MTG Salvation

Can someone point me to an EDH-centric discussion about this? If it doesn't exist (but I'm sure it does) allow me to begin...

It seems to me like Avacyn vs. Avacyn = a really boring game that takes forever. I feel like there are quite a few matchups that would create a really "gridlocky" gamestate.

I think maybe what I've been experimenting with is too slow for 1v1, but I've been tinering with the following ideas...

rogue's passage ?

I feel like I'd rather have edric, spymaster of trest than Cold-eyed Selkie, but maybe you're hoping to pump selkie?

I also kinda like the idea of maybe doing more counters than pumps to support Vorel of the Hull Clade, but that might be way too slow... idk.

I also think about
Thrummingbird - I think I just have a soft spot for that card.
I've had good luck casting Carrion Call at their EOT.

• Centaur Garden
  
• Llanowar Reborn
  
• Oran-Rief, The Vastwood
  

Are all these ideas just way too slow? Is that why much of it isn't in your build?

Is Cytospawn Shambler worth considering?

and for that matter...

Plaxcaster Frogling or Novijen Sages ?

Also considering:

• Cinanul Flute
  
• Power Matrix

One of these (not sure which is the best choice):
Skeleton Ship / Trigon of Corruption /Harbinger of Night / Gnarled Effigy / Fevered Convulsions

how does this look? Am I missing anything obvious or including anything that is not so great?


Commander: The Mimeoplasm

for Jenara and spawnsire.

The best I can think of is...
Deserted Temple + Rings of Brighthearth + Mana Reflection + any land that produces 2 mana.

also
Maze of Ith + Argothian Elder
Palinchron + Mana Reflection


Is this about it, outside of using mycosynth?


current list:

Jenara, Asura of War

Artifacts:

• 1 Ashnod's Altar
  
• 1 Basalt Monolith
  
• 1 Crucible of Worlds
  
• 1 Expedition Map
  
• 1 Gilded Lotus
  
• 1 Lightning Greaves
  
• 1 Mask of Avacyn
  
• 1 Swiftfoot Boots
  
• 1 Darksteel Plate
  
• 1 Whispersilk Cloak
  
• 1 Sol Ring
  
• 1 Rings of Brighthearth
  
• 1 Sensei's Divining Top
  

Creatures:

• 1 Angelic Arbiter
  
• 1 Blazing Archon
  
• 1 Blightsteel Colossus
  
• 1 Bloom Tender
  
• 1 Consecrated Sphinx
  
• 1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
  
• 1 Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
  
• 1 Knight of the Reliquary
  
• 1 Moldgraf Monstrosity
  
• 1 Oracle of Mul Daya
  
• 1 Spawnsire of Ulamog
  
• 1 Sphinx Ambassador
  
• 1 Vigor
  
• 1 Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
  
• 1 Weathered Wayfarer
  
• 1 Woodfall Primus
  
• 1 rafiq of the many
  
• 1 Sylvan Primordial
  
• 1 Argothian Elder
  
• 1 Palinchron

Utility/tutor:

• 1 Dizzy Spell
  
• 1 Drift of Phantasms
  
• 1 Ethereal Usher
  
• 1 Enlightened Tutor
  
• 1 Fabricate
  
• 1 Mystical Tutor

TRANSMUTE

Dizzy Spell =
Expedition map
Sol Ring
Sensei's Divining Top
Weathered Wayfarer
crop rotation
Enlightened tutor
Mystical tutor
Path to Exile
Mystic Speculation

Ethereal Usher =
mana reflection (mainly for)
austere command

Drift of phantasms =
Rings of Brighthearth (mainly for)
whispersilk cloak
Ashnod's altar
Basalt monolith
Crucible of worlds
darksteel plate
knight of the reliquary
awakening zone
overgrowth
krosan grip
rootborn defenses
fabricate

spooky creature tutors:

• 1 Defense of the Heart
  
• 1 Green Sun's Zenith
  
• 1 Tooth and Nail
  

ramp/mana:

