MTG Salvation

I'm back with even more tinkering to my green deck. There's now a little splash of black for creature removal with Eradicate. Platinum Angel is in there to keep me alive when my opponents bust out the flyers or an army of pumped up tokens. The problem I'm having now is what to do with Rampaging Baloths. I originally put that card in because it was a 6/6 and combos well with Primeval Titan but after several playthroughs with playsets of those two in my deck, I find that I very rarely end up getting to take advantage of that combo. So my question is what could I change to make this more effective or what's a good replacement for the Baloths? Any green or black(preferably not one that cost more than 2 swamps to cast since I only have 4 swamps available) creature is welcome if it'll help.

Well, I got a good chance to test my last set up (posted a few days ago) this past weekend. Played maybe 10 games with it and now I've made a few more adjustments (posted above). I have almost no way to deal with flyers in my deck but I did not want to change my creatures so I put 1 Wellwisher in and swapped Naturalize for Natural Order so I can gain life back when it's lost to flyers. I also frequently encountered the problem of having 10 plus mana to use every turn but running out of cards so I put Harmonize in to draw cards. I also eliminated Living Wish and put Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary into my deck. My plan is to use Worldly Tutor to hunt for the elf cards I need. The other two changes I made were to add Kozliek, Butcher of Truth into the deck from the sideboard and I bumped the forest count up to 18. The only other major problems I had with this deck was going up against Invisible Stalker, having forestwalk used against me and having color protection used against me but I'm not sure how I could deal with those without making major changes again.

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I suppose as long as it's in a very specific meta (a group of friends), and you have indeed play tested the deck, it could work. In my meta however, there's more board wipe than you can shake a stick at, so if I ran your proposed deck (where your primary ramp is creature ramp), and they wiped the board, I think I'd be absolutely mana/land screwed. If your meta isn't huge on board wipes then I can see it being quite powerful if your opponents ALLOW you to amass so many elves... my friends would deny me that and F me over pretty hard :P. Also I've never seen a deck run on 16 lands... so it looked strange to me at first.

Well they certainly have the cards to remove my mana elves individually, but all it takes is for me to get one hydra out there and they lose focus on the elves haha. I'll have a good opportunity to test the deck out this weekend and see if it can sustain itself with the 16 lands.

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Have you play tested this list? You don't appear to have very much ramp and at only 16 lands I can see you getting mana screwed often, especially if the opponent drops a board wipe clearing the few mana dorks you may have on the board... You really should up the land count to at least 20. I'm at university at the moment and cannot play test this deck but at first glance it looks unplayable due to such a low land count. If you don't want to take out any more creatures, try taking out 1 of 4 different spells you have, e.g. -1 Naturalize, -1 Beast Within, -1 Defense of the Heart, -1 Worldly Tutor and go +4 Forest. After that you might have to look at removing something that's not absolutely necessary in favor of more ramp... You want AT LEAST 20 lands in a ramp deck, and that's assuming you have a ton of creature/other ramp which your list does not. Check out the deck list I posted a couple comments before this one; the ramp package I have covers a broad spectrum of ramp abilities (with 22 ramp sources in total if you count the Eldrazi Temples).

Thanks for your response. I should probably give a little more background on why I chose this particular deck. The only time I get to play is with a group of about 4 or 5 guys, one of which plays an exclusively elves deck that has a lot of dangerous enchantments and creatures with dangerous abilities. That's why I have 4 each of the destroy creature and destroy enchantment in my deck.

As far as my mana, I took it down to 16 for a couple of reasons.

1. The Priest of Titania gives me one mana for each elf on the battlefield and in our games, that would be at least 4 by turn 2. By turn 5 that could be 10 elves on the battlefield. My Llanowar Elves will contribute to that total as well as giving me one more mana a piece and Living Wish will allow me to bring Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary into the game, doubling my forests and again adding another elf to the total.

2. Primeval Titan will bring 2 forests into play immediately and two more any time I attack so as long as I can get those into play I won't run short on any forests and the mana curve is very low already. Plus when teamed with Rampaging Baloths, I'll have a lot of 4/4 tokens out.

I have play tested it through the decked builder app and will get a chance to test it for real in a few days. In all of my tests it was very easy for me to get the mana elves onto the battlefield and in many cases I could quickly my mana pool higher than I could actually spend. In our games, a lot of this will depend on whether or not I can destroy the right creatures, nullify the right creatures and protect my own things with Privileged Postion. Luckily I will not face any board wipe cards but it would cripple me if it happened early enough to limit the forests I had out. I probably could take out a Defense of the Heart just to bring the card total down another tick. It's not as effective in this deck as it was in my previous green setups.

Alright, I'm back with a completely revamped green deck. I got way too carried away with creatures in my last deck and had basically zero synergy, and no instant or enchantment cards to speak of. I'd love to get some feedback on this particular setup. The only problem I foresee is the lack of ability to draw cards without getting Garruk in from the sideboard. I also had Asceticism in my deck but took it out because of the overlap with PP.

So I switched up my deck a little bit. I knocked it down to 65 cards now. It feels less powerful though. I'd like to get Champion of Lambholt and Dungrove Elder in there too but I didn't know what to take out.

My friends and I play casual magic most of the time so I built this deck for those games and I wanted some feedback.



That's 70 total because I couldn't bring myself to cut out 10 more cards. I was considering adding 1 more each of Primeval Titan, Rampaging Baloths and Bellowing Tanglewurm but I couldn't decide which 3 cards to remove so I can stay at 70.

I also have a white deck and a black/red deck but I'll share those some other time.