Yeah, I don't think Force/Tinker/Wasteland/Sinkhole would be that spectacular in my cube either, but I may give them a shot just because of their iconic-ness, and take them out of the underperform. Right now I have Skullclamp in my cube and it's really good for sure, but I'm not sure that it's been an absolute problem. Sol Ring definitely seems busted and I will likely keep it out, it's just two one-sided if you draw it early on. The same thing might apply to Ancient Tomb? Although at least you're taking damage in trade, so it might be on the border. Demo Tutor and Recruiter don't seem all that amazing, just added utility - it's not like you're tutoring up Yawgmoth's Will for the win, though if you do have one of those "win con" type cards (Capsize & Sprout Swarm have been as close to wincons as anything in my list I think), Demo Tutor might prove to make decks a little too consistent, then again you have to be in those colors.
What are people's opinions on some of the "power" commons and uncommons from the days of yore, like the ones below? Are some of the fine and some of them just too good? I can see Sol Ring being a big no-no. Skullclamp too? I'm tweaking my ~420 card list and going over to see what I've missed or might want to add at some point.
I was talking about going a step further and Rotisserie-ing the entire Cube (and the rest of my sleeved EDH stuff which is designed to cover almost every card that's even corner-case viable).
I like the idea but I don't think that's something I'd really want to participate in. Would take maybe 6-8 hours to draft decks?
You'd just do it over the course of the week on a shared Google doc. Have done this with my cube before (though not EDH decks, just regular decks). It's not too bad if everyone has internet access throughout the day.
Farmhand doesn't trigger enchantress draws, come back with Replenish, buff up Ancestral Mask, etc. Ramp is easy to find to find. Decent ramp on enchantments is a little rarer.
That's true, Farmhand is close but they both serve quite different strategies.
90% of the good interactions with this guy involve Homeward Path. It's a little awkward to actually execute many of the others, as you can't play your pieces if the Chimera's already out and under someone else's control. I play Zedruu and wouldn't consider this guy, just because I like it when I actually get the cards I play. It's good when you run a lot of global effects or expect your opponents' decks to be better than yours.
I just stuck him into my Zedruu deck to try him out, but I fear that you'll be right. I had Act of Authority in there for a while because it seemed perfect for Zedruu, but it too would have then came back to eat my Sunforger or Solitary Confinement. At least it can just take out one thing and sit on your side unless you see a reason to have it hit something else; the Chimera isn't that lucky. I'll still probably try it out for myself though.
From my limited perusing of the last few pages of this thread, I feel like damagecase has a similar view to mine. In very simplified terms, I expect Wizards to do more of the same that they have been doing. I don't think all the expensive non-land staples are ever all of a sudden going to drop in price ala mass printing of money cards. A few here and there will get released via Standard product or promotional product (which often doesn't sink the value that much), or perhaps another Modern Masters. It's just nearly impossible to keep all the expensive staples "affordable." You reprint one and two more pop up after a powerful card rotates out of Standard, etc. Having no Reserved list helps, but won't ever make Modern a budget-friendly format.
I think the single largest thing that Wizards can and will do is reprint fetchlands in a large set. I don't know if this will be all 10 at a time and I don't expect it to be any time in the immediate future, but I think that's the way they can have the most impact on reducing the entry level into Modern.
I know it's not a core strategy of yours but Worthy Cause is an all star in Child of Alara decks, especially when opponents run a lot of Wasteland/Strip Mine effects to hit your High Market, etc. Anyway, just wanted to suggest it, did a quick search in the thread and didn't see it.
I'm building a mono green deck and I'm wondering how you guys would turn late-ish game dead creature draws into something more useful. Survival of the Fittest comes to mind, but I wonder what other ideas you guys have. I know I could just not play those kind of creatures, but the deck is a little theme-ish so I'm sacrificing some power to play them.
How Hoof and Prophet managed to skirt past that one is beyond me. While Sylvan Primordial can nuke lands, I have never seen it be responsible for killing the table or becoming an extremely oppressive card like Hoof and Prophet do respectively. I'll go along with the change, but I don't agree with it.
I wish I knew more about how that system works, but when any card starts to move every store regardless of time of day will adjust even if they don't sell any copies. Someone please explain to us how this works.
I'm with you. A little off topic here though. I know some stores use Crystal Commerce (http://www.crystalcommerce.com/) and it auto adjusts prices based on multiple sources. Technology fails, I could totally see something like you described happening - it would be nice if a few of the store owners who ran online shops not via eBay could give some more information.
I don't think Serene Master is very good at all. It functions essentially as a worse Ambush Viper and no one plays that card. I think there are way better pillowfort/rattlesnake cards. In a Zedruu deck, I think it'd be better to donate it as a random dork for draw and life 80% of the time.
Yup, used to play it quite a bit. Not a bad card if your often has enough mana and nothing else to do with that mana, but that's usually pretty rare for a blue deck. Better though if you play a lot of instant speed things and can crack it EOT if there wasn't anything better to do.
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You'd just do it over the course of the week on a shared Google doc. Have done this with my cube before (though not EDH decks, just regular decks). It's not too bad if everyone has internet access throughout the day.
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That's true, Farmhand is close but they both serve quite different strategies.
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Diligent Farmhand would like to have a word with you!
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I just stuck him into my Zedruu deck to try him out, but I fear that you'll be right. I had Act of Authority in there for a while because it seemed perfect for Zedruu, but it too would have then came back to eat my Sunforger or Solitary Confinement. At least it can just take out one thing and sit on your side unless you see a reason to have it hit something else; the Chimera isn't that lucky. I'll still probably try it out for myself though.
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I think the single largest thing that Wizards can and will do is reprint fetchlands in a large set. I don't know if this will be all 10 at a time and I don't expect it to be any time in the immediate future, but I think that's the way they can have the most impact on reducing the entry level into Modern.
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What is Hoof?
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(P.S. would be nice if this thread could get recreated so it's not running into the last page issues. Or is the new MTGS going to take care of that?)
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I'm with you. A little off topic here though. I know some stores use Crystal Commerce (http://www.crystalcommerce.com/) and it auto adjusts prices based on multiple sources. Technology fails, I could totally see something like you described happening - it would be nice if a few of the store owners who ran online shops not via eBay could give some more information.
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