This is not a new concept, but I'm trying to strike a good balance between including some of the genuinely worst cards, while also making sure included cards are relevant in a limited environment (i.e. no Laces, Sorrow's Path,Psychic Vortex. Card count is fluid, probably have too many lands, and I'm aware that spells are generally stronger than creatures in this cube, but that's somewhat unavoidable.
I'll have more card selection thoughts here later, this is just a bit of a placeholder/list dump for now. Still needs extensive playtesting.
@Gmail
Seems a bit too good for a mere mana. Try to up the CMC of the card slightly. A proper CMC is probably 3B, this increase in mana also allows you to mess around with the P/T a little bit. Though even then it just seems a tad too good.
A new Recall. A skilltester variant.
Unquestionable WisdomU
Instant R
<CARDNAME> costs 1 more to cast for each permanent you control.
Draw three cards.
At first sight it may seem impossible to cast, but it really isn't.
- Hiss.
I think this wouldn't be printed in this form, it's pretty good in Eternal formats for Storm and Faerie Stompy without being playable by anyone else. It's not so much skilltesting as build-around
Abiogenesis 2UG
Enchantment (R)
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control no creatures, you may look at the top card of your library. If it is a creature card, you may put that creature onto the battlefield.
I was trying to design a card to combo with Forbidden Ritual, but I gave up. Too hard.
Reinforced Bunker4
Artifact (R)
Permanents caused by ~ to enter the battlefield or leave the battlefield don’t cause abilities to trigger.
When you lose control of ~, return all cards exiled with it to the battlefield under your control. Permanents entering the battlefield this way don’t cause abilities to trigger. 2: Exile target untapped nontoken creature you control. 1: Return target creature card you own exiled with ~ to the battlefield under your control tapped.
This is effectively phasing with a "that creature does not phase in during your untap step". This may help you reduce rulestext a bit. Even so, it's still very wordy, even if the idea is reasonably grokkable.
Seedstorm2G
Sorcery (U)
Search your library for a basic land card and put it onto the battlefield tapped, then put a 1/1 green Saproling token into play for each land card that came onto the battlefield this turn. Shuffle your library.
Value town! I really like it. I'm perfectly OK with this quasi-obsoleting Wood Elves. Good 3 drop in limited, still a dead draw late, does fun things with Azusa, Lost But Seeking and Warp World, etc.
Noxious Fertilization1BG
Sorcery (U)
Search your library for a Forest card and put it onto the battlefield tapped. Creatures get -1/-1 until end of turn.
Riffing off gmail's idea (or maybe just got lost on the way to the "I don't like you" card creation game thread.
Blood NeedlesBR
Instant (U)
Untap target creature and put a -1/-1 counter on it. That creature gains first strike and deathtouch until end of turn. Blood outside the body is never a good sign.
The untap/unleash thing is sort of cute, and it's very much a mindless Rakdos card. Yes, I will run this. Yes with it, I will always turn my guys sideways, if you block, you lose a dude. If you skip blocks and then counterattack, you lose a dude. I don't love it, but it's a reasonable limited combat trick/removal.
Gird the Guards5WW
Sorcery (r)
For each creature you control, you may search your library for an Equipment card that creature could equip and put into onto the battlefield attached to that creature.
Somewhat dodgy wording, but I think Sovereigns of Lost Alara is adequate precedent. I like it somewhat more in this version than an X spell. Yes I like topdown designs with silly names. Too scared to allow to CMC 6, but it feels a little underwhelming at 7.
Paradise DomeG
Enchantment (R) 0: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. Activate this ability only once during your turn and only if you've controlled ~ continuously since the beginning of your most recent turn.
I'm not sure why, but this feels much less spicy than Birds of Paradise. Maybe
Paradise Dome v2.0G
Enchantment (r)
At the beginning of your upkeep, if ~ has no charge counters on it, put a charge counter on it.
Remove a charge counter: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
instead, so Johnny gets something more interesting to play with?
Posted this card before but it got skipped. Blood Moon/Ghost Quarter hybrid. Originally turned target land into a basic Mountain, but memory issues, etc. This uses an exchange effect to make sure you can't sacrifice this in response or other shenanigans.
Talus Slopes
Land [R]
~ enters the battlefield tapped with a rock counter. t: Add R to your mana pool. R,t, remove a rock counter from Talus Slopes: Exchange control of Talus Slopes and target nonbasic land an opponent controls. If you do, sacrifice that land.
I'm wondering if either first or double strike should be on the red one and lifelink should be on the white one, just so it doesn't look like one mode is "strictly worse" than the other one on the same card.
I agree. I'd move first strike as it's more common than landwalk in red, anyway, I think? More than a couple landwalkers in a set will make a really wonky Limited format. Also, if those Discipline cards are printed (with enough keyworded creatures) I would play the crap out of them in Limited.
I agree Eons could probably cost less. Open the Vaults is far from broken. Is there some techy reason why tokens need to be exiled explicitly, since either way they cease to exist as soon as they enter another zone?
