So, my first deck ever when i started playing Magic was a mono W kithkin (actually UW but all the U cost where hybrid mana), which today is still my favourite deck which i love to play in casual matches. I started buying singles of the kithkins i didn't have, just to build a collection and that's when i thought "wait a minute! i can transform this in a EDH deck!"
why Bruna? well..i needed a UW general, i have her and i don't use her in other decks and angels are my second favourite tribe. still this is a kith kin deck, not a bruna deck, so i'm not building around her at all.
Huey, Dewey and Louie are always dressed in RUG. it is CLEARLY going to be the wedges block Pioneer: WURFaerie fires BRGDragons ModernBGElves WRBurn UR Fires Turns URGift Storm UG Twiddle Storm
This deck is in dire need of card draw. Without it, you'll zerg someone down to 25 and then get blown away by EDH-power-level cards (e.g. mass removal, fat creatures that do things). Off the top of my head, some options are:
Also, it looks like the mana base could use work. I'm sensing a budget here, but there are plenty of ways to fix mana and get extra value out of your lands without breaking the bank:
Why did you choose Bruna as your general? GAAIV could actually help your Kithkin army by speeding up your spells and slowing down your opponents' ones.
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wizened Cenn not being in the list is just a mistake, she's obviouslly in!and also 30 lands was a typo (i posted this list when i was half asleep...
very good advice for the general, i might swap to him later on (this deck is in the budget section for a reason )
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Huey, Dewey and Louie are always dressed in RUG. it is CLEARLY going to be the wedges block Pioneer: WURFaerie fires BRGDragons ModernBGElves WRBurn UR Fires Turns URGift Storm UG Twiddle Storm
Even though this is a Kithkin deck and not a Bruna deck, it wouldn't hurt to run some auras more since she's already there anyways. Fool's Demise and indestructibility, for example, isn't terrible to make some of your kithkin survive wraths, and are just winning with her.
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What if I switch to monoW and use Brigid as the general?
That would solve any mana base issue (dropping the cost too)
I'd just have to cut a few kithkins (I was already not using the WG ones anyway) freeing some spots for some of the other things you guys suggested
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Huey, Dewey and Louie are always dressed in RUG. it is CLEARLY going to be the wedges block Pioneer: WURFaerie fires BRGDragons ModernBGElves WRBurn UR Fires Turns URGift Storm UG Twiddle Storm
What if I switch to monoW and use Brigid as the general?
That would solve any mana base issue (dropping the cost too)
I'd just have to cut a few kithkins (I was already not using the WG ones anyway) freeing some spots for some of the other things you guys suggested
That's not a bad idea, but your mana base isn't that bad. Cutting a few basics for stuff like Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Azorius Chancery, Sejiri Refuge and VividLands makes a decent and affordable mana base.
Also keep in mind that if you swap to mono-white you'll have either to rely on artifacts for card draw (Caged Sun, Illuminated Folio, Candles of Leng, Mask of Memory) or build a fast aggro deck which doesn't rely on draw.
Overall the best thing that would come from swapping from Bruna to Brigid would be you having a general that actually works with your deck.
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build a fast aggro deck which doesn't rely on draw.
having a general that actually works with your deck.
this i think is the way to go. i know in edh being faithful to your theme is more important than in other formats, and for me in particular this is always important. so here's a new list
there are still 7 slots to fill, any idea? something to give deathtouch to Brigid would be good
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Huey, Dewey and Louie are always dressed in RUG. it is CLEARLY going to be the wedges block Pioneer: WURFaerie fires BRGDragons ModernBGElves WRBurn UR Fires Turns URGift Storm UG Twiddle Storm
I wrote an enormous post full of suggestions and the reasons, but accidentaly deleted everything. So, here's a quick list of suggestions for you to consider. Tried to keep everything into a Lorwyn-Shadowmoor Kithkin theme.
Creatures:Twilight Shepherd (helps your deck on not dying to mass removal), Archangel of Strife (anthem on a body, could help your opponents more than you).
thanks a lot, some of this artifacts are awesome!!!
also what about equipping Brigid with a Sword of Kaldras? seems good
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Huey, Dewey and Louie are always dressed in RUG. it is CLEARLY going to be the wedges block Pioneer: WURFaerie fires BRGDragons ModernBGElves WRBurn UR Fires Turns URGift Storm UG Twiddle Storm
Shared Triumph, while not exactly kithkin related, does stick with the kithkin togetherness commune-y theme. And for something out of left field you could try Kithkin Armor.
thanks a lot, some of this artifacts are awesome!!!
also what about equipping Brigid with a Sword of Kaldras? seems good
Indeed, it seems very good. Besides all the exiling it pumps her to 7 power, which is just enough to kill in 3 hits.
