it doesn't appear that you're trying to tax your opponents to the point of not being able to cast anything (like GAAIV), so paying 1 doesn't do much.
Good point cryo. I really like Thalia but she does seem a bit too fragile and unsupported in the deck. The best I can hope for is to have her and Chancellor out for a +2 casting tax but that is kinda bleh in this build. I'll cut her and add in Thrull.
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For Lists, Click Here EDH: GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU. UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax RW: Gisela, Boros Control RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?! B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
Nim Deathmantle - This is a really excellent piece of equipment! Reanimates your guys all day long.
Illusionist's Bracers - I haven't seen this used in any other Vish Kal lists yet... But it should be! It doubles both of Vish Kal's abilities! You end up with potentially four times more effect per sacrificed creature!
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You've got several ways of making things cost more for everyone, which in my experience tends to tick people off and get them gunning for you. I see those cards more in stax/tax type builds that break the symmetry, yet you still have some expensive spells that fall victim to your own limitations. Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, Bitterblossom, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, etc can help build you advantage as they keep making dudes despite the limitations you set out.
Curious as to a typical game with this deck, beginning game, mid-game, and late game. BW control is a big interest of mine, so I'd love to hear more about how it plays out.
@IronRadiant: Thanks for the input. I did add in Mikaeus, Trike and Guildmage. I have been considering adding in Butcher.
@Kraus: Imperial Mask is what I had on hand, and on occasion my group plays 2HG EDH when we get new or returning players that need a hand getting into the game. I have been looking for the Aura for a week, I know I have a bunch but with the way the deck plays ATM it would hurt more than help the plan. Sorin and Elspeth will be going in when I get them, I have stepped away from most of the stax cards except for Prison and Sphere.
The deck is meant to be played politically in most cases. I don't know if you're familiar with Antonio DeRosa's B/W control list from the Kami-Rav pro tour, but it plays alot like that.
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For Lists, Click Here EDH: GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU. UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax RW: Gisela, Boros Control RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?! B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
For Lists, Click Here EDH: GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU. UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax RW: Gisela, Boros Control RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?! B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
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The List:
Land:
8 Plains
15 Swamp
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Orzhov Guildgate
1 Isolated Chapel
1 Caves of Koilos
1 Orzhova, the Church of Deals
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Kor Haven
1 Temple of the False God
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Vault of the Archangel
1 Reliquary Tower
Creatures:
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Chancellor of the Annex
1 Adarkar Valkyrie
1 Windborn Muse
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Bloodgift Demon
1 Massacre Wurm
1 Sunblast Angel
1 Necrotic Sliver
1 Grave Titan
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Attrition
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Suppression Field
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Sphere of Safety
1 Grave Pact
1 Martyr's Bond
1 Underworld Connections
1 Imperial Mask
1 Luminarch Ascension
Artifact:
1 Phyrexian Altar
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Ivory Tower
1 Norn's Annex
1 Staff of Nin
1 Sol Ring
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Feroz's Ban
1 Orzhov Signet
Instant:
1 Swords of Plowshares
1 Condemn
1 Path to Exile
1 Mortify
1 Unmake
1 Murder
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Geth's Verdict
1 Return to Dust
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Beseech the Queen
1 Increasing Ambition
1 Promise of Power
1 Terashi's Grasp
1 Storm Herd
1 Beacon of Unrest
1 Mind Shatter
1 Persecute
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Austere Command
1 Day of Judgement
1 Wrath of God
1 Terminus
1 Decree of Pain
Planeswalker:
1 Sorin Markov
1 Liliana Vess
1 Karn Liberated
I do have a list of cards to acquire for the deck such as:
and some of the cheaper/easier to acquire taxing cards.
The best way to play this is to sit back and assemble a wall of protection via creatures or enchantments and play the political game. Take out key threats that the table might be having difficulty with and keep your life total in a non-threatening range. While your opponents are at each other's throats you can drop Vish Kal, and if your lucky play Storm Herd the following turn to wipe out an opponent.
Changes:
-1 Thalia +1 Demonic Tutor
-1 Terashi's Grasp +1 Yawgmoth's Will
-1 Persecute
+1 Rule of Law
-1 Murder +1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
-1 Feroz's Ban +1 Triskelion
-1 Nihil Spellbomb +1 Viskopa Guildmage
-1 Relic of Progenitus +1 Painful Quandry
-1 Windborn Muse +1 Chomatic Lantern
-1 Faith's Fetters +1 Sepulchral Primordial
-1 Suppression Field +1 Luminate Primordial
-1 Adarkar Valkyrie +1 Treasury Thrull
Win Record:
Multiplayer: 2HG 2-1, FFA 4-1
1v1: 1-1
Funny Story: So tonight I played a game with some guys that were at the LGS (Krenko, Kaalia and Sedris). I was the only one not running red. Turn 6 I beacon of unrest up Avatar of Slaughter, this nearly backfires on me when Kaalia hits me for 28. I managed to survive via Ghostly Prison and Sphere. When it was down to Krenko and me, he paid the tax to attack with a creature then passed. I dropped Massacre Wurm and he died...alot.
For Lists, Click Here
EDH:
GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU.
UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat
BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation
UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery
RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven
UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron
BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax
RW: Gisela, Boros Control
RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck
RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?!
