This deck is going to be for multiplayer, budget, casual, edh.
The primary theme I'm trying to incorperate is a 'deathtouch' wall of creatures, freezing my opponent from attacking; then applying 'lure' effects to force my opponent to attack. Just to mess around...
Secondary theme is to have my cards with 'creepy', but not 'grotesque' artwork, something worthy to be on the same side as the Damia, Sage of Stone...very 'Vorthos' as Blackjack68 put it.
All my decks try to adhere to these guidelines:
1) Be able to win.
2) Be mostly true to a flavor and a theme.
3) Be good against one or multiple opponents.
5) Be fun to pilot or to play against and interactive.
6) Have multiple paths to victory.
7) Have lots of cool interactions and synergy.
8) Play out differently every game to keep it fun over a long time.
9) Be streamlined and fast to play without excessive upkeep, time-consuming play or overcomplicated boardstates.
10) Integrate the Commanders abilities into the strategy at least a little, but be able to win without ever playing the commander.
Note #1: The number in front of the card will denote CMC of the creature/spell.
Note #2: Our meta plays with 40 life totals and no general damage. This obviously affects potential strategies one can have within the format.
Note #3: (ntby) = need to buy yet
Any suggestions, comments, and questions are more than welcome! Especially in regards to the cuts I should make, since I'm starting off by listing cards that simply look good.
Death-Hood Cobra? The extra cost for reach/deathtouch are a little lame, but I'm loving the snake theme.
There most certainly is a tribal mix in this build.
I strive to keep Gorgons at the top, followed closely by Treefolk. There arn't enough snakes with good abilities for me to focus on. Unfortunately Death-Hood Cobra won't be making the cut, but don't let that deter you from suggesting others.
I'm going to need to augment the blue side of the deck...
Got a few questions about my build that I am hoping to get resolved:
First off, is Damia enough for card draw? (I am strongly assuming no)
Second, I'm looking for 'vorthos' card draw cards/effects but the picking sure seem to be pretty thin. Any recommendations?
To date, in my deck I have: Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Probably the least vorthos card in the deck, but I can't say 'no' to its potency with deathtouch creatures crossing the board. Graveborn Muse: Has 3 zombies (including itself) and 2 effects that turn creatures into zombies to work with. A fragile Phyrexian Arena at best (my arena is in another build...) River Kelpie: With only 4 cards in my deck that generate card draw, I'm not sure if he's worth the slot....more on this later.
To date, cards that I am considering: Ohran Viper: Pseudo Deathtouch and carddraw? Fantastic. Doesn't have the 'vorthos' art, but is a snake. On my wishlist due to cost. Snake Umbra: Totem armour for a deathtouch dude. Draws cards when connects. Not bad, but is an enchantment. (and again....snake) Footbottom Feast/Gravepurge: Recur my deathtouch creatures. It's not draw, but it does grant consistancy. The later is a great deal more vorthos than the former, but both are good.
Thirdly, I'm looking for cuts, as anything I add will require something else to be removed. I find it incredibly difficult to cut items from this list as I am trying to do so based on 'vorthos' qualifiers. Which cards should get the axe, based on their power??? (say top 3-5)
Lastly, I few cards that I have comments/questions about
River Kelpie: This guy fits my 'vorthos' nerve pretty good, but I would like to get more out of him without having to depend on my opponents deckbuilds for abuse. Any recommendations of cards that are cast from or put into play from the graveyard that would niche in with my 'vorthos'ness of the deck???
Thought Gorger: This guy looks incredibly interesting. Might replace Doomgape since Damia can replace my hand quite rapidly. Obviously would work better if I could play more from my graveyard aswell. Also returns card draw to me when removed. Worth considering?
I appriciate any thoughts/comments/questions/etc that others have to offer.
My next general: Damia, Sage of Stone.
This deck is going to be for multiplayer, budget, casual, edh.
The primary theme I'm trying to incorperate is a 'deathtouch' wall of creatures, freezing my opponent from attacking; then applying 'lure' effects to force my opponent to attack. Just to mess around...
Secondary theme is to have my cards with 'creepy', but not 'grotesque' artwork, something worthy to be on the same side as the Damia, Sage of Stone...very 'Vorthos' as Blackjack68 put it.
All my decks try to adhere to these guidelines:
1) Be able to win.
2) Be mostly true to a flavor and a theme.
3) Be good against one or multiple opponents.
5) Be fun to pilot or to play against and interactive.
6) Have multiple paths to victory.
7) Have lots of cool interactions and synergy.
8) Play out differently every game to keep it fun over a long time.
9) Be streamlined and fast to play without excessive upkeep, time-consuming play or overcomplicated boardstates.
10) Integrate the Commanders abilities into the strategy at least a little, but be able to win without ever playing the commander.
Note #1: The number in front of the card will denote CMC of the creature/spell.
Note #2: Our meta plays with 40 life totals and no general damage. This obviously affects potential strategies one can have within the format.