Use a Remember the Fallen along with it for some CA.
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Theme is great and all, but if you want your deck to succeed, you need more going on than a bunch of tiny creatures. Most importantly, you want the creatures you do play to be good. Playing a sub-par creature just because it fits within a deck's theme or tribe is just unwise. You'd be better off with a card that will actually propel you toward a win. A number of your Kithkin don't do that, or do so less well than would a good enchantment, sorcery or piece of equipment.
Solemn Simulator has mentioned several good possibilities already (though I would avoid Archangel of Strife). Here's another to consider: Mass Calcify.
You're looking to run mono-white. Board sweep that misses your guys seems potentially good.
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why Bruna? well..i needed a UW general, i have her and i don't use her in other decks and angels are my second favourite tribe. still this is a kith kin deck, not a bruna deck, so i'm not building around her at all.
the list
1 Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Creatures
1 Apothecary Initiate
1 Augury Adept
1 Ballynock Cohort
1 Ballynock Trapper
1 Ballyrush Banneret
1 Barrenton Cragtreads
1 Barrenton Medic
1 Battletide Alchemist
1 Brigid, Hero of Kinsbaile
1 Burrenton Bombardier
1 Burrenton Forge-Tender
1 Burrenton Shield-Bearers
1 Cenn's Heir
1 Cenn's Tactician
1 Galepowder Mage
1 Goldmeadow Dodger
1 Goldmeadow Harrier
1 Goldmeadow Lookout
1 Goldmeadow Stalwart
1 Kinsbaile Balloonist
1 Kinsbaile Borderguard
1 Kinsbaile Cavalier
1 Kinsbaile Skirmisher
1 Kinscaer Harpoonist
1 Kithkin Greatheart
1 Kithkin Harbinger
1 Kithkin Healer
1 Kithkin Rabble
1 Kithkin Shielddare
1 Kithkin Spellduster
1 Kithkin Zealot
1 Kithkin Zephyrnaut
1 Knight of Meadowgrain
1 Mistmeadow Skulk
1 Mistmeadow Witch
1 Mosquito Guard
1 Order of the Golden Cricket
1 Order of Whiteclay
1 Patrol Signaler
1 Plover Knights
1 Preeminent Captain
1 Resplendent Mentor
1 Somnomancer
1 Springjack Knight
1 Springjack Shepherd
1 Thistledown Duo
1 Thistledown Liege
1 Thoughtweft Trio
1 Zealous Guardian
1 Cloudgoat Ranger
1 Ajani Goldmane
Spells
1 Battle Mastery
1 Mirrorweave
1 Cenn's Enlistment
1 Militia's Pride
1 Surge of Thoughtweft
1 Thoughtweft Gambit
1 Repel Intruders
1 Crib Swap
1 Shields of Velis Vel
1 Runed Halo
1 Light from Within
1 Steel of the Godhead
Lands
10 Island
16 Plains
1 Glacial Fortress
1 Cloudcrest Lake
1 Mirrodin's Core
1 Shimmering Grotto
For the Shire!!!
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I cannot find any artifact or enchantment removal. This will come back to bite you.
Try running playing cards that give all of your guys +1/+1. They are cheap, easy to find, and can turn even the smallest kithkin into a threat.
Wizened Cenn may be the best kithkin tribal card, but it isn't in your list.
EDH - Ghave, Guru of Spores
EDH - Rafiq of the Many
EDH - Roon of the Hidden Realm
Also, it looks like the mana base could use work. I'm sensing a budget here, but there are plenty of ways to fix mana and get extra value out of your lands without breaking the bank:
Pauper: UR some horrible homebrew izzet deck
very good advice for the general, i might swap to him later on (this deck is in the budget section for a reason )
Pioneer: WURFaerie fires BRGDragons
ModernBGElves WRBurn UR Fires Turns URGift Storm UG Twiddle Storm
Pauper: UR some horrible homebrew izzet deck
That would solve any mana base issue (dropping the cost too)
I'd just have to cut a few kithkins (I was already not using the WG ones anyway) freeing some spots for some of the other things you guys suggested
Pioneer: WURFaerie fires BRGDragons
ModernBGElves WRBurn UR Fires Turns URGift Storm UG Twiddle Storm
That's not a bad idea, but your mana base isn't that bad. Cutting a few basics for stuff like Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Azorius Chancery, Sejiri Refuge and Vivid Lands makes a decent and affordable mana base.
