I don't see why Terrible and Unplayable have to be mutually inclusive. He's obviously playable - in a very specific deck built around not caring what card you drop each turn. But y'know, I still consider him to be terrible.
this not only bears repeating, it should be bronzed and put in big bold letters on top the sight LOL.
I mean seriously 2 mana, with deck advantage, to call him unplayable?
Terrible yes, unplayable? who you kidding? he might even be a 30 dollar card.
Wow, first Helvault and now even Avacyn is rubbish.
They probably didn't want to give Solar Flare and Reanimator decks any real ammunition. This card isn't even close to being as good as Iona. There's probably more ways to remove a creature of that size from the game as opposed to destroying.
Vapor Snag, O-Ring, Geth's Verdict, Tribute to Hunger, Liliana, Dungeon Geists, Traitorous Blood, Metamorph, Phantasmal Image, etc., etc.
She could of at least been 8/8 Shroud and I would have been happy with the new Inkwell Leviathan. But what the hell do you do with this?
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who says rubbish other than the gorsh simon guy?
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not even close to be good?
Jesus, i'd take indestructible over shroud any day of the week,
Seeing as Grislebrand is THE demon on the plane and hes the one that trapped avacyn in the helvault before he himself was exiled away, im just going to go out on a hunch here and say that hes just about equal power to avacyn. An 8/8 demon for 5BBB is most likely what he'll be at, maybe a little less stronger but cant wait either way to see this behemoth of a demon
they had him already,
he was the demon sealed away in the sword for the last set no?
this not only bears repeating, it should be bronzed and put in big bold letters on top the sight LOL.
I mean seriously 2 mana, with deck advantage, to call him unplayable?
Terrible yes, unplayable? who you kidding? he might even be a 30 dollar card.
if a mod should close this please be so kind as to link me,
when it swings it can attach aura's to it yes? (It's why i read at magics main web sight, they don't become an aura till they hit play).
Now Oblivion ring isn't an aura until it hits play,, can you swing, and suppose your opponent has 3-4 oblivion rings out,
they would attach and do nothing?
Its just one of those things that would drive me nuts.
Moved to Rulings
I think honest to God posters sit around and find a way to say meh about every card.
It's one mana. I half expected it to do you the 4 damage lol. Even if it ends up being terrible (LOL As if) it'll see play.
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who says rubbish other than the gorsh simon guy?
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not even close to be good?
Jesus, i'd take indestructible over shroud any day of the week,
you can still equip ow.
they had him already,
he was the demon sealed away in the sword for the last set no?
And it does ^^> damn.
I feel the same. I mean it's kinda neat. Kinda.
...they could key worded LOL.
there's a wolf that keeps them from changing back i would imagine he'd be an easier fit.
for 8 mana it should give you a spirit token for each card shuffled in on top of the life gain.
it looks like a dud to me LOL. I agree. I could been 6 mana and still been a dud.
that's very interesting.
I didn't pick up on it. I feel a ping of pride not to ^^.