One question I would very much like answered (preferably by a judge here): can I have one Garruk Relentless in my deckbox and have Garruk Relentless checkmarked four times in my deck??? I'd assume that isn't a problem, right?
This is absolutely NOT ok. You need 4 copies of the card 'Garruk Relentless' to play 4 copies, not 4 proxies of it and 1 real copy.
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I was thinking of finding an FNM just to GET these things, they were a great incentive to get casual fence sitters out and play the game. A game they are trying to grow as much as they can. I am not the only one on this planet to be persuaded by this program to do so but now I do not see any real point as I can have much more fun at my kitchen table and not have to deal with super competitive jerks ruining a fun night just to get a few promos. Which I was willing to do but thankfully the wiz kids at wizards/hasboro made my choice for me.
When the CEO of Hasboro (or whoever) is making decisions not based on keeping MTG healthy but on his profit margin then I do not see wizards having very much control of their product anymore. Yeah, they create it but the fact is that even if they are willing to budge a little on the bottom line to make playing MTG as fun as it can be for everyone the company that owns them is not willing to budge in the name of profits.
Uhm, what? Isn't it reasonable to believe that they are going to replace this with a more stable program? Hypothetically, if they turned MPR over to the brick-and-mortars, they could provide a similar (if not better) program at less of a cost. While they haven't said if anything is going to replace it, I'm sure if they do, it will be a more fiscally responsible program than MPR.
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Umm...I don't recall Morphling being exempt from the reserved list. Sinkhole is cool though...
Morphling has been known for a while to be an upcoming promo. When they announced the tightening of the Reserved list (no promos, no anything), they also announcing which cards off the list were being Promo-ized between then and the end of 2010 and where. We got some spoilers that way, of what was going to be in FtV: Relics and Judge promos (Wheel and Morphling)
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I love all the changes, but the cost for the 64 man draft is steep. Having to 3-0 a pod just to see any payout @ 30 bucks per draft is not exciting at all.
What do you expect them to cost it at? I believe they're giving $1100 in prizes, and they have to cover the cost of the product, staff, and site, while being able to have some money for profit.
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Edit before someone replies, "But inflation!" - According to this website, Wizard's booster pack price increases have outpaced inflation, so that they charge $.50/pack more than they did circa Ice Age packs, adjusted for inflation. In case you're curious, that's $1.54/pack price increase since Ice Age, with no adjustment for inflation.
Further edit: That means that every time Wizards has found it necessary to adjust its prices, someone has said, "You know, we could just raise our prices to match inflation, but you know what? Let's really put the screws to our loyal customers and offer the same product for more money (or less value for the same money, if you prefer...) In reply to the post above me, this seems like a rolling douche move over several turns.
What you don't take into account is the increased costs since Ice Age. Increased support for full-time advertising, R&D, software designer positions compared to back in the day.
I feel like adding a minimal cost to a sleeve of basic lands is in most cases a non-issue. It will decrease the demand of a product that isn't really needed in most cases anymore, minimizing print costs. For perspective, it costs them as much to print a land station as it does to print 2/3 of a booster box.
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I think that Venser is good enough to end up being an expensive card, but I think right now Starcity is just selling the Walkers at this pricepoint, because they are afraid that they`re going to end up being really powerfull. Look at TMS. The first pre-order price was about 20$ because the community wasn`t shure whether he is good or not.
Star City is selling the walkers at that pricepoint because that's what the public is paying for them. They started a bunch of Vensers at their site at 15 or 20, they all sold out, so they repriced them at 25 or 30, THEY sold out, so they just keep repricing more preorders at higher and higher pricepoints. It would be silly to keep selling them at 20 when people are willing to pay 40-45 per, eh?
That being said, I know I'll probably get burned by it later, but I don't think Venser is the planeswalker that will be #1 in price from this set. Ms. Tirel does it for me.
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Oh man, I love Memnite. It and Ornithopter in the same standard could make for some fun times.