Also keep in mind that if you swap to mono-white you'll have either to rely on artifacts for card draw (Caged Sun, Illuminated Folio, Candles of Leng, Mask of Memory) or build a fast aggro deck which doesn't rely on draw.
Overall the best thing that would come from swapping from Bruna to Brigid would be you having a general that actually works with your deck.
Pauper: UR some horrible homebrew izzet deck
this i think is the way to go. i know in edh being faithful to your theme is more important than in other formats, and for me in particular this is always important. so here's a new list
1 Apothecary Initiate
1 Ballynock Cohort
1 Ballynock Trapper
1 Ballyrush Banneret
1 Barrenton Medic
1 Battletide Alchemist
1 Burrenton Bombardier
1 Burrenton Forge-Tender
1 Burrenton Shield-Bearers
1 Cenn's Heir
1 Cenn's Tactician
1 Galepowder Mage
1 Goldmeadow Dodger
1 Goldmeadow Harrier
1 Goldmeadow Lookout
1 Goldmeadow Stalwart
1 Kinsbaile Balloonist
1 Kinsbaile Borderguard
1 Kinsbaile Cavalier
1 Kinsbaile Skirmisher
1 Kithkin Greatheart
1 Kithkin Harbinger
1 Kithkin Healer
1 Kithkin Rabble
1 Kithkin Shielddare
1 Kithkin Spellduster
1 Kithkin Zealot
1 Kithkin Zephyrnaut
1 Knight of Meadowgrain
1 Mistmeadow Skulk
1 Mosquito Guard
1 Order of the Golden Cricket
1 Order of Whiteclay
1 Patrol Signaler
1 Plover Knights
1 Preeminent Captain
1 Resplendent Mentor
1 Springjack Knight
1 Springjack Shepherd
1 Thoughtweft Trio
1 Wizened Cenn
1 Cloudgoat Ranger
1 Battle Mastery
1 Crib Swap
1 Runed Halo
1 Light from Within
1 Graceful Reprieve
1 Pollen Lullaby
1 Banishing Stroke
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Surge of Thoughtweft
1 Militia's Pride
1 Cenn's Enlistment
38 Plains
there are still 7 slots to fill, any idea? something to give deathtouch to Brigid would be good
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Brigid + Basilisk Collar is a deadly combo.
Bridgid is also great with Loxodon Warhammer.
You might find the new Ajani more useful than Goldmane.
Some of the artifact card draw and anthem options others listed above would be a very good idea.
Creatures: Twilight Shepherd (helps your deck on not dying to mass removal), Archangel of Strife (anthem on a body, could help your opponents more than you).
Generic Artifacts: Door of Destinies (one of the best anthem-like effects in Lorwyn), Rings of Brighthearth (works with Brigid, Order of Whiteclay, Goldmeadow Lookout, etc), Thoushand-Year Elixir 0also works with Brigid).
Equipment: Ring of Thune (so Brigid can attack and clear blockers at the same time), Swiftfoot Boots (generally useful equipment), Veteran's Armaments (could be deadly with a horde of Kithkin), Explorer's Scope (great acceleration for weenie decks).
Mana: Marble Diamond and other generic mana rocks, Sol Ring (great flavor), Springleaf Drum (possible enabler for untap abilities).
What to Cut: Kithkin Greatheart and other bad creatures.
Pauper: UR some horrible homebrew izzet deck
also what about equipping Brigid with a Sword of Kaldras? seems good
Pioneer: WURFaerie fires BRGDragons
ModernBGElves WRBurn UR Fires Turns URGift Storm UG Twiddle Storm
Indeed, it seems very good. Besides all the exiling it pumps her to 7 power, which is just enough to kill in 3 hits.
Use a Remember the Fallen along with it for some CA.
Pauper: UR some horrible homebrew izzet deck
This.
Theme is great and all, but if you want your deck to succeed, you need more going on than a bunch of tiny creatures. Most importantly, you want the creatures you do play to be good. Playing a sub-par creature just because it fits within a deck's theme or tribe is just unwise. You'd be better off with a card that will actually propel you toward a win. A number of your Kithkin don't do that, or do so less well than would a good enchantment, sorcery or piece of equipment.
Solemn Simulator has mentioned several good possibilities already (though I would avoid Archangel of Strife). Here's another to consider: Mass Calcify.
You're looking to run mono-white. Board sweep that misses your guys seems potentially good.