Note #3: (ntby) = need to buy yet
7 Damia, Sage of Stone
The Deathtouch Wall 10
2 Deadly Recluse
2 Thornweald Archer
2 Onyx Mage
2 Tidehollow Strix
3 Stinkweed Imp
3 Turntimber Basilisk
3 Glissa, the Traitor
3 Winged Coatl
5 Sylvan Basilisk
5 Acidic Slime
Utility 10
2 Alluring Siren
2 Shinen of Life's Roar
3 Tempting Licid
3 Edric, Spymaster of Trest
4 Thalakos Deceiver
4 Creakwood Liege
4 Wickerbough Elder
4 Graveborn Muse
5 River Kelpie
6 Deadwood Treefolk
Your Worst Nightmares 9
4 Thought Gorger
5 Sapling of Colfenor
5 Deity of Scars
5 Vulturous Zombie
6 Gleancrawler
7 Engulfing Slagwurm
7 Doomgape
8 Avatar of Woe
8 Sisters of Stone Death
2 Golgari Signet
2 Dimir Signet
2 Simic Signet
3 Cultivate
3 Kodama's Reach
4 Explosive Vegetation
4 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss
4 Reap and Sow
//Buff Spells 10
1 Virulent Swipe
1 Deadly Allure
2 Stitch Together
3 Gravepurge
3 Tower Above
3 Lure
4 Bloodscent
4 Vigor Mortis
5 Rise from the Grave
5 Gift of the Deity
//Control Spells 9
2 Deglamer
2 Naturalize
3 Putrefy
3 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Soul Manipulation
3 Spell Crumple
3 Dream Fracture
3 Stoic Rebuttal
4 Cankerous Thirst
1 Viridian Longbow
1 Infiltration Lens
2 Bladed Pinions
2 Thornbite Staff
2 Gorgon Flail
2 Nim Deathmantle
3 Nemesis Mask
4 Grappling Hook
//Land 35
1 Gilt-Leaf Palace
1 Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
1 Temple of the False God
1 Terramorphic Expanse
1 Evolving Wilds
1 Command Tower
12 Forest
10 Swamp
7 Island
Currently have 100 cards in the decklist.
The Combos:
Sisters of Stone Death (she's can be a one card combo, can't she)
Glissa, the Traitor/Sylvan Basilisk/Engulfing Slagwurm + Lure/Gift of the Deity/Nemesis Mask = Repeatable One-Sided Boardwipe
Any
Any Deathtouch Creature + Viridian Longbow/Thornbite Staff = Targeted Removal
Any Deathtouch Creature + Any Lure item = One-Sided Boardwipe
Any Lure Creature + Any Deathtouch item = One-Sided Boardwipe
Avatar of Woe + Thornbite Staff = One-Sided Boardwipe
8 Sisters of Stone Death
The Deathtouch Wall 8
2 Deadly Recluse
2 Thornweald Archer
3 Stinkweed Imp
3 Turntimber Basilisk
3 Moonglove Changeling
3 Glissa, the Traitor
5 Sylvan Basilisk
5 Acidic Slime
Utility 10
1 Treefolk Harbinger
2 Shinen of Life's Roar
3 Yavimaya Elder
3 Tempting Licid
4 Creakwood Liege
4 Wickerbough Elder
4 Seedguide Ash
4 Necrotic Ooze
5 Graveborn Muse
6 Deadwood Treefolk
Your Worst Nightmares 8
5 Sapling of Colfenor
5 Cairn Wanderer
5 Deity of Scars
5 Vulturous Zombie
6 Gleancrawler
7 Doomgape
7 Engulfing Slagwurm
8 Avatar of Woe
2 Sign in Blood
3 Beseech the Queen
4 Vigor Mortis
4 Diabolic Tutor
5 Promise of Power
5 Beacon of Unrest
5 Rise from the Grave
//Mana Ramp 6
2 Rampant Growth
2 Golgari Signet
3 Search for Tomorrow
3 Cultivate
3 Kodama's Reach
4 Explosive Vegetation
//Buff Spells 5
1 Virulent Swipe
3 Tower Above
3 Lure
4 Bloodscent
5 Gift of the Deity
//Control Spells 9
2 Deglamer
2 Naturalize
2 Grasp of Darkness
3 Sudden Death
3 Putrefy
3 Maelstrom Pulse
3 Rend Flesh
3 Eyeblight's Ending
4 Cankerous Thirst
1 Viridian Longbow
1 Infiltration Lens
2 Bladed Pinions
2 Thornbite Staff
2 Gorgon Flail
2 Nim Deathmantle
3 Nemesis Mask
3 Quietus Spike
//Land 38
1 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Crypt of Agadeem
1 Sapseep Forest
1 Gilt-Leaf Palace
1 Woodland Cemetery (ntby)
1 Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
1 Temple of the False God
16 Forest
15 Swamp
Currently have 100 cards in the decklist.
The Combos:
Sisters of Stone Death (she's can be a one card combo, can't she)
Glissa, the Traitor/Sylvan Basilisk/Engulfing Slagwurm + Lure/Gift of the Deity/Nemesis Mask = Repeatable One-Sided Boardwipe
Any
Any Deathtouch Creature + Viridian Longbow/Thornbite Staff = Targeted Removal
Any Deathtouch Creature + Any Lure item = One-Sided Boardwipe
Any Lure Creature + Any Deathtouch item = One-Sided Boardwipe
Feb 3 update:
Swamp >> Bloodscent
Drooling Groodion >> Necrotic Ooze
Seizan, Perverter of Truth >> Graveborn Muse
Blood Speaker >> Sudden Death
Swamp >> Golgari Rot Farm
Forest >> Gilt-Leaf Palace
Filigree Fracture >> Deglamer
Spider Umbra >> Bladed Pinions ...and yes, I know its not 'Vorthos'
Swamp >> Grasp of Darkness
Greater Basilisk >> Glissa, the Traitor
Forest >> Peregrine Mask
Stronghold Overseer >> Carnifex Demon
Nath's Elite >> Engulfing Slagwurm
June 18 2011 update:
Need to lower my mana curve...
Pestilence Demon >> Treefolk Harbinger
Canifex Demon >> Tempting Licid
Moonglove Winnower >> Thornweald Archer
Daggerback Basilisk >> Yavimaya Elder
Geth, Lord of the Vault >> Vulturous Zombie
Swamp >> Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
Swamp >> Temple of the False God
Forest >> Sapseep Forest
Peregrine Mask >> Avatar of Woe
Oct 1 2011 Update:
Quillspike >> Infiltration Lens
Grappling Hook >> Swamp
Devoted Druid >> Forest
July 18 2015:
Shameless bump.
Thanks and Cheers!
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There most certainly is a tribal mix in this build.
I strive to keep Gorgons at the top, followed closely by Treefolk. There arn't enough snakes with good abilities for me to focus on. Unfortunately Death-Hood Cobra won't be making the cut, but don't let that deter you from suggesting others.
I'm going to need to augment the blue side of the deck...
| B Erebos, God of VampiresB | GYeva SmashG | RBosh ArtifactsR | GURAnimar +1 BeatsGUR | RBVial's Secret Hot SauceRB | UBRNekusar, Draw if you DareUBR | RGBDarigaaz'z DragonsRGB | GBSlimeFEETGB | UBOn-Hit LazavUB | URBrudiclad's Artificer InventionsUR | GUBMuldrotha's ElementalsGUB | WUGKestia's EnchantmentsWUG | GUTatyova - Draw, Land, Go!GU | WGArahbo's EquipmentWG | BUWVarina's ZOMBIE HORDESBUW | WLyra's Angelic SalvationW | WBChurch of TeysaWB | UAzami...WizardsU
Got a few questions about my build that I am hoping to get resolved:
First off, is Damia enough for card draw? (I am strongly assuming no)
Second, I'm looking for 'vorthos' card draw cards/effects but the picking sure seem to be pretty thin. Any recommendations?
To date, in my deck I have:
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Probably the least vorthos card in the deck, but I can't say 'no' to its potency with deathtouch creatures crossing the board.
Graveborn Muse: Has 3 zombies (including itself) and 2 effects that turn creatures into zombies to work with. A fragile Phyrexian Arena at best (my arena is in another build...)
River Kelpie: With only 4 cards in my deck that generate card draw, I'm not sure if he's worth the slot....more on this later.
To date, cards that I am considering:
Ohran Viper: Pseudo Deathtouch and carddraw? Fantastic. Doesn't have the 'vorthos' art, but is a snake. On my wishlist due to cost.
Snake Umbra: Totem armour for a deathtouch dude. Draws cards when connects. Not bad, but is an enchantment. (and again....snake)
Footbottom Feast/Gravepurge: Recur my deathtouch creatures. It's not draw, but it does grant consistancy. The later is a great deal more vorthos than the former, but both are good.
Thirdly, I'm looking for cuts, as anything I add will require something else to be removed. I find it incredibly difficult to cut items from this list as I am trying to do so based on 'vorthos' qualifiers. Which cards should get the axe, based on their power??? (say top 3-5)
Lastly, I few cards that I have comments/questions about
River Kelpie: This guy fits my 'vorthos' nerve pretty good, but I would like to get more out of him without having to depend on my opponents deckbuilds for abuse. Any recommendations of cards that are cast from or put into play from the graveyard that would niche in with my 'vorthos'ness of the deck???
Thought Gorger: This guy looks incredibly interesting. Might replace Doomgape since Damia can replace my hand quite rapidly. Obviously would work better if I could play more from my graveyard aswell. Also returns card draw to me when removed. Worth considering?
I appriciate any thoughts/comments/questions/etc that others have to offer.
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R Citizen Cane (Feldon of the Third Path)
Wow! Sweet find! Very 'vorthos'. If I can afford a spot, he's definately going in! Thanks for the suggestion.
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