Also, the art is kind of a twist. Looking at it makes you think that It's some huge creature, but it's just a free little 1/1. It's such a twist in fact, that you could almost say that it's a
Anyways, I think it's a cute little card, and I think that if there are enough good cards with metalcraft on them that it's possible that those two will get rammed into decks.
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I remember those days and each of those cards never got to be 70+ for one copy.
But for the most part, you needed all of these cards to field a reasonable deck. Along with Mutavault. Mutavault peaked in the 50s, i do believe. Perhaps more, I know there were a few months that it was crazy high. And the Fae played them all, including other rares that were considerably high.
EDIT: Shoot. I got into the Mythic Good vs Bad debate...all in all I really like this card, and it's an awesome card, will be played a decent amount, though I don't think it will become a staple.
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Regardless, this isn't the thread to discuss legal theory and its ramifications. Basically we've come to this point:
A man is selling boosters and possibly a fat pack. He will give scans of the cards along with sending it express (Fat pack most likely the book). This is not through any eBay like service, it's a gentleman's agreement. People here are willing to chip in some cash, though no one should be relying on these people to actually fund it (Though I do believe most people will paypal a dollar or two).
I do think its possibly to be sued for revealing stuff before its officially released, ex. The Harry Potter books being released early. But personally I think it should be done. These look to be sealed legitimate boosters etc. I also do not think Wizards will get up in arms about this either, although debatable, they have already 'sold' these boosters.
Uh, what? Blowing apart a carefully constructed 3 week preview season for a brand new block? I'm sure they're jacked, to a point where they may try to do something.
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I'm confused... so emblems are permanent status effects given to players that allow them to do things for the rest of the game and cannot be removed... Emblems would actually be an alarmingly cool mechanic if they appear in more then just this new Elspeth.
Emblems exist in the Command Zone, and they probably came about because they wanted to do other things like Elspeth's ultimate ability but realized that her ability only worked because it was granting indestructibility and not anything else. It does open up space for new effects, and I imagine they have plans for this change, or else they would have just waited to change the rules (or just not change them altogether).
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Don´t get me wrong, the Sword IS a good card with at least one good effect (creating 2/2´s), but milling ten cards is no "big deal". Its simply wrong to describe it as "losing" 10 cards, because your opponent looses nothing. It doesn´t create any kind of advantage for you, and it only bothers your opponent if he lost his last card in his library (at which point he took 10 bonus damage trough the sword alone, and faces 10 additional power - or in other words, he conceded 2 turns ago :tongue:).
What you described is the same thing that happens for any kind of win condition. Your opponent loses nothing for the first 9 poison counters he gets or the first 19 damage he takes. All three situations create an advantage in the sense that your opponent has to start warping how he plays toward preventing himself from losing, and milling may be a more passive way of dying in most cases, but if you're building a mill deck, it can be much more of a dire situation than you describe.
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What do you mean by compete? If they sell the boosters in the same box, then there is no competition.
I was thinking the same thing. This could open up room for a stand-alone set after Scars block that would rotate along with Scars of Mirrodin.
The packs are competing with each other. If one side is more popular, they will sell out quicker than the other. If one side is a complete blank, the other side will sell out almost immediately, leaving the poor side in the booster box. This would leave store owners with a dilemma of opening another box, letting the poor side pile up.
This situation of having 2 different packs in a box may end up leading to stores having to have two different price points for the sets.
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Other that the most obvious argument of all, that Jace and nearly Jace alone is what is selling worldwake as well as it has been. If they were to reprint Jace in m11, in an allready packed set value wise, they would be shooting themselves in the foot for their worldwake sales. Not to mention that they would be in standard for the same amount of time anyway.
All in all it makes perfect sense for now to just include the original 5 planeswalkers for the core set. Perhaps in the next core set they might change up the walkers a bit but for now I wouldnt bet on it.
Are people still buying Worldwake though anyways? It seems like it's already a dwindling market for now, giving that it's not a current draft format set. I only ever see people get the occasional Worldwake pack these days.
EDIT: I also don't get the alphabetical argument. Shouldn't Jace Beleren and Jace, tMS be in the same part of the set?