• 1 Mana Reflection
  
• 1 Mirari's Wake
  
• 1 Abundance
  
• 1 Awakening Zone
  
• 1 Crop Rotation
  
• 1 Overgrowth
  
• 1 Reap and Sow
  
• 1 Sylvan Scrying
  
• 1 Garruk Wildspeaker

Removal

• 1 Austere Command
  
• 1 Krosan Grip
  
• 1 Path to Exile
  
• 1 Return to Dust
  
• 1 Wrath of God
  

tricks/protection

• 1 Rootborn Defenses
  
• 1 Praetor's Counsel
  
• 1 Triumph of the Hordes
  
• 1 Not of This World
  
• 1 Mystic Speculation
  
• 1 Alexi's Cloak
  
• 1 asceticism
  

Lands:

• 1 Azorius Chancery
  
• 1 Command Tower
  
• 1 Coral Atoll
  
• 1 Deserted Temple
  
• 1 Evolving Wilds
  
• 1 Flooded Strand
  
• 6 Forest
  
• 1 Homeward Path
  
• 4 Island
  
• 1 Jungle Basin
  
• 1 Karoo
  
• 1 Kjeldoran Outpost
  
• 1 Misty Rainforest
  
• 1 Mosswort Bridge
  
• 1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
  
• 5 Plains
  
• 1 Selesnya Sanctuary
  
• 1 Simic Growth Chamber
  
• 1 Strip Mine
  
• 1 Temple of the False God
  
• 1 Terramorphic Expanse
  
• 1 Windswept Heath
  
• 1 Maze of Ith
  
• 1 New Benalia
  
• 1 Academy Ruins
  

Sideboard

• 1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
  
• 2 Pathrazer of Ulamog
  
• 1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
  
• 1 All Is Dust
  
• 3 Artisan of Kozilek
  
• 1 Eldrazi Conscription
  
• 1 It That Betrays
  

why no reliquary tower?

Grinning Totem is the only one that comes to mind.

Vedalken Orrey would add some nice spice.

• copy artifact
  
• copy enchantment
  
• Hurkyl's Recall
  
• Crystal shard
  
• Gilded Drake
  
• Corrupted Conscience
  
• Venser, Shaper Servant
  
• Take Possession
  
• Treachery
  
• Desertion
  
• Hinder
  
• Spell Crumble
  
• Spin Into Myth
  
• Bribery
  
• Acquire
  
• Blatant Thievery
  
• Rite of Replication
  

I really like doing Gilded Drake + Crystal Shard is funtimes.

not exactly the theme, but if you're looking for cards to fill slots, theft compliments the theme pretty well. it's like post casting spelljacking.

Is the a viable EDH idea?

have the starter packs/decks been spoiled yet? where might I see them?

Quote from moxnix

Step 1 kill edric step 2 tuck edric. EveryOne at you table should play cheap clones /removal don't leave him alone 5 turns.

no one leaves him alone for 5 turns. he only really needs to be out for a couple turns. Also his low cost makes recasting easy peasy.

and primetime does something different yes, but does not swing the game as much as edric

I'm earnestly asking here. Primeval titan has NEVER wrecked a game that I have played while Edric, The Infinite Turn Elfball (as a general) causes everyone to concede by turn 5.

Give me some logical reasons why he is not banned as a general.

Quote from brianv3ntura

i love thespian stage. hello cheap cavern of souls.

I don't think this works as it is not entering the battlefield.

I've been waiting for a "get my stuff back" card with other options on it. Now that I have it I feel sad and empty inside. I'm going to weep as I put it in my Mayael EDH deck.

Olivia EDH funtimes.

• Tawnos's Coffin
  
• Gate to Phyrexia
  
• Sage of Lat-Nam
  
• Hurkyl's Recall
  
• Transmute Artifact
  
• Shatterstorm
  
• Damping Field
  
• Guiltfeeder