thank you, for now i've change the day of judgment for cyclonic rift, it,s true that in some way its better. for the spear i'm goint to try it but it can be a good threat for some deck in my meta
i need some help with my bant deck, i'm not sure if the blue cards are worth it and if it would be better to remove them and change the deck for a g/w midrange. Any help would be appreciate
Here's my oloro deck. I'm on a semi-budget, it's why i don,t have a great mana base. i tried to replace all the bad cards that were on the basic deck but with the lack of a budget some are left on it that make the deck good but not perfect.
Update
the budget is now greater and i want to invest more in the deck, still some cards reflect budget.
what i want to change with this deck:
first i want to add more control, in the way of counter spell, creature control and mass board wipes.
second, i want to update my mana base with better lands. I hate comes into play tap lands.
third, I want to remove every cards that they're in the deck simply because they're lifelink. In most of the time they do nothing except to gain life. I want more synergy. But i will not build infinite combo, because i hate those.
yes i was answering to both of you. i saw your deck tich and i know some of the card you say are really good but right i don't want to buy those one like eternal witness, primerval titan, defense of the earth. but in the near future it would be defenitivly in my deck.
I put together this a couple of days ago(i,m long time magic player but right now i don,t want to invest a lot of money in magic, i prefer paintball) i think it's good but i want your input. we play causal multiplayer but some of us have some cuthroat deck(like my elf deck).
bant charm is the best by far, because it can tucked the opponent's general, it can counter a instant spell that target you or your general and destroy an atefact after that it's crosis charm because it can bounce, terminate and destroy artefact. and the rest can be sorted by power depending of the deck that is using it.
this is my first list of animar, soul elemental. it's not optimal but it's pretty good. if you got any suggstion, felll free to tell it. i need any suggestion to put more little dude because it's great to cast big creature for less mana, but i need more little dude to pump my general.
i think riku is pretty good but i think he's a goodstuff of alimar because he has no evasion and he need a lot of mana to operate. so if you can cast creature for less mana and activate riku ability it coulb be great.
great decription of the new general. i think kharador is the second best because recursion is really goot and he have access to three great color. i would expect more from the RUW general.
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
3 qasali pridemage
3 coiling oracle
3 yavimaya elder
2 eternal witness
2 seraph of the sword
3 mulldrifter
2 sigarda, host of herons
1 prime speaker zegana
1 sunblast angel
2 sun titan
2 simic sky swallower
2 luminarch ascension
2 behemoth sledge
1 spear of heliod
1 bow of nylea
2 day of judgment
3 evolving wilds
2 sunpetal grove
2 glacial fortress
2 hinterland harbor
2 gavony township
1 grove of the guardian
4 plains
5 forest
3 island
the cards i would like to add was 2 armada wurm, 2-3 elderwood scion and 2 shield of the oversoul
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=11458513#post11458513
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
Update
the budget is now greater and i want to invest more in the deck, still some cards reflect budget.
what i want to change with this deck:
first i want to add more control, in the way of counter spell, creature control and mass board wipes.
second, i want to update my mana base with better lands. I hate comes into play tap lands.
third, I want to remove every cards that they're in the deck simply because they're lifelink. In most of the time they do nothing except to gain life. I want more synergy. But i will not build infinite combo, because i hate those.
thanks for any input on the deck
Creature
1 mother of runes
1 serra ascendant
1 Weathered Wayfarer
2 baleful strix
2 Vizkopa guildmage
3 Aven Mindcensor
3 Burnished Hart
3 Brimaz, King of oreskos
3 shadowmage infiltrator
3 Hushwing Gryff
4 clever impersonator
4 Lu Xun, Scholar general
4 Rhox Faithmender
4 grand arbiter augustin IV
4 Solemn Simulacrum
5 Archangel of thune
5 Blood Baron of Vizkopa
5 Bloodgift Demon
5 Divinity of pride
5 Mulldrifter
5 Sunscorch regent
6 Isperia, Supreme Judge
6 wurmcoil engine
6 consecrated sphinx
7 Drogskol Reaver
8 Sphinx of the steel wind
Planeswalker
4 Jace, Architect of thought
6 Elspeth, Sun's champion
Instant
1 condemn