B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed
R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
Misc. EDH Stuff: Commander Cube | Zombies (Horde)
Resources:Commander Rulings FAQ | Commander Deckbuilding Guide
Follow me on Twitter! @cryogen_mtg
For Lists, Click Here
EDH:
GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU.
UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat
BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation
UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery
RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven
UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron
BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax
RW: Gisela, Boros Control
RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck
RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?!
B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed
R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
Thalia? She just seems out of place since it doesn't appear that you're trying to tax your opponents to the point of not being able to cast anything (like GAAIV), so paying 1 doesn't do much.
Misc. EDH Stuff: Commander Cube | Zombies (Horde)
Resources:Commander Rulings FAQ | Commander Deckbuilding Guide
Follow me on Twitter! @cryogen_mtg
For Lists, Click Here
EDH:
GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU.
UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat
BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation
UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery
RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven
UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron
BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax
RW: Gisela, Boros Control
RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck
RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?!
B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed
R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
A few suggestions I would make,
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed - Creates a really great infinite combo with Vish Kal. Kills all your opponent's creatures dead.
Butcher of Malakir - Another Grave Pact effect, especially one that can be easily reanimated in our colours, is always cool.
Vizkopa Guildmage - This card is really good value when your commander has lifelink. Serious advantage here!
Unburial Rites - Reanimation with flashback. Brilliant.
Nim Deathmantle - This is a really excellent piece of equipment! Reanimates your guys all day long.
Illusionist's Bracers - I haven't seen this used in any other Vish Kal lists yet... But it should be! It doubles both of Vish Kal's abilities! You end up with potentially four times more effect per sacrificed creature!
Aura of Silence would serve your deck/plan well. Good with Sun Titan as are a lot of your cards, like Oblivion Ring.
You've got several ways of making things cost more for everyone, which in my experience tends to tick people off and get them gunning for you. I see those cards more in stax/tax type builds that break the symmetry, yet you still have some expensive spells that fall victim to your own limitations. Sorin, Lord of Innistrad, Bitterblossom, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, etc can help build you advantage as they keep making dudes despite the limitations you set out.
Curious as to a typical game with this deck, beginning game, mid-game, and late game. BW control is a big interest of mine, so I'd love to hear more about how it plays out.
WUBRG Some of these decks can actually win games...WUBRG
How I know I should build a deck:
@Kraus: Imperial Mask is what I had on hand, and on occasion my group plays 2HG EDH when we get new or returning players that need a hand getting into the game. I have been looking for the Aura for a week, I know I have a bunch but with the way the deck plays ATM it would hurt more than help the plan. Sorin and Elspeth will be going in when I get them, I have stepped away from most of the stax cards except for Prison and Sphere.
The deck is meant to be played politically in most cases. I don't know if you're familiar with Antonio DeRosa's B/W control list from the Kami-Rav pro tour, but it plays alot like that.
For Lists, Click Here
EDH:
GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU.
UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat
BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation
UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery
RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven
UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron
BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax
RW: Gisela, Boros Control
RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck
RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?!
B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed
R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
Note: Obzedat, Ghost Council + Mikey + Sac outlet = funny as all hell in a 3 man game.
Updated List:
1 Transguild Promenade
1 Rupture Spire
1 Isolated Chapel
1 Ozhov Guildgate
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Command Tower
1 Caves of Koilos
1 Temple of the False God
1 Mistveil Plains
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Rogue's Passage
1 Orzhova, the Church of Deals
1 Kor Haven
1 Vault of the Archangel
8 Plains
13 Swamp
Artifact Mana:
1 Sol Ring
1 Chromatic Lantern
1 Orzhov Signet
1 Darksteel Ingot
Utility Artifacts:
1 Ivory Tower
1 Staff of Nin
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Phyrexian Altar
1 Reito Lantern
1 Sorin Markov
1 Gideon, Champion of Justice
1 Karn Liberated
1 Liliana Vess
Enchantments:
1 Exquisite Blood
1 Sphere of Safety
1 Ghostly Prison
1 Luminarch Ascension
1 Grave Pact
1 Martyr's Bond
1 Attrition
1 Underworld Connections
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Imperial Mask
1 Oblivion Ring
Creature:
1 Luminate Primordial
1 Sepulchral Primordial
1 Obzedat, Ghost Council
1 Massacre Wurm
1 Grave Titan
1 Treasury Thrull
1 Necrotic Sliver
1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed
1 Vizkopa Guildmage
1 Wurmcoil Engine
1 Triskelion
1 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Day of Judgement
1 Wrath of God
1 Austere Command
1 Decree of Pain
1 Black Sun's Zenith
1 Terminus
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Beseech the Queen
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Increasing Ambition
1 Promise of Power
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Beacon of Unrest
1 Storm Herd
Instants:
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Geth's Verdict
1 Path to Exile
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Condemn
1 Return to Dust
1 Mortify
1 Unmake
1 Beacon of Immortality
*Placeholders for Godless Shrine and a theoretical Scrubland.
I added BoI to the list for another interaction with Vizkopa Guildmage.
For Lists, Click Here
EDH:
GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU.
UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat
BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation
UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery
RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven
UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron
BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax
RW: Gisela, Boros Control
RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck
RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?!
B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed
R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering