Discard generally isn't that great in multiplayer, but if your gonna play it you definitely want to carry four copies of Syphon Mind as it is insane card advantage, Unnerve is pretty good too.
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On the Liliana's Discard deck:
Take out Wil-o-the-Wisp its not needed.
Up Dark Ritual to four copies for sure.
Four Phrexian Arena is to many take out two.
Add one more Liliana's Caress.
Add two more Swamp, you need more land plain and simple.
Take out one copy of Liliana Vess.
Add one copy of The Rack, this card is insanely strong in discard builds, saying to add only one because I am pretty sure it is on the Vintage restricted list.
On your Faerie Discard deck:
Take out Peppersmoke its not that great of a card.
Take out Funeral Charm, Duress is better.
Add four Duress. Bitterblossom is awesome if you can afford two more copies of it than add two.
Take out one Phyrexian Arena, with Bitterblossom already in the deck you don't want too many suicidal cards.
Add a fourth copy of Hymn to Tourach.
Four Cloak and Dagger is to many take out two of them.
Take out one Noggin Whack.
Add four Swamp, again your land count is way too low, 22 to 24 is usually ideal.
Take out the two Liliana Vess.
Add two Bad Moon, with the Bitterblossom's and basically all your creatures weenie creatures this will help the deck a ton.
Take out Abyssal Specter for Hypnotic Specter , and play four of them not two.
Take out Ravenous Rats for the new M11 card [card] Liliana
s Specter [/card].
Take out Megrim you don't need them when you already have the Liliana's Caress . I would add more creatures in there place, probably add four Nyxathid .
That would leave you still with only 12 creatures, which is very few, I would also lose Necrogen Mists for four Guul Draz Specter .
Also if you can I would recommend getting one more copy of Liliana Vess .
Also as the poster above noted there is an entire primer that says everything you could want to know about discard at the top of this thread, I would recommend scanning through it.
Also about not having easy access to Hymn to Tourach or Hypnotic Specter you can order Hymn's online for about 75 cents each and Hypnotic's for about 2 dollars each.
One other thing you need to remember is you also need to make your deck be a newbie deck, and take out things that would confuse a new player from your deck as well.
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I wouldn't have Nyxathid in a deck for a nelw player. It could be confusing and frustrate them.
Same thing with Gatekeeper of Malakir , I wouldn't introduce cards with things like 'kicker' right away. If he seems to get the game and is going well than after a few weeks you could put these more complicated cards in the deck.
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Also everything in your deck has a low CMC so Cabal Coffers is useless, take them out for four more Swamp.
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Take out Wil-o-the-Wisp its not needed.
Up Dark Ritual to four copies for sure.
Four Phrexian Arena is to many take out two.
Add one more Liliana's Caress.
Add two more Swamp, you need more land plain and simple.
Take out one copy of Liliana Vess.
Add one copy of The Rack, this card is insanely strong in discard builds, saying to add only one because I am pretty sure it is on the Vintage restricted list.
So that is:
-3 Wil-o-the-Wisp
-2 Phyrexian Arena
-1 Liliana Vess
+2 Dark Ritual
+1 Liliana's Caress
+2 Swamp
+1 The Rack
On your Faerie Discard deck:
Take out Peppersmoke its not that great of a card.
Take out Funeral Charm, Duress is better.
Add four Duress.
Bitterblossom is awesome if you can afford two more copies of it than add two.
Take out one Phyrexian Arena, with Bitterblossom already in the deck you don't want too many suicidal cards.
Add a fourth copy of Hymn to Tourach.
Four Cloak and Dagger is to many take out two of them.
Take out one Noggin Whack.
Add four Swamp, again your land count is way too low, 22 to 24 is usually ideal.
Take out the two Liliana Vess.
Add two Bad Moon, with the Bitterblossom's and basically all your creatures weenie creatures this will help the deck a ton.
So basically:
-3 Peppersmoke
-4 Funeral Charm
-1 Phyrexian Arena
-2 Cloak and Dagger
-1 Noggin Whack
-2 Liliana Vess
+4 Duress
+2 Bitterblossom
+1 Hymn to Tourach
+4 Swamp
+2 Bad Moon
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i would takw our Basilik Collar to make room for The Rack
Take out Doom Blade for Tendrils of Corruption, which can not only kill any creature, incluind black one (whichDoom Blade, but the tendrils will gain you life as well.
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Take out Abyssal Specter for Hypnotic Specter , and play four of them not two.
Take out Ravenous Rats for the new M11 card [card] Liliana
s Specter [/card].
Take out Megrim you don't need them when you already have the Liliana's Caress . I would add more creatures in there place, probably add four Nyxathid .
That would leave you still with only 12 creatures, which is very few, I would also lose Necrogen Mists for four Guul Draz Specter .
Also if you can I would recommend getting one more copy of Liliana Vess .
Also as the poster above noted there is an entire primer that says everything you could want to know about discard at the top of this thread, I would recommend scanning through it.
Also about not having easy access to Hymn to Tourach or Hypnotic Specter you can order Hymn's online for about 75 cents each and Hypnotic's for about 2 dollars each.
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Geth's Grimoire should go, I would add two more The Rack in its place.
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Same thing with Gatekeeper of Malakir , I wouldn't introduce cards with things like 'kicker' right away. If he seems to get the game and is going well than after a few weeks you could put these more complicated cards in the deck.
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I would also take out the Royal Assassin for Tendrils of Corruption or Unmake .
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The Rack would fit into this deck nicely.
I would replace Thrashing Wumpus with Crypt Rats or Damnation .
Neither Black Knight or Carnophage make any sense in this deck. I would replace them with four Hypnotic Specter and four Guul Draz Specter .
I would take out Addle . Maybe for Thoughtseize .
Also I would take out the Innocent Blood in favor of Diabolic Edict or Chainer's Edict .
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