MTG Salvation

Sona still isn't worth playing. Everything she can do, Zyra does it in a better fashion.

You want hard cc ? Well, Zyras is an aoe knockup.

You want poke ? Zyra's poke snares people and travels through units. Her plants also poke.

You want heals, shields and speed boosts ? Well, Zyra permaslows people so that won't be necessary.

You also don't get hard-counterd by aoe comps as Zyra. Sona pretty much has to stay really close to someone for her auras to do anything.

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I highly disagree that she gates out ANY ADC, personally. Cait hasn't been touched much, aside from a nerf to her base attack speed, in quite awhile. There's going to be spikes in different ADC's use, sure, just like any role, but I really don't think that Cait is the reason they aren't picked.

Range is a steroid, sure...but if you look at the popular ADC picks right now, they ALL have something to increase their DPS. Cait really doesn't, and it makes her late game worse than most other ADC's, though Corki/Graves and a few others are probably worse.

People pretty much refuse to play Ashe strictly just because of Cait. Ashe can not win the matchup at all. Same with Quinn. Quinn has really short range and nothing to really compromise for it. Cait fulfills the lane bully role but so do Draven, Graves and MF. The difference is Draven, Graves and MF allow the opponent to interact with them. Cait just says "I'll just right click you with my really high range and poke you from a far with my Q. I'm not going to let you near me because I have higher range than you + traps and even if you get near me I can just knock my self back while slowing you. Oh yeah, my base stats are good enough for me to not get bursted down quickly."

Cait played perfectly provides no interaction at all. Since the last year or so Riot's been saying there needs to be more counterplay available so something has to be changed.

Lebron should go the Suns and they should sign Carmelo or Bosh. That would be the best permiter team in the league. The transition game would be amazing. Bledsoe and Lebron are lockdown defenders. Bledsoe and Dragic are the best backcourt duo in the league. Suns won 48 games without a real star player. They have youth and guys on cheap contracts. With Lebron + Bosh or Carmelo they would win over 60 games and be the favorites to win it all. Phoenix has the cap room to do it too. It's way better situation than going to the Cavs who missed the playoffs in the east or resigning with the Heat who will have no cap space and old players.

I haven't watch that stuff since 2005. They still do that ?

Her base stats are barely worse than MF (40 fewer health, 3 fewer armor) who is immobile yet she has 100 more range than her and innate self peeling. Cait's health pool, armor and armor per level should be pretty low because of her range and has self peeling. Caits mid game is still better than Trists because she has AD ratios on her Q and R and she can siege towers better than other adcs during mid game.
But that's just it though, you will never catch her unless your jungler camps bot..against decent Caits anyway. There should be a limit on how safe a champion should be.

Wow. I just realized how bad GD is on Riots forum. In the Lucian nerf thread the op said Caits range should also be nerfed. Sometime later I pop into the thread and say "Cait is actually more safe than Lucian and more than any other adcs in general so should get nerfed because she had decent base stats, highest innate range in the game, a self knockback slow and snare that grants vision. There's a fine line between safe and being interactive. Cait is the later. Riot hates interactive champions so she should be nerfed." I get nothing but downvotes with no counter argument.

Is there a reason why there is no hybrid penetration item ? Would that make Akali, Jax and Kayle super op ?

No they don't.

Leona is worthless if her team falls behind.
Zyra's snare travels through units and can hit multiple targets. Morg's can't do that.
Zyra has good poke skills. Annie, Morg and Leona can't do anything against poke lane.
Zyra's aoe cc is a knock up which is the best cc in the game because it can't be reduced by tenacity.
Zyra's plants give her arguably the best brush control in the lane phase. Zyras plants are also extra wards.
Zyra counters all three of them.

Why did people stop playing Zyra ? She still wrecks just about every support. MS Quints + 0/9/21 masteries is amazing on her. I go Sightstone>Frost Queens Claim>Liandry's>Rylais>Twin Shadows. It's incredibly easy to kite with this.

I'm hardly playing against Feral Flare junglers. Only 1 in 5 games since the price and requirements increased.

This new patch is so amazing. 5-0. Galio, Jinx, MF, Trynd, Zyra. I had a favorable match up in every single one of those game.

Galio vs Kat
Jinx + Soraka vs Cait + Blitz
MF + