With this deck you are SO not going to make friends It fully loaded with all kinds of infinite combo's to end the game in the most boring fashion. Fetch it all with Johnny and combo your heart out!
I think Arcanis the Omnipotent would be better for the "Azami's Matters" combo, since that way you get card advantage instead of just card filtering, not to mention his straight-up better stats.
So if I were to say "you're a complete douchebag who has his head up his ass so far he's using his own eyeballs as glasses," you'd simply shrug it off?
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lol I don't think he's worried about the banned list with his general.
I like the idea of using an Un card for a general. I need to get my hands on a Fruitcake Elemental.
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I think Arcanis the Omnipotent would be better for the "Azami's Matters" combo, since that way you get card advantage instead of just card filtering, not to mention his straight-up better stats.
True, but he has summoning sickness. Azami starts right away. But I put him in, he's a bomb
Aren't the Kobolds red and therefore against the rules?
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Aren't the Kobolds red and therefore against the rules?
Yes, they are red. But they are red because it's on the card, not because they have a R in their mana cost. And that is what the EDH rules check So you can put the little men in EVERY EDH deck
That's actually quite humorous.
The complete opposite of Ghostfire, in a sense.
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Wouldn't Ornithopter and Phyrexian Walker be better than Kobolds? also, probably not worthwhile, but Etherium Sculptorcould replace Helm and Rings of Brighthearth seems all around good in here, also I believe it can go infinite with Basalt (Tap basalt add 3, use 5 to play untap ability and copy, let one resolve, tap with second on the stack, you now have 6 mana and it only costs 5 to repeat).
Wouldn't Ornithopter and Phyrexian Walker be better than Kobolds? also, probably not worthwhile, but Etherium Sculptorcould replace Helm and Rings of Brighthearth seems all around good in here, also I believe it can go infinite with Basalt (Tap basalt add 3, use 5 to play untap ability and copy, let one resolve, tap with second on the stack, you now have 6 mana and it only costs 5 to repeat).
Cloudstone Curio has a NONARTIFACT clause, so that's why I chose for the Kobolds The other two cards are cool, but what to cut?
Is planar portal really necessary for the beacon combo when your general does the same thing anyway, but better?
Either way, I love the deck. Never seen so many infinite combos in one deck before!
Eh, doh Never even noticed that I yoinked it out and put in a Vendilion Clique, which is just good And thanks! It was really cool to put together. I googled for infinite combo's and found a lot
Is johnny really legal in EDH/Commander? the only card restrictions i can see are the banlist, and that the set has to be released is that correct? Because I like this deck and want to build it, slightly different...
And if you got infinite turns, Darksteel reactor might be the win option
Technically I don't think anything from Unhinged / Unglued is legal in EDH. But this is EDH and some groups will be fine with it.. though I suspect that the majority of LGS groups won't want the Un-cards in their groups. So posting a deck with Un-cards is generally fine, but most "serious" players won't bother with the threads for long.
Yes, they are red. But they are red because it's on the card, not because they have a R in their mana cost. And that is what the EDH rules check So you can put the little men in EVERY EDH deck
This isn't actually true. The red Kobolds can only go in a red deck. Transguild Courier can only be used in a 5cc deck for the same reason.
Also, added note on Gatherer's ruling about the 3 Kobolds:
Although originally printed with a characteristic-defining ability that defined its color, this card now has a color indicator. This color indicator can't be affected by text-changing effects (such as the one created by Crystal Spray), although color-changing effects can still overwrite it.
My own rules when building a Commander deck:
1) Underrated general that I can build around but the deck must work without him/her too.
2) Every card must be legal in both banlists.
3) No infinite combo that could win (and ruin) instantly a multiplayer game.
4) Synergy at all costs; stay on theme, avoid goodstuff.
The last post before today was from almost four years ago...
To answer the question of the guy that necro'ed the thread: Johhny (and all Unhinged and Unglued cards) is banned in every format. So unless your playgroup makes a special allowance...
My own rules when building a Commander deck:
1) Underrated general that I can build around but the deck must work without him/her too.
2) Every card must be legal in both banlists.
3) No infinite combo that could win (and ruin) instantly a multiplayer game.
4) Synergy at all costs; stay on theme, avoid goodstuff.
eh i'm quite sure you can't play kobolds in your deck since they have color indication of red. Same reason why you can't play Garruk Relentless in mono green decks.
Yes, they are red. But they are red because it's on the card, not because they have a R in their mana cost. And that is what the EDH rules check So you can put the little men in EVERY EDH deck
903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card's mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204). #
Although originally printed with a characteristic-defining ability that defined its color, this card now has a color indicator.
If the color identity of a card includes the color indicator I would think Kobolds of Kher Keep could only be played in red decks. For the same reason Elbrus, the Binding Blade can only be played in black decks.
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lol I don't think he's worried about the banned list with his general.
I like the idea of using an Un card for a general. I need to get my hands on a Fruitcake Elemental.
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Doh, totally forgot that! I replaced the combo with Tez by the one below.
Thanks! The combo is in!
Well, I do try to follow the banlist. I just forgot it was on it
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No Grim Monolith or Basalt Monolith plus Power artifact for infiinite mana to add to the Stroke of Genius, braingeyser bit?
You can also do Planar Portal ,beacon of tomorrow for infinite turns with lots of mana.
EDIT: Never mind I missed Grim/power
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Aren't the Kobolds red and therefore against the rules?
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Yes, they are red. But they are red because it's on the card, not because they have a R in their mana cost. And that is what the EDH rules check
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That's actually quite humorous.
The complete opposite of Ghostfire, in a sense.
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Yeah, lol
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Cloudstone Curio has a NONARTIFACT clause, so that's why I chose for the Kobolds
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Either way, I love the deck. Never seen so many infinite combos in one deck before!
Eh, doh
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And if you got infinite turns, Darksteel reactor might be the win option
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This isn't actually true. The red Kobolds can only go in a red deck. Transguild Courier can only be used in a 5cc deck for the same reason.
Relevant ruling threads:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=508274
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=537376
Also, added note on Gatherer's ruling about the 3 Kobolds:
Although originally printed with a characteristic-defining ability that defined its color, this card now has a color indicator. This color indicator can't be affected by text-changing effects (such as the one created by Crystal Spray), although color-changing effects can still overwrite it.
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My own rules when building a Commander deck:
1) Underrated general that I can build around but the deck must work without him/her too.
2) Every card must be legal in both banlists.
3) No infinite combo that could win (and ruin) instantly a multiplayer game.
4) Synergy at all costs; stay on theme, avoid goodstuff.
The last post before today was from almost four years ago...
To answer the question of the guy that necro'ed the thread: Johhny (and all Unhinged and Unglued cards) is banned in every format. So unless your playgroup makes a special allowance...
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Pauper decks:
My own rules when building a Commander deck:
1) Underrated general that I can build around but the deck must work without him/her too.
2) Every card must be legal in both banlists.
3) No infinite combo that could win (and ruin) instantly a multiplayer game.
4) Synergy at all costs; stay on theme, avoid goodstuff.
Kobolds of Kher Keep has the following notes:
If the color identity of a card includes the color indicator I would think Kobolds of Kher Keep could only be played in red decks. For the same reason Elbrus, the Binding Blade can only be played in black decks.
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"Well, then we will at least fight in the shadow"
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Post by Narah about unbanning Mind Twist in legacy and that this would be evil:
If you want to play on MTGO add me I'm HeskatetAS, playing Modern and Legacy