I'm not new to the deckbuilding section of MTGS. I used to be around pretty regularly, but I've recently started a blog (click here) where I've been posting up my concepts and ideas. Since then, I haven't been posting much on MTGS, because I like to use my blog for my creative outlet. Some of you might remember my semi-successful and very popular Chancellor's Rites deck.
Well I'm back with a new fun and deceptively powerful deck. I know there is alot of discussion about both Simic Elves and Biovisionary as separate deck concepts. I've been working to combine the two and splash black for some help.
Here are a couple of pictures I've blogged with some fun wins:
[ Click ] Decklist (+Article if you click "Back to MTGRZ")
[ Click ] My first Biomancer win
[ Click ] You don't need Biomancer to win!
[ Click ] Silly red deck. You're not faster than me!
[ Click ] First ever Garruk ultimate win!
[ Click ] First update to the list (See attached article for reasons for changes)
QUICK NOTES
- I've done a quick write up for some tips and synergies (Located Here).
- Against control, I usually go for the full-aggro approach. I like to side out the 5 combo pieces (3 Biovisionary and 2 Infinite Reflections) to make room for better cards in the matchup (2 Duress, 2 Golgari Charm, and 1 Vraska, the Unseen). There are other cards that can make it into the deck depending on the type of control.
- Against aggro, I usually just try to chum up the board and combo off for the win with Visionary, though dropping an Infinite Reflection on an Elvish Archdruid will turn a stall into a win for you as well.
CONCLUSION
I'm gonna keep testing this, and if you have access to the cards, I'd encourage you to test as well! I can use any help you offer (my original list didn't have Golgari Charm until it was suggested!).
Also, if you like seeing alot of different brews, both new/innovative, or variations of existing decks (I'm working on Esper Control and American Flash still), please follow my blog if you're on Tumblr, or bookmark it if you're not (though signing up for Tumblr is a good idea since there is a great MTG community and you can help me with my stats :D).
Have you ever though about adding craterhoof in the sidebar for the agro? I think that could help out drastically.
I sold my Craterhoof's on MTGO to help pay for RTR Shock lands. Since then, Reanimator has made a rise, and they're now around 12 tickets. If I had them, I'd fit 1 in the main and 1 in the SB.
I'm curious as to how well general clone effects (Cackling Counterpart, for example) would work here. On one hand, they give your Biovisionary a better chance to combo and can start pumping out some serious ramp with your Archdruids; on the other, they're pretty much atrocious with evolve most of the time.
Also, why Prime Speaker Zegana? I get that she's an excellent card, but unless you can pump up a big dude with Denizen, She'll never be bigger than a 4/4 draw 4 in normal gameplay, and that's being optimistic. I'd personally look for something a bit more reliably beefy to finish.
Also, you need some sort of Lead the Stampede card. Tracker's Instinct is what I know that is closest to LTS.
The rest should be focused on midrange if the deck won't combo off.
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I'm curious as to how well general clone effects (Cackling Counterpart, for example) would work here. On one hand, they give your Biovisionary a better chance to combo and can start pumping out some serious ramp with your Archdruids; on the other, they're pretty much atrocious with evolve most of the time.
Also, why Prime Speaker Zegana? I get that she's an excellent card, but unless you can pump up a big dude with Denizen, She'll never be bigger than a 4/4 draw 4 in normal gameplay, and that's being optimistic. I'd personally look for something a bit more reliably beefy to finish.
It's hard enough to get double blue for Zegana (a 6 drop). I don't think Counterpart is where I want to be with this deck. I know it's popular in the Biovisionary as the only win-con decks, but this isn't that deck.
Zegana isn't a finisher. She's an effective attacker/blocker. Most of the time, she's only a 4/4 or a 5/5, but that still draws me 4-5 cards, which is why I play it. This means that I can find my combo pieces more reliably, even though there's only 3 and 2 of each.
Trust me, even at 4/4, Zegana is a PHENOMENAL card.
Also, you need some sort of Lead the Stampede card. Tracker's Instinct is what I know that is closest to LTS.
The rest should be focused on midrange if the deck won't combo off.
So what your saying is, "you should build a different deck". Let me just get this straight so I don't get a bunch more of these types of comments; this isn't a "Biovisionary Combo Deck". It is an Elf deck that wins alot of its matches with the Biovisionary combo. The card draw + the ability to make my aggro opponents attacks bad or put pressure on my control opponent is what wins the game. Either my opponent sits and waits for something to let his creatures attack, and I win with Biovisionary, or my opponent tries to play control, and I win with the Elf beats (with a chance of comboing off until I side it out).
I understand there are decks that try to populate counterpart tokens, but I feel that's a pretty clunky and unreliable route.
There are two Biomancers in the deck and two Zegana. I think it works out. Seriously, try Zegana and you'll understand. She's not an endgame. She's an efficient creature that draws me cards.
INTRODUCTION
I'm not new to the deckbuilding section of MTGS. I used to be around pretty regularly, but I've recently started a blog (click here) where I've been posting up my concepts and ideas. Since then, I haven't been posting much on MTGS, because I like to use my blog for my creative outlet. Some of you might remember my semi-successful and very popular Chancellor's Rites deck.
Well I'm back with a new fun and deceptively powerful deck. I know there is alot of discussion about both Simic Elves and Biovisionary as separate deck concepts. I've been working to combine the two and splash black for some help.
DECKLIST
Original List
First Update
4 Arbor Elf
4 Deathrite Shamen
4 Elvish Visionary
3 Gyre Sage
2 Zameck Guildmage
4 Elvish Archdruid
3 Biovisionary
2 Ivy Lane Denizen
2 Prime Speaker Zegana
Planeswalkers
2 Garruk Relentless
1 Garruk, Primal Hunter
1 Gogari Charm
2 Urban Evolution
2 Infinite Reflections
Lands
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Breeding Pools
2 Woodland Cemetary
4 Hinterland Harbor
6 Forest
1 Island
1 Swamp
2 Evolving Wilds
2 Duress
2 Cyclonic Rift
2 Golgari Charm
1 Simic Charm
2 Sever The Bloodline
1 Vraska, the Unseen
3 Thragtusk
1 Wolfir Silverheart
1 Silklash Spider
Here are a couple of pictures I've blogged with some fun wins:
[ Click ] Decklist (+Article if you click "Back to MTGRZ")
[ Click ] My first Biomancer win
[ Click ] You don't need Biomancer to win!
[ Click ] Silly red deck. You're not faster than me!
[ Click ] First ever Garruk ultimate win!
[ Click ] First update to the list (See attached article for reasons for changes)
QUICK NOTES
- I've done a quick write up for some tips and synergies (Located Here).
- Against control, I usually go for the full-aggro approach. I like to side out the 5 combo pieces (3 Biovisionary and 2 Infinite Reflections) to make room for better cards in the matchup (2 Duress, 2 Golgari Charm, and 1 Vraska, the Unseen). There are other cards that can make it into the deck depending on the type of control.
- Against aggro, I usually just try to chum up the board and combo off for the win with Visionary, though dropping an Infinite Reflection on an Elvish Archdruid will turn a stall into a win for you as well.
CONCLUSION
I'm gonna keep testing this, and if you have access to the cards, I'd encourage you to test as well! I can use any help you offer (my original list didn't have Golgari Charm until it was suggested!).
Also, if you like seeing alot of different brews, both new/innovative, or variations of existing decks (I'm working on Esper Control and American Flash still), please follow my blog if you're on Tumblr, or bookmark it if you're not (though signing up for Tumblr is a good idea since there is a great MTG community and you can help me with my stats :D).
I sold my Craterhoof's on MTGO to help pay for RTR Shock lands. Since then, Reanimator has made a rise, and they're now around 12 tickets. If I had them, I'd fit 1 in the main and 1 in the SB.
Also, why Prime Speaker Zegana? I get that she's an excellent card, but unless you can pump up a big dude with Denizen, She'll never be bigger than a 4/4 draw 4 in normal gameplay, and that's being optimistic. I'd personally look for something a bit more reliably beefy to finish.
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Also, you need some sort of Lead the Stampede card. Tracker's Instinct is what I know that is closest to LTS.
The rest should be focused on midrange if the deck won't combo off.
Because it's bad and not worth a slot (my deck isn't built to be a primal surge deck).
It's hard enough to get double blue for Zegana (a 6 drop). I don't think Counterpart is where I want to be with this deck. I know it's popular in the Biovisionary as the only win-con decks, but this isn't that deck.
Zegana isn't a finisher. She's an effective attacker/blocker. Most of the time, she's only a 4/4 or a 5/5, but that still draws me 4-5 cards, which is why I play it. This means that I can find my combo pieces more reliably, even though there's only 3 and 2 of each.
Trust me, even at 4/4, Zegana is a PHENOMENAL card.
So what your saying is, "you should build a different deck". Let me just get this straight so I don't get a bunch more of these types of comments; this isn't a "Biovisionary Combo Deck". It is an Elf deck that wins alot of its matches with the Biovisionary combo. The card draw + the ability to make my aggro opponents attacks bad or put pressure on my control opponent is what wins the game. Either my opponent sits and waits for something to let his creatures attack, and I win with Biovisionary, or my opponent tries to play control, and I win with the Elf beats (with a chance of comboing off until I side it out).
I understand there are decks that try to populate counterpart tokens, but I feel that's a pretty clunky and unreliable route.
1. It is an elf (let your Archdruid provide more mana when on board. Besides, with so much elves in the deck, may be you could run 1-2 Cavern of Souls in main);
2. Master Biomancer itself could also be a huge threat;
3. Master Biomancer could be another option for Infinite Reflections to enchant.
There are two Biomancers in the deck and two Zegana. I think it works out. Seriously, try Zegana and you'll understand. She's not an endgame. She's an efficient creature that draws me cards.