I think i might take out 2 steel overseer's and put in 2 lodestones. It gives you something against combo-ish decks and he's a good body for 4 even if you're having a bad game. Personally I'd cut the overseers completely but that's just because i'm not a huge fan of the card. Vault Skirge is good in this especially with swords or jitte out so i'd definitely keep him. Ethersworn canonist is a beast if you splash white
No offense, I mean this deck looks solid and all but, you have Sol Ring, Black Lotus, Lotus Petal, and a Mox in almost all your decks. I personally feel like this is sort of a cop-out. Drawing a hand with a singleton of any one of these on your first turn isn't really an indicator of how the deck performs, and personally i don't even think it's fun at that point. Don't get me wrong, this deck slays most decks that aren't going to win on turn zero. You also might have trouble against certain burn variants. I think Lodestone golem would be a good addition.
Are you intent on making this an artifact/ goblin deck? Because if you are that's cool, there's some synergy with some of the stuff you have here, but there's also some 'fat' i think you could cut.
To be honest, adaptive automaton is kind of bad here. There are better lords for every tribe out there and automaton exists for players who want to build neat-quirky decks around creature types that don't have many (or any lords at all) like ogres or ninjas or something. The Kuldotha Rebirth + Memnite is a neat little trick, but there are better ways to get goblin tokens out. I will agree that it's a nice first turn to draw memnite, mountain, and rebirth, you can swing on the next turn with a kicked bushwacker and start the game off pretty well. The problem here is when you draw memnites on your 7th and 8th turn. Ideally the game shouldn't take that long with this deck, but the point remains the same, you're using 2 cards to get 3 1/1 tokens which isn't really that efficient as the game goes by. I also agree that Reverberate is another generally bad and gimmicky card that doesn't really fit in here. You shouldn't be using mana to copy spells, you'd be better off just playing Lightning Bolts. Your goal is just to kill them ASAP before their combo, plan, or big spells come out. I don't know what kind of budget you're on but Goblin Guide, Goblin Lackey, and Goblin Piledriver are some of the best goblins out there, especially the Piledriver, he will win games on his own easily. Mogg War Marshall is also a pretty efficient creature.
I think Kobo could be represented by Imawori of the Open Fist, or Humble Budoka, although both spells are green.
I LOVE this idea, i've loved the lore in MTG above all else. And the Kamigawa block in my opinion had the best set of books (also really really enjoyed the Tezzeret book)
Loxodon Warhammer has amazing synergy with Hidetsugu and can win you the game in multiplayer. It's still pretty beast on it's own.
I used to run a control/burn deck with Toshi using Forbidden Orchard and Varchild's Warriders along with Night of Soul's Betrayal to basically just give them creatures that would then die triggering Toshi's effect
I think this card is really strong, even as just 5 mana for permanent removal. I think i feel like it's missing something though, maybe something old school like flashback, or even kicker. I haven't seen kicker in a while and it would be cool to be able to grab say 2 extra permanents for an additional 5 mana? Maybe that makes it too strong but hey, just a thought. As is, I would run this in Mono B control.
I had this idea a long time ago, the name is still up in the air, couldn't really think of anything
Vesh, the Wanderer2UG
+1 You may put a 2/2 green/blue mutant creature with changeling into play
0 Target creature gains +2/+2 and changeling until end of turn
-2 Search your library for a creature card with converted mana cost 3 or less and put it in your hand, skip your next draw step
-6 You get an emblem with :All nonland cards in your library, hand, battlefield, and graveyard have all creature types at all times.
This planeswalker was inspired by the riptide stuff from onslaught. I had the idea for him thinking about making a UG tribal deck and i thought it'd be cool if there was a better way of using different creature types together for example, an Elf, Merfolk, Samurai, Snake, Illusion, Elemental, Soldier, Warrior, Wolf deck... you get the idea.
The third ability might be a little strong as a tutor, but the idea for the planeswalker himself was that, as a result of the destruction of the Riptide project, Vesh was born and discovered he had the ability to shapeshift, he used this ability to blend in with many different cultures on Dominaria and became something of an ambassador type between tribes ( hence his ability to bring creature types together, the idea for the tutor was to be able to say, bring a lord of atlantis and Elvish champion out together) His ability to planeswalk allowed him to continue his business on many planes, Lorwyn, Kamigawa, etc...
