Please, God, wedges and more commanders for them. I have nothing against mono-colored, but the wedges are dying for some more variety in commanders and there are very, very few opportunities to print more in a Standard set. Yes I know everyone is speculating wedges for Khans, but that's so vanishingly unlikely...put another way, is Khans more likely to be wedges or not-multicolored? The answer should be obvious. So given that, I'd prefer C14 to be wedges.
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Also very surprised to see Krenko's name again...bodes well for seeing Krenko as the final red legend, BUT:
- There is a Heliod's Pilgrim in the set without there being a Heliod reprint
- Even if it's Krenko, we can't rule out a reprint of the original (still cool)
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Them printing Soul of Ravnica may be a pretty strong sign that the next block is going to be "multicolored matters". Some say that Khans may be wedges-based, and if so and if three-colored decks will dominate standard, then this may absolutely see constructed play. I mean, 5UU: Draw three cards is a pretty strong ability actually, being on a stick. Wizards always design some amount of cards "ahead of time". The obvious example is Nightveil Specter, which didn't actually fit standard until Theros block with "mana symbols matter" was out. Similar thing may be the case here.
Wouldn't read too much into that, the ability is more likely to just be a flavor callback to Ravnica, which spawned two multicolor blocks. Otherwise if you looked at just Soul of Zendikar, you could conclude that Tarkir block would be about "vanilla creatures matter" or "creature tokens matter".
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The only people concerned about the print run in the Conspiracy thread were the ones spooked by shop owners posting that initial distributions were going to be as tight as Modern Masters. Most of the comments centered on the short supply of CNS forcing owners to choose between running drafts for events, and selling boxes. Given how poorly the set is doing on the secondary market, it is clear there was never a supply problem with CNS release events, just like there wasn't with MMA (which you can still find on plenty of LGS shelves a year later), and just like there won't be with M15.
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Basically the moral of the story is that, despite either real or perceived short-distribution, M15 is an unlimited print run set and singles prices will crater on the secondary market after release. It is happening right now with Conspiracy, so I would think our community'd be smarter than to make the same mistake twice on M15 -- of course, we never learn.
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Cards have been out all of two days, and Dack is already below $30 on TCGplayer.com and presumably headed lower. So yeah, looks like the hype was just the usual JTMS planeswalker pre-order tax.
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They are drafting conspiracy at GP Manchester at the moment.
Cards seem to be printed with original expansion symbols.
Elvish Aberation, Icarian javalaneer and other odd cards.
So, have any more cards leaked out of GP Manchester? Possibly a person tweeting them out? I don't give two poops about the manufactured WOTC spoiler controversy that's derailed this thread more than once already.
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Reminder to the people complaining about the draft-related rares.
I'm not sure if some conspiracy cards fall into that slot though or if they go exclusively into the basic land slot.
Both the draft-matters artifacts and the conspiracies would fall into the basic land slot, so even though they might have a rarity amongst each other, it'll only affect that slot in the pack and not where the usual 15 cards would be.
Ultimately, we arrived at having one draft-influencing card per pack. These cards replaced the basic land slot.
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You'll find that some of the draft-ability cards go into your decks, but others don't have mana costs and start in the command zone. These are the conspiracies.
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I think Igor Kieryluk posted in the leak thread that he expected his art to be in the set unless WotC ended up going another direction with it, which led him to think the leak was fake.
Looks like Rout is reprinted in Conspiracy with his art. I think this lends credit to the leak.
That art is lovely. Maybe it was unused from NPH?
Seems like Igor is confirming the (indeed very lovely) art he expected to be in FTV:A instead became the Rout reprint in Conspiracy. So at least on this basis, the leak has merit again.
"So these shiny lands showed up in my mailbox today. Can someone tell me what they are?
Uhm... I hope they didn't send these to me too early. I never get product until it's already available. Usually players tell "me" before I know something is out. Lets hope I didn't accidentally spoil something. @_@
The original painting is almost 40" wide... that's big for me."
Apparently Terese had been commissioned for a quintych of basic land art, and received them back in her mail today from WOTC...as FULL ART FOIL LANDS. Not proofs per her explanation, but actual cards. Some are saying the "Judge" text can be seen at the bottom of the frame, but it's not clear to my eyes. Anyway, this could be huge, since the Guru lands were what happened last time Terese was commissioned for a full set of basics.
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Can someone re-post the redacted card listing all the set mechanics as redacted words? We already have Parley, Dethrone, and Will of the Council.
I don't see space for any more than the three we now know (image taken from this thread); also, it seems the wizards.com/conspiracy address still doesn't work:
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Since I've recently seen some of the new cards: Is it allowed to reveal this information if it wasn't spoiled officially or will I get sued by WotC?
I would say contact a Rumor Mill mod first to check with them before posting here? I believe that's a safer way to do it. But yeah we'd be eager to know, so thanks in advance!
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Has that Living Death art really never been seen before? I don't play MTGO or DotP, so I don't know offhand if it was used earlier for either of those, otherwise that's kind of a big deal and yeah, the leak thread would need to be unlocked. At the time I and many others objected to how quickly the leak was dismissed, so
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I'm torn between feeling bad for and laughing my ass off at anyone who paid even msrp for this pile of chaff. WOW, how does wotc go from great ideas like judge fow and dack to filler like this and most of theros block? It boggles the mind.
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- There is a Heliod's Pilgrim in the set without there being a Heliod reprint
- Even if it's Krenko, we can't rule out a reprint of the original (still cool)
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Lel, sad but true
Wouldn't read too much into that, the ability is more likely to just be a flavor callback to Ravnica, which spawned two multicolor blocks. Otherwise if you looked at just Soul of Zendikar, you could conclude that Tarkir block would be about "vanilla creatures matter" or "creature tokens matter".
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Click here to read a bunch of FUD being peddled
Basically the moral of the story is that, despite either real or perceived short-distribution, M15 is an unlimited print run set and singles prices will crater on the secondary market after release. It is happening right now with Conspiracy, so I would think our community'd be smarter than to make the same mistake twice on M15 -- of course, we never learn.
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Cards have been out all of two days, and Dack is already below $30 on TCGplayer.com and presumably headed lower. So yeah, looks like the hype was just the usual JTMS planeswalker pre-order tax.
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So, have any more cards leaked out of GP Manchester? Possibly a person tweeting them out? I don't give two poops about the manufactured WOTC spoiler controversy that's derailed this thread more than once already.
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Both the draft-matters artifacts and the conspiracies would fall into the basic land slot, so even though they might have a rarity amongst each other, it'll only affect that slot in the pack and not where the usual 15 cards would be.
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Seems like Igor is confirming the (indeed very lovely) art he expected to be in FTV:A instead became the Rout reprint in Conspiracy. So at least on this basis, the leak has merit again.
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Apparently Terese had been commissioned for a quintych of basic land art, and received them back in her mail today from WOTC...as FULL ART FOIL LANDS. Not proofs per her explanation, but actual cards. Some are saying the "Judge" text can be seen at the bottom of the frame, but it's not clear to my eyes. Anyway, this could be huge, since the Guru lands were what happened last time Terese was commissioned for a full set of basics.
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I don't see space for any more than the three we now know (image taken from this thread); also, it seems the wizards.com/conspiracy address still doesn't work:
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I would say contact a Rumor Mill mod first to check with them before posting here? I believe that's a safer way to do it. But yeah we'd be eager to know, so thanks in advance!
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