Tangleworld Hydra has great flavor. What a fun card. "Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, ~ fights that creature" makes me laugh.
Occulomancy seems maybe overcosted? Eight mana seems like a lot to pay for an unreliable benefit. Funny blue shell effect in multiplayer, though.
Scatterspell is crazy good in Commander, where Spelljack is already frequently played. Maybe add a "you don't control" clause? On second thought, Jhoira of the Ghitu doesn't break this like I thought it would, so it might be fine if there's no better way to abuse this than Dream Halls or mana ramp.
War Martyr1W
Creature - Soldier (R) 1W: Attach any number of Auras and/or Equipments attached to War Martyr to another target creature you control. Activate this ability only if War Martyr is blocked. "You'll need this more than I will!"
- Fennor, Third Mate, last words
Comments?
Whoops. Sarnathed.
What's the power/toughness?
He seems fine. I'd like to see him at least 2/1. I don't know that he needs to be rare, because his ability is slow, conditional, and massively telegraphed to your opponent.
NEXT: Talus Slopes
Land t: Add 1 to your mana pool. R,t, sacrifice Talus Slopes: Destroy target nonbasic land. That land's controller may search your library for a Mountain card and put it into play tapped.
Talus Slopes
Land
~ enters the battlefield tapped with a rock counter. t: Add R to your mana pool. R,t, remove a rock counter from Talus Slopes: Exchange control of Talus Slopes and target nonbasic land an opponent controls, then sacrifice that land.
[QUOTE=fooligan;10200065 2G
Sorcery (?)
Put target land on top of its owners library.
Scry 2
Thinking something weather related or seasonal?[/QUOTE]
Spring Frost? Ley-grass would be a good name for a land card that did something similar. Spate and river erosion words are too blue-sounding.
Anyway, I don't know if I'm totally comfortable with Fallow Earth being obsoleted, mostly from bad memories of being Plow Under locked by Rock decks, but it's probably fine.
Basically what you wanted (albeit with some additional interaction with Time Spiral block cards).
RiftwarWUR
Enchantment
Whenever a creature without suspend attacks, exile it with two time counters and it gains suspend.
Creatures with suspend must attack each turn if able.
At the end of each player's turn, all creatures lose suspend.
Grim HeraldBUG
Creature - Zombie Shaman (R)
Whenever a creature you control dies, name a creature card. Reveal the top four cards of your library and put all of them with that name into your hand.
Sacrifice a creature: Draw a card.
3/3
T: Target creature attacks or blocks this turn if able. If that creature is a Cleric, destroy it at end of combat.
Whenever a creature dies, gain control of all equipment attached to it.
1/4
He's fine, powerwise, maybe a bit too weak even. I'd love to see him sexed up a bit for EDH. Maybe "Target creature attacks target player this turn if able"?
I have trouble imagining the class-matters, equipment-matters set he could be in, as we've seen a lot of those themes already. Finally, 4 toughness seems like too much for a sneaky skulky guy who loots corpses.
Tide of Lunacy1RR
Instant [U]
Untap target creature. Until end of turn, that creature is a Werewolf in addition to its other types and gains haste. You control that creature as long as it is a Werewolf.
A trifle wordy and minor memory issues, but I still like it as a top-down design (the name spawned the concept).
That is a good point. I only play commander and hadn't really considered how the card would effect other formats. I guess I figured that people would shy away from the WUBRG cost.
I'm interested in hearing other opinions on this; Does the ability to play 4 Bogardan Hellkites make or break the card?
I think probably does. The five color casting cost makes it even more attractive to Dream Halls this.
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This is not a new concept, but I'm trying to strike a good balance between including some of the genuinely worst cards, while also making sure included cards are relevant in a limited environment (i.e. no Laces, Sorrow's Path,Psychic Vortex. Card count is fluid, probably have too many lands, and I'm aware that spells are generally stronger than creatures in this cube, but that's somewhat unavoidable.
I'll have more card selection thoughts here later, this is just a bit of a placeholder/list dump for now. Still needs extensive playtesting.
Time Tunnel 1U
Instant
Split second
Exile target spell. If you do, that spell's controller casts it without paying its mana cost. It has split second.
Cribbed from the wording of suspend. "If you do" clause added for copied spell corner cases, but may be unnecessary.
I think this wouldn't be printed in this form, it's pretty good in Eternal formats for Storm and Faerie Stompy without being playable by anyone else. It's not so much skilltesting as build-around
Abiogenesis 2UG
Enchantment (R)
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control no creatures, you may look at the top card of your library. If it is a creature card, you may put that creature onto the battlefield.
I was trying to design a card to combo with Forbidden Ritual, but I gave up. Too hard.
This is effectively phasing with a "that creature does not phase in during your untap step". This may help you reduce rulestext a bit. Even so, it's still very wordy, even if the idea is reasonably grokkable.
Value town! I really like it. I'm perfectly OK with this quasi-obsoleting Wood Elves. Good 3 drop in limited, still a dead draw late, does fun things with Azusa, Lost But Seeking and Warp World, etc.