Yeah i know Vigor doesn't interact well with the counters from planeswalkers, it can however get me a *****ton of wurm or beast tokens
I like the Idea of using the ajanis... but i'm a little opposed to making this a 3 color deck. I specifically like Ajani Steadfast for his ability to boost other planeswalker's loyalty count. Would doubling season interact with that?
Going to look up some good counter/token white cards
The idea for this deck is pretty much to play doubling season/primal vigor, and follow with garruk/rings of brighthearth
This is a very barebones idea and just the skeleton of the deck so far without any removal or draw
I am aware that Planeswalkers don't actually get double counters from activating abilities, they do however come into play with double counters, which enables you to do some cool ***** with Garruk the turn he comes into play
I saw Crosis' Attendant for the first time the other day, and i realized "**** man, it's Ironman..." Which got me thinking if i could find similar cards with art that resembled the other avengers and/or things related to them.
I'm hoping you guys could help me figure out how to build a deck around this idea.
The goal would be to have one creature who represents each hero (maybe more if we're talking about a different form of them) and spells, auras, equipment to back them up.
What would you replace the counterspell/bounce package with? I could get FOW's, but that's such a powerful card that it'd be kind of misplaced in a deck like this. If that makes any sense, if i'm gonna spend that much i might as well go all out and make a very competetive netdeck with the FOW's, in which case i wouldn't be trying to make an aggroblue deck.
I've been working on trying to perfect this deck for some time now. It's pretty strong but i think it could be better. I have 2 Jittes and i think they might fit nicely, although sword of feast and famine might be better for having mana open to counter spells
The idea is simple, race your opponent with unblockable creatures, equipping them with things like swords and battle-axe. Use open mana to counter spells and bounce threats that you couldn't counter at the time.
I kind of like Hobgoblin Dragoon because he's easy to play for this deck,but it does seem like for 1 more mana the Messenger Falcon is better. I also was thinking maybe I should find a way to include 2 of each aura or two of just some of them seeing as how they are the center of the deck.
Basically just adding more of the cheaper ones. Also a few things aren't that great in here. Sewn-Eye Drake and Giant Ambush Beetle fit the theme perfectly but while their not hard to play, i think i could be doing better for 4 or 5 mana. They're main advantage is haste, in a deck that needs to enchant them the next turn anyways for them to be good.
I think I need a way to get enchantments back in hand once i've lost them. I also really like Cromat but I think for him to be any good in here he'd need support like his corresponding signets.
So you might laugh, but yugioh will always have a spot in my heart, i grew up with that show and honestly the best days of yugioh (and magic for that matter) are when you are just starting, and you don't have " 4of's " of all the best cards and you use stuff because it's cool. Oh, and if you're lucky you start to get a theme and a gameplan going with your cards having some cool interactions, wouldn't call them combos because nobody's deck is that consistent when they just start out, just neat tricks. The most fun creatures you had weren't all that great, objectively speaking they probably sucked. To be honest some of my first good cards I had when i started magic were:
An older guy at a summer class I took at a community college when i was 13 threw together some stuff in his box for me and gave me a deck for 5 bucks, it was black and red and i loved it. Later i traded to get more green cards when i saw a guy use Elvish Piper to play a Craw Wurm .
In this deck I want to avoid rare and powerful creatures as much as possible, and while I want it to be consistently good, it shouldn't be overwhelming. Enough that I can play some newer guys I know and give them a chance, and strong enough that if I'm playing to win I can take down better decks.
I'm still going to use 4of's of really good lands unless someone can think of a better mana base (right now i'd rather just use the pillar of paruns, reflecting pools and avoid the more conditional thran quarry's and ancient ziggurats if i can. If that means running some duals I can do that.
I do want to try and use just 1 of's for most of the rest of the deck if I can, it will give it a more random feel and I like the topdecking yugioh style haha.
The last few creatures in there are up in the air, I'd like to have a few big beaters, kind of like you had in yugioh, everyone had a few signature creatures/monsters. I guess it's more like a general in magic. I really just wanted to build around the lorwyn/shadowmoor auras.
ALSO, I'd love to hear what YOUR first cards were, what you thought was amazing in your first decks.
I wish there were more warriors, or more blue warriors. I want to make a warrior deck that isn't just elves or elementals.
I actually think that if they revisit Kamigawa that the Soritami would make for some cool blue warriors, not many, but just a few. I read that cycle of books just because I was so interested by that set and the Soratami had some deadly warriors (wouldn't really call them samurai).