1 swords to plowshares
1 path to exile
2 Cyclonic Rift
2 Lim-Dûl's Vault
3 Mortify
3 fabricate
3 Survival Cache
3 Toxic Deluge
4 Austere Command
4 Supreme verdict
6 Merciless Eviction
Artifact
1 Sol ring
2 azorius signet
2 dimir signet
2 orzhov signet
2 swiftfoot boots
2 Talisman of dominance
2 Talisman of Progress
3 Chromatic lantern
3 coalition relic
3 darksteel ingot
3 Pristine Talisman
4 Well of lost dreams
5 Gilded Lotus
Enchantement
1 Phyrexian reclamation
2 Blind Obedience
3 Banishing Light
3 Detention Sphere
3 Ghostly Prison
3 oblivion ring
3 Phyrexian Arena
3 rhystic study
5 Sanguine Bond
Land
3 Island
4 Swamp
5 plains
1 drowned catacomb
1 glacial fortress
1 isolated chapel
1 Azorius Chancery
1 dimir aqueduct
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 Jwar isle refuge
1 Sejiri refuge
1 adarkar wastes
1 caves of koilos
1 underground river
1 temple of deceit
1 temple of enlightenment
1 Temple of silence
1 tranquil cove
1 scoured barrens
1 dismal backwater
1 Command tower
1 Opal Palace
1 Reliquary tower
1 Temple of the false god
1 Arcane sanctum
1 Evolving Wilds
1 terramorphic expanse
1 vault of the archangel
here's the card i want to cut
2 stormscape familiar
7 Drogskol Reaver
sorcery
4 diabolic tutor
6 Merciless Eviction
1 Azorius Chancery
1 dimir aqueduct
1 Orzhov Basilica
1 tranquil cove
1 scoured barrens
1 dismal backwater
1 Jwar isle refuge
1 Sejiri refuge
here's the card i want to add to the deck
1 glen elendra archmage
1 venser, shaper savant
instant
1 enlightened tutor
1 mystical tutor
1 oblation
1 return to dust
1 damnation
1 demonic tutor
1 vindicate
1 wrath of god
artifact
1 sensei's divining top
planeswalker
1 jace beleren
1 tamiyo, the moon sage
1 godless shrine
1 hallowed fountain
1 watery grave
1 fetid heath
1 mystic gate
1 sunken ruins
update 2015-03-28
+
1 clever impersonator
1 Grand abolisher
1 Hushwing Gryff
1 Lu Xun, Scholar general
-
1 Ranger Of Eos
1 Soul's Attendant
1 Soul Warden
1 Ajani's Pridemate
+
1 Austere Command
1 Supreme verdict
-
1 day of judgement
Instant
+
1 Spell crumple
artefact
+
1 swiftfoot boots
-
1 Venser's journal
Enchatement
-
1 Paradox Haze
1 Exquisite Blood
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
4 skinshifter
3 garruk's companion
2 fierce empath
3 eternal witness
2 forgotten ancient
2 fangren firstborn
2 acidic slime
1 kodama of the north tree
1 oversoul of dusk
3 primalcrux
2 khalni hydra
2 hydra omnivore
2 caller of the claw
3 cultivate
3 cream of the crop
2 oran-rief, the vastwood
3 treetop village
20 forest
if you have some idea for a cool deck to play in multiplayer, show it to me.
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
+ hydra omnivore
+ edric, spymaster of trest
+ Command Tower
- Rhystic Study
- Yavimaya Elder
- Regrowth
- stirring wildwood
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
1 Birds of paradise Foil
1 coiling oracle
2 sakura-tribe elder
2 Wall of Blossoms
3 Edric, spymaster of trest
3 eternal witness
3 Fierce empath
3 man-o'-war
3 trygon predator
3 viridian shaman Foil
4 forgotten ancient
4 glen elendra archmage
4 ondu giant
4 oracle of mul daya
4 thieving magpie
4 Solemn simulacrum
5 Acidic slime
5 Gensis
5 Mulldrifter [foil promo]
5 seedborn muse
5 teferi, mage of zhafir [foil FTV]
6 Arcanis the omnipotent
6 Consecrated sphinx
6 Deadwood treefolk
6 draining whelk
6 Frost titan
6 Hydra omnivore
6 Inferno titan
6 primeval titan
6 primordial sage
6 Sphinx of jwar isle Foil
6 Steel hellkite
6 sun quan, lord of wu [foil FTV]
6 Wurmcoil engine
7 garruk's horde
7 Simic sky swallower
8 Akroma, angel of fury
8 Bogardan hellkite
8 terastodon
8 Tidespout tyrant
8 Vorinclex, voice of hunger
9 Artisan of kozilek
9 Inkwell leviathan
10 Jin-gitaxias, core augur
10 Kozilek, butcher of truth [foil promo]
11 Darksteel colossus
11 Ulamog, the infinite gyre [foil FTV]
12 Blightsteel colossus
12 It that betrays
1 Jace beleren
1 Coalition relic
1 Gruul signet Foil
1 Izzet signet
1 Sensei's divining top
1 Simic signet Foil
1 Sol ring
1 equilibirum
1 Rhystic study
1 hinder
1 spell crumple
1 strenght of the tajuru
1 Cultivate Foil
1 Time spiral
1 ancient ziggurrat
1 Honeward path
1 Reliquary tower
1 Tectonic edge
1 Temple of the false god
1 winding canyon
1 Command tower
1 Reflecting pool
1 Breeding pool
1 Flooded grove
1 Misty rainforest
1 yavimaya coast
1 Cascade bluffs
1 Scalding tarn
1 shivan reef
1 Steam vents
1 Fire-lit thicket
1 karplusan forest
1 rootbound crag
1 Stomping grounds
1 wooded foothills
2 Mountain
8 Forest
6 Island
the cards i need
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat
BUW Oloro, Ageless Ascetic
GUW Roon of the hidden realm
Tiny Leaders
GW Selvala, Explorer Returned
BU Sygg, River Cutthroat