Noxious Fertilization 1BG
Sorcery (U)
Search your library for a Forest card and put it onto the battlefield tapped. Creatures get -1/-1 until end of turn.
Riffing off gmail's idea (or maybe just got lost on the way to the "I don't like you" card creation game thread.
The untap/unleash thing is sort of cute, and it's very much a mindless Rakdos card. Yes, I will run this. Yes with it, I will always turn my guys sideways, if you block, you lose a dude. If you skip blocks and then counterattack, you lose a dude. I don't love it, but it's a reasonable limited combat trick/removal.
Gird the Guards 5WW
Sorcery (r)
For each creature you control, you may search your library for an Equipment card that creature could equip and put into onto the battlefield attached to that creature.
Somewhat dodgy wording, but I think Sovereigns of Lost Alara is adequate precedent. I like it somewhat more in this version than an X spell. Yes I like topdown designs with silly names. Too scared to allow to CMC 6, but it feels a little underwhelming at 7.
I'm not sure why, but this feels much less spicy than Birds of Paradise. Maybe
Paradise Dome v2.0 G
Enchantment (r)
At the beginning of your upkeep, if ~ has no charge counters on it, put a charge counter on it.
Remove a charge counter: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
Posted this card before but it got skipped. Blood Moon/Ghost Quarter hybrid. Originally turned target land into a basic Mountain, but memory issues, etc. This uses an exchange effect to make sure you can't sacrifice this in response or other shenanigans.
Talus Slopes
Land [R]
~ enters the battlefield tapped with a rock counter.
t: Add R to your mana pool.
R,t, remove a rock counter from Talus Slopes: Exchange control of Talus Slopes and target nonbasic land an opponent controls. If you do, sacrifice that land.
Yes, please. This card has needed to exist for a long time.
I agree. I'd move first strike as it's more common than landwalk in red, anyway, I think? More than a couple landwalkers in a set will make a really wonky Limited format. Also, if those Discipline cards are printed (with enough keyworded creatures) I would play the crap out of them in Limited.
Tangleworld Hydra has great flavor. What a fun card. "Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, ~ fights that creature" makes me laugh.
Occulomancy seems maybe overcosted? Eight mana seems like a lot to pay for an unreliable benefit. Funny blue shell effect in multiplayer, though.
Scatterspell is crazy good in Commander, where Spelljack is already frequently played. Maybe add a "you don't control" clause? On second thought, Jhoira of the Ghitu doesn't break this like I thought it would, so it might be fine if there's no better way to abuse this than Dream Halls or mana ramp.
Whoops. Sarnathed.
What's the power/toughness?
He seems fine. I'd like to see him at least 2/1. I don't know that he needs to be rare, because his ability is slow, conditional, and massively telegraphed to your opponent.
NEXT:
Talus Slopes
Land
t: Add 1 to your mana pool.
R,t, sacrifice Talus Slopes: Destroy target nonbasic land. That land's controller may search your library for a Mountain card and put it into play tapped.
Talus Slopes
Land
~ enters the battlefield tapped with a rock counter.
t: Add R to your mana pool.
R,t, remove a rock counter from Talus Slopes: Exchange control of Talus Slopes and target nonbasic land an opponent controls, then sacrifice that land.
A Ghost Quarter/Blood Moon variant. Not certain which variant is better/more balanced.
2G
Sorcery (?)
Put target land on top of its owners library.
Scry 2
Thinking something weather related or seasonal?[/QUOTE]
Spring Frost? Ley-grass would be a good name for a land card that did something similar. Spate and river erosion words are too blue-sounding.
Anyway, I don't know if I'm totally comfortable with Fallow Earth being obsoleted, mostly from bad memories of being Plow Under locked by Rock decks, but it's probably fine.
Riftwar WUR
Enchantment
Whenever a creature without suspend attacks, exile it with two time counters and it gains suspend.
Creatures with suspend must attack each turn if able.
At the end of each player's turn, all creatures lose suspend.
Still pretty heinous.
Grim Herald BUG
Creature - Zombie Shaman (R)
Whenever a creature you control dies, name a creature card. Reveal the top four cards of your library and put all of them with that name into your hand.
Sacrifice a creature: Draw a card.
3/3
He's fine, powerwise, maybe a bit too weak even. I'd love to see him sexed up a bit for EDH. Maybe "Target creature attacks target player this turn if able"?
I have trouble imagining the class-matters, equipment-matters set he could be in, as we've seen a lot of those themes already. Finally, 4 toughness seems like too much for a sneaky skulky guy who loots corpses.
Tide of Lunacy 1RR
Instant [U]
Untap target creature. Until end of turn, that creature is a Werewolf in addition to its other types and gains haste. You control that creature as long as it is a Werewolf.
A trifle wordy and minor memory issues, but I still like it as a top-down design (the name spawned the concept).
I think probably does. The five color casting cost makes it even more attractive to Dream Halls this.