Vandalism on Wiki has picked back up recently. These aren't random bots targeting wikis with ads this time.
Is there anyway to put in a better way for signing up for an account on the wiki? The system where you have to type in the word or letters that are show to verify your not a bot kind-of thing?
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They're human, from the looks of it. I'd say less than 5 people, 4chan posters, for sure. The fact that the wiki is still standing says it's just some random guys and not an actual invasion. We can breathe easy for that.
Yeah, we noticed this too. Someone's been vandalizing the Coloholics entry.
Which brings up the naive idea that it should be deleted because it's not "MTG-related". The point is that it's "MTGS-related" as it's a site where a lot of major MTGS members and world projects migrated and a good deal of well-known MTGS members post on. It's part of the whole "TFE Banned" storyline and part of the MTGS Colosseum's history (and lifeline, mind you).
So no, it has nothing to do with the game of Magic the Gathering, but it has to do with the MTGS Colosseum and MTGS.
I assumed this was an MTGS Wiki, not an MTG Wiki.
Under those standards you should delete absolutely everything non-MTG related in the Wiki, which is a lot of forums and articles. Goodbye everything in the MTGS Colosseum article except the MTG World Project.
Good luck taking care of it, 4chan did actually launch some attacks on MTGNs and even Coloholics has had a good amount of spammers and miscreants.
Vandalism on Wiki has picked back up recently. These aren't random bots targeting wikis with ads this time.
Indeed; one of them may or may not have an image of the 5 Pains or whatever it's called - that horrible collage of shock images.
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They're human, from the looks of it. I'd say less than 5 people, 4chan posters, for sure.
Or Coloholics Anonymous members.
Google's tech when one of the vandals uses his/her Yahoo! handle as his/her MTGSWiki handle.
The fact that the wiki is still standing says it's just some random guys and not an actual invasion. We can breathe easy for that.
I guess so.
If it were an invasion, there really isn't that much to vandalise that cannot be reverted; even so, it would simply mean - what, if worse comes to worst and things eventuate in 'total chaos' - adding more sysops in response or maybe even disable account registration temporarily.
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Someone's been vandalizing the Coloholics entry.
Which brings up the naive idea that it should be deleted because it's not "MTG-related". The point is that it's "MTGS-related" as it's a site where a lot of major MTGS members and world projects migrated and a good deal of well-known MTGS members post on. It's part of the whole "TFE Banned" storyline and part of the MTGS Colosseum's history (and lifeline, mind you).
So no, it has nothing to do with the game of Magic the Gathering, but it has to do with the MTGS Colosseum and MTGS.
I assumed this was an MTGS Wiki, not an MTG Wiki.
Well, if you want to have things relating to each other, thereby justifying their existence with the existence of other, remotely related articles, then you could potentially just make MTGSWiki 'Wikipedia, V2'.
As for what this is; it appears that it's a wiki for MTGS and MTG. I wouldn't make an assumption as to what it is, however.
Perhaps the Coloholics Anonymous article should be... merged with TFE's page.
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Ultimate Danny, actually vandalism of Coloholics started long after someone has put "proposed to be deleted" tag, so that wasn't a reason.
That someone is me...
And IMHO, this wiki should be mainly about MTG, not MTGS, but I understand and repect that many people want it to be about MTGS as well.
I believe I'm a contributing factor to why it's this way. I continued from another's/others' (mini-)projects; if this is a matter of blame, then I won't mention others, and it should be a matter of such nature anyhow.
So maybe you're right that it shouldn't be deleted, but that's another story. GeoMike is right that "write four letters you see on picture" kind of protection would cut at least half of them (bots).
Yeah... so this is where I'm going to say I'm sorry I didn't see this before...
I've edited a message onto GeoMike's user talk page, with regards to CAPTCHA tech, but seeing as 4chan (I don't really know who/what they/it is now; I once read about them/it/whatever, and it didn't make too great an impression) has human users, I doubt it will have any effect, other than irritate registering editors.
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wouldn't an IP on them vandals be a quick way to prevent any further attack?
Actually... hm... let me think...
I don't know to be honest. It looks like I myself have a dynamic IP address (I'm the editor on that competitor wiki whose IP talk page has redirects to others), and I'm not sure how that, or other dynamic IP's, work in relation to blocks.
I think it won't help.
MORT, when we block accounts, I believe we may also be blocking the IP's; not only that, we're preventing "account creation" or something.
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We don't see an IP when the user has account (and only people having an account can edit our wiki).
Well, VoA says we actually can, but we need to upgrade the wiki software.
Even if we assume that blocking user name blocks his IP adress as well, IP can be changed.
In the event of an invasion, the last thing you want to do is add more sysops. A well planned invasion will have planted users ahead of time to become those sysops.
In the event of an invasion, the last thing you want to do is add more sysops. A well planned invasion will have planted users ahead of time to become those sysops.
Haha... well, that's sort of what I had in mind. That would be quite a problem, indeed.
Seeing as I wasn't the only one with that unlikely-to-happen, hypothetical situation, I guess that's completely out-of-the-picture now.
Maybe the only thing ordinary users and sysops can do in response to vandalism is just revert it. Hannes is probably the only one who can stop a full-scale invasion, or maybe VoiceOfAll(MTG).
Maybe the only thing ordinary users and sysops can do in response to vandalism is just revert it. Hannes is probably the only one who can stop a full-scale invasion, or maybe VoiceOfAll(MTG).
Pretty much, as far as invasion targets go, wikis really aren't that satisfying. The goal would be nothing short of changing/deleting every article, which would be very fast to fix. Just shut down the wiki and revert the whole thing to a certain date.
Nothing permanent can happen without serious hacking, so we just have to be ready to do a lot of cleanup.
@MM: Perhaps the CA entry shouldn't be merged with TFE's page. TFE, at first, represented CA, but he does not anymore. We have over 850 members and almost 80k posts. So in no way are we still a TFE gimmik, sorry.
@MM: Perhaps the CA entry shouldn't be merged with TFE's page. TFE, at first, represented CA, but he does not anymore. We have over 850 members and almost 80k posts. So in no way are we still a TFE gimmik, sorry.
At first, and at the time that CA was truly affiliated with MTGS, TFE was the primary source of the leadership.
Now CA is a completely seperate entity; and as such, its mention should be in TFE's Wiki as a historical Entry; as this is of MTGS's history, not a plug for CA.
On another note, it's truly saddening this happened, and i hope you resolve it quickly.
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So when someone mentions CA it is automatically advertising for CA? I didn't even call CA by it's real name - google "CA" any you won't find much, I promise. So technically, there was no way I was "plugging CA". And CA was, as you said, affiliated with MTGS. It isn't anymore. But it was.
So when someone mentions CA it is automatically advertising for CA? I didn't even call CA by it's real name - google "CA" any you won't find much, I promise. So technically, there was no way I was "plugging CA". And CA was, as you said, affiliated with MTGS. It isn't anymore. But it was.
No, it isn't.
I SMELLS HISTORAY.
Yes, "you smells historay".
At first, and at the time that CA was truly affiliated with MTGS, TFE was the primary source of the leadership.
Now CA is a completely seperate entity; and as such, its mention should be in TFE's Wiki as a historical Entry; as this is of MTGS's history, not a plug for CA.
Mmm... I think the whole entry has been kept.
Doesn't matter.
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@MM: Perhaps the CA entry shouldn't be merged with TFE's page. TFE, at first, represented CA, but he does not anymore. We have over 850 members and almost 80k posts. So in no way are we still a TFE gimmik, sorry.
Ok.
Lol, timely of me or anyone, huh.
General gist of vandalism nowadays; it's gone down, with the implementation of CAPTCHA (upon registration).
Blocking users is also easier.
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Is there anyway to put in a better way for signing up for an account on the wiki? The system where you have to type in the word or letters that are show to verify your not a bot kind-of thing?
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Nothing really big, they just posted links consistant with 4chan invasions.
I wasn't aware that they invaded 'news. How bad was it?