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To be honest, adaptive automaton is kind of bad here. There are better lords for every tribe out there and automaton exists for players who want to build neat-quirky decks around creature types that don't have many (or any lords at all) like ogres or ninjas or something. The Kuldotha Rebirth + Memnite is a neat little trick, but there are better ways to get goblin tokens out. I will agree that it's a nice first turn to draw memnite, mountain, and rebirth, you can swing on the next turn with a kicked bushwacker and start the game off pretty well. The problem here is when you draw memnites on your 7th and 8th turn. Ideally the game shouldn't take that long with this deck, but the point remains the same, you're using 2 cards to get 3 1/1 tokens which isn't really that efficient as the game goes by. I also agree that Reverberate is another generally bad and gimmicky card that doesn't really fit in here. You shouldn't be using mana to copy spells, you'd be better off just playing Lightning Bolts. Your goal is just to kill them ASAP before their combo, plan, or big spells come out. I don't know what kind of budget you're on but Goblin Guide, Goblin Lackey, and Goblin Piledriver are some of the best goblins out there, especially the Piledriver, he will win games on his own easily. Mogg War Marshall is also a pretty efficient creature.
I LOVE this idea, i've loved the lore in MTG above all else. And the Kamigawa block in my opinion had the best set of books (also really really enjoyed the Tezzeret book)
Loxodon Warhammer has amazing synergy with Hidetsugu and can win you the game in multiplayer. It's still pretty beast on it's own.
I used to run a control/burn deck with Toshi using Forbidden Orchard and Varchild's Warriders along with Night of Soul's Betrayal to basically just give them creatures that would then die triggering Toshi's effect
I had this idea a long time ago, the name is still up in the air, couldn't really think of anything
Vesh, the Wanderer2UG
+1 You may put a 2/2 green/blue mutant creature with changeling into play
0 Target creature gains +2/+2 and changeling until end of turn
-2 Search your library for a creature card with converted mana cost 3 or less and put it in your hand, skip your next draw step
-6 You get an emblem with :All nonland cards in your library, hand, battlefield, and graveyard have all creature types at all times.
This planeswalker was inspired by the riptide stuff from onslaught. I had the idea for him thinking about making a UG tribal deck and i thought it'd be cool if there was a better way of using different creature types together for example, an Elf, Merfolk, Samurai, Snake, Illusion, Elemental, Soldier, Warrior, Wolf deck... you get the idea.
The third ability might be a little strong as a tutor, but the idea for the planeswalker himself was that, as a result of the destruction of the Riptide project, Vesh was born and discovered he had the ability to shapeshift, he used this ability to blend in with many different cultures on Dominaria and became something of an ambassador type between tribes ( hence his ability to bring creature types together, the idea for the tutor was to be able to say, bring a lord of atlantis and Elvish champion out together) His ability to planeswalk allowed him to continue his business on many planes, Lorwyn, Kamigawa, etc...
4 Thrummingbird
4 Tezzeret's Gambit
4 Fuel for the Cause
4 Energy Chamber
2 Throne of Geth
2 Spawning Pit
2 Sun Droplet
2 Power Conduit
3 Golem Foundry
2 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Titan Forge
1 Lux Cannon
2 Contagion Engine
1 Rings of Brighthearth
1 Sol Ring
3 Tezzerett the Seeker
1 Karn Liberated
4 Cloudpost
4 Seat of the Synod
2 Blinkmoth Nexus
8 Island
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Academy Ruins
this is my old decklist when i ran monoblue chargecounters
I don't really think running tron lands is worth it, just my opinion
And Jitte is a must have
I like the Idea of using the ajanis... but i'm a little opposed to making this a 3 color deck. I specifically like Ajani Steadfast for his ability to boost other planeswalker's loyalty count. Would doubling season interact with that?
Going to look up some good counter/token white cards
The idea for this deck is pretty much to play doubling season/primal vigor, and follow with garruk/rings of brighthearth
This is a very barebones idea and just the skeleton of the deck so far without any removal or draw
I am aware that Planeswalkers don't actually get double counters from activating abilities, they do however come into play with double counters, which enables you to do some cool ***** with Garruk the turn he comes into play
I also considered dipping into another color as I know I can't have more than one garruk out at any given time
Jitte also might be good here
Good to be back and can't wait to hear ideas!
I'm hoping you guys could help me figure out how to build a deck around this idea.
