Mono black all but requires Sorin Markov, for the game ending swings. also Necrotic Ooze but not Pili-Pala/Palladium Myr infinite colored mana shenanigans? Cast your Exsanguinate for ∞, win the game?
Mono black all but requires Sorin Markov, for the game ending swings.
I always start mono black with Sorin in the deck but He's always 1 of the 1st things I cut so I just didn't bother this time.
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also Necrotic Ooze but not Pili-Pala/Palladium Myr infinite colored mana shenanigans? Cast your Exsanguinate for ∞, win the game?
Necrotic Ooze got put in as a gap filler. I'm actually going to cut it when I figure out what I put in that spot. I can still do infinite mana Exsanguinate anyway so I think I can get away with not having it.
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Looks ok all in all.
Though:
- I'd cut the gilded lotus, in mono color it just doesn't seem to be worth it, especially regarding how quickly it gets killed
- I'd add gate to phyrexia
- I'd add journeyer's kite
I like the Lotus. I find at the tables I play at there are usually better things to kill so it gets left alone.
I'm not a fan of Journeyer's Kite. Liliana can do the same thing for Me without using My mana
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- now this is a matter of preferences I guess, but it does seem to me that like a HUUUUGE part of your deck consists of nothing but tutors. Now, tutors are great, but: for each tutor in your deck, you are removing one card, that could actually do something itself. the more tutors, the fewer tutor targets you have. which means the more tutors you have, the more you are forced to tutor, because you keep drawing tutors instead of the cards you'd need. which would be fine, if it wouldn't slow you down, because those tutors cost mana.
just for example: if you have like originally 4 cards in your deck that can kill enchantments, and you replace two of them with tutors, then you have the same chance to get those enchantment killers, though you are slower, because you have to pay more mana. and, without recursion, you can only kill two enchantments, instead of four as originally
Interesting theory. 1 of the things I love about mono black is being able to run a million tutors. I understand the slow down factor You're talking about and I think it's an acceptable thing to have so many chances of being able to find the cards You need as You need them
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I always start mono black with Sorin in the deck but He's always 1 of the 1st things I cut so I just didn't bother this time.
Necrotic Ooze got put in as a gap filler. I'm actually going to cut it when I figure out what I put in that spot. I can still do infinite mana Exsanguinate anyway so I think I can get away with not having it.
I like the Lotus. I find at the tables I play at there are usually better things to kill so it gets left alone.
I like Gate to Phyrexia. I'll add 1 if I can find 1.
I'm not a fan of Journeyer's Kite. Liliana can do the same thing for Me without using My mana
Interesting theory. 1 of the things I love about mono black is being able to run a million tutors. I understand the slow down factor You're talking about and I think it's an acceptable thing to have so many chances of being able to find the cards You need as You need them