This is absolutely NOT ok. You need 4 copies of the card 'Garruk Relentless' to play 4 copies, not 4 proxies of it and 1 real copy.
Uhm, what? Isn't it reasonable to believe that they are going to replace this with a more stable program? Hypothetically, if they turned MPR over to the brick-and-mortars, they could provide a similar (if not better) program at less of a cost. While they haven't said if anything is going to replace it, I'm sure if they do, it will be a more fiscally responsible program than MPR.
Morphling has been known for a while to be an upcoming promo. When they announced the tightening of the Reserved list (no promos, no anything), they also announcing which cards off the list were being Promo-ized between then and the end of 2010 and where. We got some spoilers that way, of what was going to be in FtV: Relics and Judge promos (Wheel and Morphling)
There will always be net-deckers, but with the format not being sanctioned, it's a lot less prevalent.
Uh, so yea, I'm pretty sure on the schedule, they have pegged out an MED5 and 6 in between the rest of the old sets that they need to release.
What do you expect them to cost it at? I believe they're giving $1100 in prizes, and they have to cover the cost of the product, staff, and site, while being able to have some money for profit.
What you don't take into account is the increased costs since Ice Age. Increased support for full-time advertising, R&D, software designer positions compared to back in the day.
I feel like adding a minimal cost to a sleeve of basic lands is in most cases a non-issue. It will decrease the demand of a product that isn't really needed in most cases anymore, minimizing print costs. For perspective, it costs them as much to print a land station as it does to print 2/3 of a booster box.
Star City is selling the walkers at that pricepoint because that's what the public is paying for them. They started a bunch of Vensers at their site at 15 or 20, they all sold out, so they repriced them at 25 or 30, THEY sold out, so they just keep repricing more preorders at higher and higher pricepoints. It would be silly to keep selling them at 20 when people are willing to pay 40-45 per, eh?
That being said, I know I'll probably get burned by it later, but I don't think Venser is the planeswalker that will be #1 in price from this set. Ms. Tirel does it for me.
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Anyways, I think it's a cute little card, and I think that if there are enough good cards with metalcraft on them that it's possible that those two will get rammed into decks.
But for the most part, you needed all of these cards to field a reasonable deck. Along with Mutavault. Mutavault peaked in the 50s, i do believe. Perhaps more, I know there were a few months that it was crazy high. And the Fae played them all, including other rares that were considerably high.
EDIT: Shoot. I got into the Mythic Good vs Bad debate...all in all I really like this card, and it's an awesome card, will be played a decent amount, though I don't think it will become a staple.
Uh, what? Blowing apart a carefully constructed 3 week preview season for a brand new block? I'm sure they're jacked, to a point where they may try to do something.
Emblems exist in the Command Zone, and they probably came about because they wanted to do other things like Elspeth's ultimate ability but realized that her ability only worked because it was granting indestructibility and not anything else. It does open up space for new effects, and I imagine they have plans for this change, or else they would have just waited to change the rules (or just not change them altogether).
What you described is the same thing that happens for any kind of win condition. Your opponent loses nothing for the first 9 poison counters he gets or the first 19 damage he takes. All three situations create an advantage in the sense that your opponent has to start warping how he plays toward preventing himself from losing, and milling may be a more passive way of dying in most cases, but if you're building a mill deck, it can be much more of a dire situation than you describe.
The packs are competing with each other. If one side is more popular, they will sell out quicker than the other. If one side is a complete blank, the other side will sell out almost immediately, leaving the poor side in the booster box. This would leave store owners with a dilemma of opening another box, letting the poor side pile up.
This situation of having 2 different packs in a box may end up leading to stores having to have two different price points for the sets.
Are people still buying Worldwake though anyways? It seems like it's already a dwindling market for now, giving that it's not a current draft format set. I only ever see people get the occasional Worldwake pack these days.
EDIT: I also don't get the alphabetical argument. Shouldn't Jace Beleren and Jace, tMS be in the same part of the set?