MTGS Wiki Project: Clans

  • #1
    I realize how bad the state of clan-related articles are about half a week ago, and thought I'd try to establish some order and structure to Clans- and clan-related articles.

    Currently such articles are in the state they were previously; without structure, without order, without order; anything went.

    Right now, this is an open discussion for brainstorming what you think should be on these pages, what sections/headers are appropriate, and really, anything goes here (as opposed to on MTGS Wiki).

    Currently, the closest pages to exemplars are [499]'s article entry (at "499") and any recently created entries (e.g. "Planar Chaos (clan)") that, in terms of content and historical accuracy, tower over older, more renowned clans.

    In the words of others before me, "Go." Smile

    Edit:
    Issues for discussion, in addition to any others:
    • Friends lists
    • Section headers: names; also, in concurrence with other issue "friends lists"
    • Thread listing
    • Content; what exactly is acceptable?

    My stance:
    Friends list: Cull (lazy way); or, shorten/use columns (not-so-lazy way).
    Section headers: Some are simply not descriptive enough. Some articles don't even have any sense of structure and have no headers. Also, "Members lists", "Members", "Other members", "Clan leader", "Clan founder", "Leader", "Founder", etc. What's needed is a standardized list of guideline headers for memberlistings.
    Thread listing: Advised and advocated.
    Content: A neutral, no-point-of-view, and succinct, yet detailed summary of a clan's purpose, history (up's and down's; everything), and doesn't blatantly advertise.
    Last edited by 9909: 10/6/2008 11:23:18 AM
  • #2
    I can provide a short history of [MTGS Brigade], which doesn't seem to be listed, if you want. But yeah, looking through some of the pages, they are... very out of date. I agree with you that Planar Chaos has a pretty good page layout. Many of the clans have banners at the top of the first post, too, though, and those would be nice to include in the page, if they have one and it doesn't take too much time.

    Unfortunately, I don't have the time to go and edit things myself, or I would. I am atrociously busy. Frown
    Last edited by Mr. Stuff: 10/6/2008 10:10:33 AM

  • #3
    Understood, and 100% okay with me, Mr. Stuff. I'll create the MTGS Brigade page and edit in the basics, as well as list it elsewhere.

    Ah, yes, clan banners; important, but not essential. In an effort to standardize the image quality as well as the size, restrictions should be made pre-sizing on the wiki, but again, this is a issue for later.

    Anyhow, thanks for your offer, Mr. Stuff. Rest assured, it's much appreciated. Smile

    Edit: It's up here.
    You can share the work between your clan members, make it a weekly collaborative effort, or something. :p
  • #4
    I tried to be neutral in mine- yes, we were spamming up the forum, something I kept berating myself for, and finally got to do it legally.

    So, it's a good thing Grin


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  • #5
    I tried to be neutral in mine- yes, we were spamming up the forum, something I kept berating myself for, and finally got to do it legally.

    So, it's a good thing Grin
    It's all right. :p
    And yes, a good thing, indeed. Tongue

    ***
    I've created the following template (Template:Former clans) that inserts a category; the problem is, what should that category be?

    See, I can move the template and such, but I can't move the category, expecting it to be fine and all; thus, I have to get the category right the first time, the only time.

    Should it be "former clans"; "defunct clans"; "retired clans"; what clans?
    Pipe in, thanks.

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    Questions:
    *Must it be "FUZZY FURRY FREAKY BATALLION", all in capitals? Yes, and Battallion is misspelt; perhaps intentional?
    *The ImageCrafters vs. The Imagecrafters vs. Imagecrafters vs. ImageCrafters? The ImageCrafters.
    *The Brits vs. Brits? The Brits.
    *"The" vs. "no-The"? Depends.
    *Guild clans; what are their proper names? Got 'em; most.
    Last edited by 9909: 10/6/2008 1:23:03 PM
  • #6
    I updated the ARD page, changing the list of members so it is up-to-date. Smile

    EDIT: and added a link to the current thread.
    Last edited by Rubin: 11/26/2008 7:03:37 PM
  • #7
    Quote from Rubin8or
    I updated the ARD page, changing the list of members so it is up-to-date. Smile

    EDIT: and added a link to the current thread.
    While it's great, do you think you could provide invaluable information to, say, the clan's history?

    In a couple of months, let's assume the most tragic thing in the world were to happen to the clan - that is, it were to close - and months later, what would be its legacy, if any? And hence, we document significant happenstances and events. :p

    In any case, many thanks.
  • #8
    Well, I'll talk to the other members and try to keep it as up-to date as possible. I don't really know a lot of the stuff, but now it's a lot less dusty than it was before. I'll ask.

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  • #9
    I have a question about this. I am currently working on Clan MonoBlack's history, and it is almost done. My only question is to submit it for the wiki page, what all do I need to do?

    Also, I hope this isnt necroing since its an on going project. If it is, I apologize Smile

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  • #10
    I added a page for Dragons, but nothing there for information yet.
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  • #11
    How long does you clan have had to be around before making a page. Our clan has been around for just over a month but we're almost on our second clan thread. I think it would be easier to start a page now and just keep it updated.
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  • #12
    Quote from Sir Auron25
    I have a question about this. I am currently working on Clan MonoBlack's history, and it is almost done. My only question is to submit it for the wiki page, what all do I need to do?
    1. "Edit page", or whatever it's called.

    2. Copy-paste.

    3. "Save page".
    Also, I hope this isnt necroing since its an on going project. If it is, I apologize Smile
    No; what you've done isn't necroing at all.
    Quote from AzureShadow
    I added a page for Dragons, but nothing there for information yet.
    Great.

    What would better the page, I'm guessing, is some information; perhaps clan history, including date of formation, and mmmaybe its members - although anyone can find members by clicking any of the clan's threads, right?
    Quote from kpaca
    How long does you clan have had to be around before making a page. Our clan has been around for just over a month but we're almost on our second clan thread. I think it would be easier to start a page now and just keep it updated.
    As long as the clan is 'established 'enough''.

    A clan (of no value of any sort) could be around for a month, create a gazillion threads.
    A clan could also be around forever and still have nothing to show for its existence.

    If you need an absolute answer, let's say a month. Whatever.
  • #13
    I post a majority of Clan Mono-Black's wiki page today (the only thing missing is some of our earlier history and our thread's list, which I still have to get around to). My only problem was posting images. I wanted two thumbs of images to show up, but when I did what the wiki edit help said to, they showed up as hyperlinks instead. What did I do wrong?

    This is an example of what I did for the thumbs:
    [[ .png|thumb|Hypnotic Specter, Clan Mono-Black's unofficial mascot. Art by Greg Staples]]

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    Quote from Dechs Kaison

    More seriously, I do intend to teach my kid how to play magic. The litmus test will be every month or so I'll hand him a basic land to play with. When his first reaction is no longer "chew on the card" he's ready to learn.
  • #14
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    Check it; I hope I answer any queries.
  • #15
    Quote from kpaca
    How long does you clan have had to be around before making a page. Our clan has been around for just over a month but we're almost on our second clan thread. I think it would be easier to start a page now and just keep it updated.


    The Family's page has been updated.

    I also took the liberty of updating the current lists of Clans. The lists should be accurate.

    I'll keep in touch.
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