This is the only EDH deck that I have created, destroyed, and rebuilt because it holds a special place in my heart as the first one I ever made.
I looked at the other decks with Akroma but none really lookeed like what i was going for.
I want to strictly enforce the next two points
1: The creatures must be either soilders or angels
2: Any suggestions please have a replacement and a reason.
This deck is a semi tribal equipment deck that, in one v one, amasses an army unless playing major boardwipe colors, in multi, creating a super hero with loads of epuipment.
Now my finances are somewhat strict as long as the base deck remains the same.
I am already planning on adding the swords of ___ but I'm not sure where to include them. I also need to find more my advantage board wipes.
Thank you all for any assistance. *note this is in multi because the few games i do play when i must travel to game stores i play multi and i do pretty well.*
The ones with 0 mean I don't have the actual card.
Any new thoughts or additions?
I've added Puresteel Paladin as the only knight because of its synergy with the deck and I don't wish to break my rules too much more. (no sfm)
I also want to include BSA, Deathless Angel, and Prison Term but have no room.
Thanx for any further help.
A few other notes:
Stoneforge Mystic loves your deck, but is not a soldier..........
Steelshaper's Gift also loves your deck, and probably should go in somewhere.
Puresteel Paladin is a knight??? does that count???
Patron of the Kitsune is almost strictly better than righteous cause (but is not a soldier????)
Blinding Angel probably goes in here somewhere
Iona probably goes in here somewhere
Baneslayer Angel goes in somewhere
I realize this is a lot already, so I will stop there, I hope this is helpful. I realize that some of this stuff might be out of budget, but do what you can.
Good Luck
To answer your question about Top... run it, play with it, see its value on your own. If you find it highly resourceful keep it in. I honestly have a hard time playing EDH without it since it's so easily tutorable and helps SO much. Of course who knows... maybe they will ban it...
Thankyou both for the help i will use top and try it out and once i get the swords they will be included.
new question. would it be worth it to aslo include knights?
Thankyou both for the help i will use top and try it out and once i get the swords they will be included.
new question. would it be worth it to aslo include knights?
Well, there are some nice ones available, and it does seem to fit thematically.
I too run a soldier themed deck, though no Angels....and run budget (though it appears you are more budget than I), so I'll give er a go at some tips for you. Take or leave what you will from it: (ps. the troops should always be first in a soldier deck )
SOLIDERS
Akrasan Squire >> Mirror Entity : Probably the only build this guy can be good; turn all your 1/1 soldiers into X/X tanks.
Also, Captain of the Watch and Darien, King of Kjeldor (yes he's a soldier) are fantastic includes. I know, overall I've offered more higher cmc creatures, but you get what you pay for.
ANGELS
Voice of All >> Angel of Salvation : while perhaps not the greatest, convoke is really handy with all the soliders you have to tap, so it becomes a really cheap 5/5 flying flasher.
Deathless Angel might worth a look into.....could be expensive indestrucability....but it would keep your important units on the board during a boardwipe.
Boardwipes: While you are such a huge aggro deck, boardwipes are still necessary. I've been pleased with Solar Tide, Hour of Reckoning, and Hallowed Burial.....though your choices are definately good ones too.
I've really found that surprise assault is a great way to end as your soldiers swarm the board. Nothing beats 10 1/1's crossing the floor, you opponent saying 'I won't block the small stuff', and then you play Swell of Courage or Fortify turning it into 30 damage instead.
I know I've thrown a lot at you just now.....you're welcome to look at my Darien deck for other ideas (follow the link in my sig), but I thought many of your cards lacked luster, and for similar cost, could be turned into a more lethal deck.
I too run a soldier themed deck, though no Angels....and run budget (though it appears you are more budget than I), so I'll give er a go at some tips for you. Take or leave what you will from it: (ps. the troops should always be first in a soldier deck )
SOLIDERS
Akrasan Squire >> Mirror Entity : Probably the only build this guy can be good; turn all your 1/1 soldiers into X/X tanks.
Also, Captain of the Watch and Darien, King of Kjeldor (yes he's a soldier) are fantastic includes. I know, overall I've offered more higher cmc creatures, but you get what you pay for.
ANGELS
Voice of All >> Angel of Salvation : while perhaps not the greatest, convoke is really handy with all the soliders you have to tap, so it becomes a really cheap 5/5 flying flasher.
Deathless Angel might worth a look into.....could be expensive indestrucability....but it would keep your important units on the board during a boardwipe.
Boardwipes: While you are such a huge aggro deck, boardwipes are still necessary. I've been pleased with Solar Tide, Hour of Reckoning, and Hallowed Burial.....though your choices are definately good ones too.
I've really found that surprise assault is a great way to end as your soldiers swarm the board. Nothing beats 10 1/1's crossing the floor, you opponent saying 'I won't block the small stuff', and then you play Swell of Courage or Fortify turning it into 30 damage instead.
I know I've thrown a lot at you just now.....you're welcome to look at my Darien deck for other ideas (follow the link in my sig), but I thought many of your cards lacked luster, and for similar cost, could be turned into a more lethal deck.
Hope this helps
You raised the curve by a lot and due to my endless horizons low cost creatures are a must.
Plus a large amount of those are rare.
I have proc but i am staying away from one hit wonders.
I do thank you for your help and if i aquire i will actively ponder the additions you have suggested.
shadows23: is argentum aromor good enough to warrent the removal of my only 0 drop?
You raised the curve by a lot and due to my endless horizons low cost creatures are a must.
Plus a large amount of those are rare.
I have proc but i am staying away from one hit wonders.
I do thank you for your help and if i aquire i will actively ponder the additions you have suggested.
shadows23: is argentum aromor good enough to warrent the removal of my only 0 drop?
You have 38 land in your deck. I originally thought your way and I had 35 lands. I'd play my hand out by turn 3 and topdeck the rest of the game...since card draw in white is so sparce. By upping the curve, the mana you have in front of you will be more effective, the spells you play will be more more effective, and thus, the cards in your hand will be more effective.
Endless Horizons is a great card, but how do you use it? Do you flush all your mana out when you 1/99 draw it, thus having solid low cmc spell top decks for the rest of the game? I use it as a mana accelerator, play it and just skim 4-6 lands onto it so that you get some guarenteed land drops to keep that mana coming for the larger spells. That way, if your opponent blows it up, you still have land coming your way from the deck.
I'll re-emphasize the card draw spells, especially as the lower the curve you have, the more card draw spells you'll need to offset the quick paced tempo you have.
Many of the suggestions I made may be rare....but they're cheap rare. You can do online orders for under $10.....probably under $5. Probably the most expensive was Catapult Master, but it looked like you have enough cards from Elspeth vs Tezz, and that would mean you have a copy.
As to argentum armor, sure it's a 0 drop, but at what benefit? It's that 0/3 for 3 equip really going to cut it and save you're 1/1 from terminate spells?
Perhaps, to gain a better understanding aout your deck, what do you hope your soldier/angel deck to do? Theme is awesome....but what about tatics? Defensive and wait them out? Aggressive and aggro them to death with tempo? Tricks with the CITP's? Knowing this could help fine-tune future suggestions...
I will usually only have a champion or two out on the feild equipped to the brains with crap.
I take out most of my lands because my low curve that way i am more likely to draw my greats.
If the opponents are using lots of one creature/enchantment removal i take less lands and i play more creatures.
I made a Soldier themed deck with the General being Gerrard Capashen; since he was a Soldier himself; I think you should run some more mana rocks, with this mono colored deck especially since it's white. Like Sol Ring, Thran Dynamo, and even if you can find a Land Tax
Also something fun and cool you can do, get a Leonin Shikari and a Puresteel Paladin, that way you can use those equipments at instant speed and equip for NADA, Nothing.
And since you are playing white, if you want something really crazy. Reveillark, Karmic Guide, and Phyrexian Altar, infinite mana created and then add Mobilization, Oh god, a Infinite Army of Soldiers. Though Karmic guide is hard to find and might be a little bit of money. And if your gonna do that throw in a Memorial to your General...Akroma's Memorial MINI Akroma's Oh god.
I say replace Sword of Light and Shadow with Feast and Famine, F&F is overall the best of the 5, second to fire and ice IMO.
Quality over crappy reanimation, but you're welcome to include F&F as well.
Also, from Innistrad, Angelic Overseer is pretty damn amazing if you've got humans and you wrath, a 5/3 with hexproof and "wrath resistant" is high quality. Then the probability comes into question.. It seems very budget as well. So feel free to ignore either of these suggestions due to price.
If it wasn't so strict, it'd be entertaining to run Grimoire of the Dead Zombie Angels and Zombie Soldiers, alongside whatever else they run is a game ender. And an amazing Wincon.
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I looked at the other decks with Akroma but none really lookeed like what i was going for.
I want to strictly enforce the next two points
1: The creatures must be either soilders or angels
2: Any suggestions please have a replacement and a reason.
This deck is a semi tribal equipment deck that, in one v one, amasses an army unless playing major boardwipe colors, in multi, creating a super hero with loads of epuipment.
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Weapons
1 Accorders Shield
1 Bonesplitter
1 Infiltration Lens
1 Leonin Scimitar
1 Skullclamp
1 Sylvok Lifestaff
1 Trusty Machete
1 Livewire Lash
1 Kusari-Gama
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Magebane Armor
1 Quietus Spike
1 Strata Scythe
1 Whispersilk Cloak
1 Bonehoard
Army
1 Akrasa Squire
1 Elite Vangaurd
1 Kitesail Apprentice
1 Kor Duelist
1 Loyal Sentry
1 Mosquito Gaurd
1 Valiant Gaurd
1 Kazandu Blademaster
1 Kor Aeronaut
1 Kor Outfitter
1 Veteran Armorsmith
1 Aven Squire
1 Ikiral Outrider
1 Kjeldoran Outrider
1 Leonin Den-Gaurd
1 Patrol Signaler
1 Sunspear Shikari
1 Field Marshall
1 Ballynock Cohort
1 Kor Hookmaster
1 Makindi Shieldmate
1 Veteran Swordsmith
1 Voice of All
1 Lightkeeper of Emeria
1 Twilight Shepherd
1 Victory's Herald
1 Sunblast Angel
1 Reya Dawnbringer
1 Quest for the Holy Relic
1 Crusade
1 Luminarch Acsension
1 Pacifism
1 Recumbent Bliss
1 Serra's Boon
1 Marshal's Anthem
1 Endless Horizans
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Righteous Cause
Friends
1 Ajani Goldmane
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
Sorcery
1 Cenn's Enlistment
1 Conqueror's Pledge
1 Landbind Ritual
1 Nomad's Assembly
1 Mass Calcify
1 Martial Coup
Memories
1 Daru Encampment
1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1 Kabira Crossroads
1 Rustic Clachan
1 Secluded Steppe
1 Sejiri Steppe
32 Plains
Now my finances are somewhat strict as long as the base deck remains the same.
I am already planning on adding the swords of ___ but I'm not sure where to include them. I also need to find more my advantage board wipes.
Thank you all for any assistance. *note this is in multi because the few games i do play when i must travel to game stores i play multi and i do pretty well.*
1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
1 Kitesail Apprentice
1 Kor Duelist
1 Loyal Sentry
1 Mosquito Guard
1 Valiant Guard
1 Aven Squire
1 Kor Aeronaut
1 Kor Outfitter
1 Leonin Den-Guard
1 Puresteel Paladin
1 Sunspear Shikari
1 Veteran Armorsmith
1 Field Marshal
1 Gideon's Avenger
1 Veteran Swordsmith
0 Benalish Commander
0 Daru Warchief
1 Lightkeeper of Emeria
0 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
0 Loxodon Gatekeeper
1 Loxodon Punisher
1 Voice of All
0 Blinding Angel
1 Sunblast Angel
1 Victory's Herald
1 Angelic Arbiter
0 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Reya Dawnbringer
1 Bonehoard
1 Bonesplitter
1 Infiltration Lens
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Quietus Spike
1 Strata Scythe
1 Sword of Body and Mind
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
0 Sword of Fire and Ice
0 Sword of Light and Shadow
0 Sword of War and Peace
1 Trusty Machete
1 Ajani Goldmane
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
0 Gideon Jura
1 Quest for the Holy Relic
0 Honor the Pure
1 Luminarch Ascension
0 Aura of Silence
0 Ghostly Prison
1 Recumbent Bliss
1 Endless Horizons
1 Faith's Fetters
1 Marshal's Anthem
1 True Conviction
1 Sol Ring
1 Steelshaper's Gift
1 Conqueror's Pledge
1 Landbind Ritual
1 Austere Command
1 Nomad's Assembly
1 Mass Calcify
1 Martial Coup
31 Plains
1 Daru Encampment
1 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1 Kabira Crossroads
1 Secluded Steppe
1 Sejiri Steppe
The ones with 0 mean I don't have the actual card.
Any new thoughts or additions?
I've added Puresteel Paladin as the only knight because of its synergy with the deck and I don't wish to break my rules too much more. (no sfm)
I also want to include BSA, Deathless Angel, and Prison Term but have no room.
Thanx for any further help.
Thanx to Bookworm10 for the Sig.
Check out my YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/ThyrixSyx
Cockatrice: shadowkill
Rules Adviser
Take Out: Put In:
Accorder's Shield Argentum Armor (Quest equips for free, Outfitter equips for free, and late game 6 is nothing anyways)
Leonin Scimitar Sword of fire and ice (You know why)
Trusty Machete Sword of Light and Shadow
Serra's Boon Sword of Body and Mind
Sylvok Lifestaff Sword of Feast and Famine
Magebane Armor Sword of War and Peace
Crusade Divine Sacrament (almost always better)
Pacifism Swords to Plowshares (fauna shamans must die, and pacificm just doesn't cut it.
Valiant Guard [CARD]Wrath of God
[/CARD] (because sometimes you fall behind)
Malkindi Shieldmate Austere command (this is almost always even better than wrath of god)
A few other notes:
Stoneforge Mystic loves your deck, but is not a soldier..........
Steelshaper's Gift also loves your deck, and probably should go in somewhere.
Puresteel Paladin is a knight??? does that count???
Patron of the Kitsune is almost strictly better than righteous cause (but is not a soldier????)
Blinding Angel probably goes in here somewhere
Iona probably goes in here somewhere
Baneslayer Angel goes in somewhere
I realize this is a lot already, so I will stop there, I hope this is helpful. I realize that some of this stuff might be out of budget, but do what you can.
Good Luck
new question. would it be worth it to aslo include knights?
Thanx to Bookworm10 for the Sig.
Check out my YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/ThyrixSyx
Cockatrice: shadowkill
Rules Adviser
Well, there are some nice ones available, and it does seem to fit thematically.
SOLIDERS
Akrasan Squire >> Mirror Entity : Probably the only build this guy can be good; turn all your 1/1 soldiers into X/X tanks.
Elite Vanguard >> Ajani's Pridemate : You have a lot of life gain in your deck; this guy can make use of that.
Mosquito Gaurd >> Preeminent Captain : Get the most out of your attack with this guy.
Valiant Gaurd >> Benalish Commander : A flexible troop generator.
Kazandu Blademaster >> Loxodon Gatekeeper : Tempo is important and this guy gives it to you.....also really sweet if you play Sunblast Angel
Ballynock Cohort >> Catapult Master : This guy is a must. Nuf said.
Makindi Shieldmate >> Stormfront Riders : Handy token generator; but also works really well to bounce your CITP creatures.
Also, Captain of the Watch and Darien, King of Kjeldor (yes he's a soldier) are fantastic includes. I know, overall I've offered more higher cmc creatures, but you get what you pay for.
ANGELS
Voice of All >> Angel of Salvation : while perhaps not the greatest, convoke is really handy with all the soliders you have to tap, so it becomes a really cheap 5/5 flying flasher.
Deathless Angel might worth a look into.....could be expensive indestrucability....but it would keep your important units on the board during a boardwipe.
OTHER
Accorder's Shield >> Veteran's Armaments : works pretty good in soldier deck as it equips for free.
Leonin Scimitar >> True Conviction : Really good cheap enchantment
Pacifism >> Prison Term : For an extra W, you gain tonnes of flexibility. If down, you can even move it on to a Uril when he comes into play.
Serra's Boon >> Proclamation of Rebirth : Great way to recur those 1 drops.
I'm going to keep going; I know I've revamped your entire line, but there is so much potential with soldiers.
Needs card draw with all the cheap cmc creatures: Well Of Lost Dreams and Illuminated Folio are probably the best here.
Boardwipes: While you are such a huge aggro deck, boardwipes are still necessary. I've been pleased with Solar Tide, Hour of Reckoning, and Hallowed Burial.....though your choices are definately good ones too.
I've really found that surprise assault is a great way to end as your soldiers swarm the board. Nothing beats 10 1/1's crossing the floor, you opponent saying 'I won't block the small stuff', and then you play Swell of Courage or Fortify turning it into 30 damage instead.
Other cards worthy of a slot are Leonin Sun Standard, Knight-Captain of Eos, Militia's Pride, and even Mine Excavation.
I know I've thrown a lot at you just now.....you're welcome to look at my Darien deck for other ideas (follow the link in my sig), but I thought many of your cards lacked luster, and for similar cost, could be turned into a more lethal deck.
Hope this helps
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You raised the curve by a lot and due to my endless horizons low cost creatures are a must.
Plus a large amount of those are rare.
I have proc but i am staying away from one hit wonders.
I do thank you for your help and if i aquire i will actively ponder the additions you have suggested.
shadows23: is argentum aromor good enough to warrent the removal of my only 0 drop?
Thanx to Bookworm10 for the Sig.
Check out my YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/ThyrixSyx
Cockatrice: shadowkill
Rules Adviser
You have 38 land in your deck. I originally thought your way and I had 35 lands. I'd play my hand out by turn 3 and topdeck the rest of the game...since card draw in white is so sparce. By upping the curve, the mana you have in front of you will be more effective, the spells you play will be more more effective, and thus, the cards in your hand will be more effective.
Endless Horizons is a great card, but how do you use it? Do you flush all your mana out when you 1/99 draw it, thus having solid low cmc spell top decks for the rest of the game? I use it as a mana accelerator, play it and just skim 4-6 lands onto it so that you get some guarenteed land drops to keep that mana coming for the larger spells. That way, if your opponent blows it up, you still have land coming your way from the deck.
I'll re-emphasize the card draw spells, especially as the lower the curve you have, the more card draw spells you'll need to offset the quick paced tempo you have.
Many of the suggestions I made may be rare....but they're cheap rare. You can do online orders for under $10.....probably under $5. Probably the most expensive was Catapult Master, but it looked like you have enough cards from Elspeth vs Tezz, and that would mean you have a copy.
As to argentum armor, sure it's a 0 drop, but at what benefit? It's that 0/3 for 3 equip really going to cut it and save you're 1/1 from terminate spells?
Perhaps, to gain a better understanding aout your deck, what do you hope your soldier/angel deck to do? Theme is awesome....but what about tatics? Defensive and wait them out? Aggressive and aggro them to death with tempo? Tricks with the CITP's? Knowing this could help fine-tune future suggestions...
Cheers
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I take out most of my lands because my low curve that way i am more likely to draw my greats.
If the opponents are using lots of one creature/enchantment removal i take less lands and i play more creatures.
Thanx to Bookworm10 for the Sig.
Check out my YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/ThyrixSyx
Cockatrice: shadowkill
Rules Adviser
Thanx to Bookworm10 for the Sig.
Check out my YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/ThyrixSyx
Cockatrice: shadowkill
Rules Adviser
I'm surprised no Rout, or wrath effects like Day of Judgement, or even Wrath of God. As well as no spot removal? Path to Exile Swords to Plowshares
Also something fun and cool you can do, get a Leonin Shikari and a Puresteel Paladin, that way you can use those equipments at instant speed and equip for NADA, Nothing.
And since you are playing white, if you want something really crazy. Reveillark, Karmic Guide, and Phyrexian Altar, infinite mana created and then add Mobilization, Oh god, a Infinite Army of Soldiers. Though Karmic guide is hard to find and might be a little bit of money. And if your gonna do that throw in a Memorial to your General...Akroma's Memorial MINI Akroma's Oh god.
I was thinking about the memorial though.
Thanx to Bookworm10 for the Sig.
Check out my YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/ThyrixSyx
Cockatrice: shadowkill
Rules Adviser
Quality over crappy reanimation, but you're welcome to include F&F as well.
Also, from Innistrad, Angelic Overseer is pretty damn amazing if you've got humans and you wrath, a 5/3 with hexproof and "wrath resistant" is high quality. Then the probability comes into question.. It seems very budget as well. So feel free to ignore either of these suggestions due to price.
Also, Stony Silence, is amazing hate in EDH, as is Nevermore. and for monowhite trample, go with Thraben Sentry//Thraben Militia
If it wasn't so strict, it'd be entertaining to run Grimoire of the Dead Zombie Angels and Zombie Soldiers, alongside whatever else they run is a game ender. And an amazing Wincon.
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I will look into the sentry and the controllers though. Thanx:)
The only thing is the silence stops my equips too.
Thanx to Bookworm10 for the Sig.
Check out my YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/user/ThyrixSyx
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