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Which brings up the naive idea that it should be deleted because it's not "MTG-related". The point is that it's "MTGS-related" as it's a site where a lot of major MTGS members and world projects migrated and a good deal of well-known MTGS members post on. It's part of the whole "TFE Banned" storyline and part of the MTGS Colosseum's history (and lifeline, mind you).
So no, it has nothing to do with the game of Magic the Gathering, but it has to do with the MTGS Colosseum and MTGS.
I assumed this was an MTGS Wiki, not an MTG Wiki.
Under those standards you should delete absolutely everything non-MTG related in the Wiki, which is a lot of forums and articles. Goodbye everything in the MTGS Colosseum article except the MTG World Project.
Good luck taking care of it, 4chan did actually launch some attacks on MTGNs and even Coloholics has had a good amount of spammers and miscreants.
An admin was online at the time the invasion started, so they were able to contain it fairly quickly.
https://twitch.tv/annorax10 (classic retro speedruns & occasional MTGO/MTGA screwaround streams)
https://twitch.tv/SwiftorCasino (yes, my team and I run live dealer games for the baldman using his channel points as chips)
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Or Coloholics Anonymous members.
Google's tech when one of the vandals uses his/her Yahoo! handle as his/her MTGSWiki handle.
I guess so.
If it were an invasion, there really isn't that much to vandalise that cannot be reverted; even so, it would simply mean - what, if worse comes to worst and things eventuate in 'total chaos' - adding more sysops in response or maybe even disable account registration temporarily.
Well, if you want to have things relating to each other, thereby justifying their existence with the existence of other, remotely related articles, then you could potentially just make MTGSWiki 'Wikipedia, V2'.
As for what this is; it appears that it's a wiki for MTGS and MTG. I wouldn't make an assumption as to what it is, however.
Perhaps the Coloholics Anonymous article should be... merged with TFE's page.
That someone is me...
I believe I'm a contributing factor to why it's this way. I continued from another's/others' (mini-)projects; if this is a matter of blame, then I won't mention others, and it should be a matter of such nature anyhow.
Yeah... so this is where I'm going to say I'm sorry I didn't see this before...
I've edited a message onto GeoMike's user talk page, with regards to CAPTCHA tech, but seeing as 4chan (I don't really know who/what they/it is now; I once read about them/it/whatever, and it didn't make too great an impression) has human users, I doubt it will have any effect, other than irritate registering editors.
Actually... hm... let me think...
I don't know to be honest. It looks like I myself have a dynamic IP address (I'm the editor on that competitor wiki whose IP talk page has redirects to others), and I'm not sure how that, or other dynamic IP's, work in relation to blocks.
I think it won't help.
MORT, when we block accounts, I believe we may also be blocking the IP's; not only that, we're preventing "account creation" or something.
Well, VoA says we actually can, but we need to upgrade the wiki software.
My thoughts exactly.
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Seeing as I wasn't the only one with that unlikely-to-happen, hypothetical situation, I guess that's completely out-of-the-picture now.
Maybe the only thing ordinary users and sysops can do in response to vandalism is just revert it. Hannes is probably the only one who can stop a full-scale invasion, or maybe VoiceOfAll(MTG).
Pretty much, as far as invasion targets go, wikis really aren't that satisfying. The goal would be nothing short of changing/deleting every article, which would be very fast to fix. Just shut down the wiki and revert the whole thing to a certain date.
Nothing permanent can happen without serious hacking, so we just have to be ready to do a lot of cleanup.
mtg - satire - photoshoppery - strategy - arcade - PMO - chat
At first, and at the time that CA was truly affiliated with MTGS, TFE was the primary source of the leadership.
Now CA is a completely seperate entity; and as such, its mention should be in TFE's Wiki as a historical Entry; as this is of MTGS's history, not a plug for CA.
On another note, it's truly saddening this happened, and i hope you resolve it quickly.
I SMELLS HISTORAY.
Yes, "you smells historay".
Mmm... I think the whole entry has been kept.
Doesn't matter.
Ok.
Lol, timely of me or anyone, huh.
General gist of vandalism nowadays; it's gone down, with the implementation of CAPTCHA (upon registration).
Blocking users is also easier.