The goal would be to have one creature who represents each hero (maybe more if we're talking about a different form of them) and spells, auras, equipment to back them up.
Right now here's what i've got:
IRONMAN
THOR
THE HULK
(Other random cards, Battlergrowth could go on Wolverine, Primoc Escapee looks like Beast, Nova Chaser and Flame Spirit look like the Human Torch)
Captain America just needs to be a human soldier,with some auras and shield related equipment.
Let me know what you guys think! I think this could be really fun.
4 Invisible Stalker
4 Talas Warrior
4 Phantom Warrior
4 Latch Seeker
2 Swords of Fire and Ice
2 Sword of Feast and Famine
4 Counterspell
4 Cryptic Command
4 Psionic Blast
4 Boomerang
The idea is simple, race your opponent with unblockable creatures, equipping them with things like swords and battle-axe. Use open mana to counter spells and bounce threats that you couldn't counter at the time.
maybe like:
Basically just adding more of the cheaper ones. Also a few things aren't that great in here. Sewn-Eye Drake and Giant Ambush Beetle fit the theme perfectly but while their not hard to play, i think i could be doing better for 4 or 5 mana. They're main advantage is haste, in a deck that needs to enchant them the next turn anyways for them to be good.
I think I need a way to get enchantments back in hand once i've lost them. I also really like Cromat but I think for him to be any good in here he'd need support like his corresponding signets.
Savage Firecat
Zombie Assassin
Grotesque Hybrid
Flamewave Invoker
Phyrexian Hulk
Volcanic Dragon
An older guy at a summer class I took at a community college when i was 13 threw together some stuff in his box for me and gave me a deck for 5 bucks, it was black and red and i loved it. Later i traded to get more green cards when i saw a guy use Elvish Piper to play a Craw Wurm .
In this deck I want to avoid rare and powerful creatures as much as possible, and while I want it to be consistently good, it shouldn't be overwhelming. Enough that I can play some newer guys I know and give them a chance, and strong enough that if I'm playing to win I can take down better decks.
I'm still going to use 4of's of really good lands unless someone can think of a better mana base (right now i'd rather just use the pillar of paruns, reflecting pools and avoid the more conditional thran quarry's and ancient ziggurats if i can. If that means running some duals I can do that.
I do want to try and use just 1 of's for most of the rest of the deck if I can, it will give it a more random feel and I like the topdecking yugioh style haha.
Here's what I have so far:
1 Boros Recruit
1 Wild Cantor
1 Manaforge Cinder
1 Slippery Bogle
1 Zealous Guardian
1 Bant Sureblade
1 Esper Stormblade
1 Grixis Grimblade
1 Jund Hackblade
1 Naya Hushblade
1 Mourning Thrull
1 Hobgoblin Dragoon
1 Marisi's Twinclaws
1 Sewn-Eye Drake
1 Giant Ambush Beetle
1 Defiler of Souls
1 Transguild Courier
1 Evershrike
1 Uril, The Miststalker
14 Auras
1 Clout of the Dominus
1 Edge of the Divinity
1 Favor of the Overbeing
1 Steel of the Godhead
1 Helm of the Ghastlord
1 Scourge of the Nobilis
1 Fists of the Demigod
1 Gift of the Deity
1 Runes of the Deus
1 Shield of the Oversoul
4 Trace of Abundance
4 Ancient Ziggurat
4 Pillar of the Paruns
4 Thran Quarry
4 Reflecting Pool
4 Rupture Spire
4 Mirrodin's Core
The last few creatures in there are up in the air, I'd like to have a few big beaters, kind of like you had in yugioh, everyone had a few signature creatures/monsters. I guess it's more like a general in magic. I really just wanted to build around the lorwyn/shadowmoor auras.
ALSO, I'd love to hear what YOUR first cards were, what you thought was amazing in your first decks.
What do you guys think?
4 Invisible Stalker
4 Talas Warrior
4 Phantom Warrior
4 Aven Fleetwing
2 Swords of Fire and Ice
4 Counterspell
4 Mana Leak
4 Cancel
The Obsidian Battle-Axe is just really fun and works well with Phantom Warrior and Talas Warrior
I wish there were more warriors, or more blue warriors. I want to make a warrior deck that isn't just elves or elementals.
I actually think that if they revisit Kamigawa that the Soritami would make for some cool blue warriors, not many, but just a few. I read that cycle of books just because I was so interested by that set and the Soratami had some deadly warriors (wouldn't really call them samurai).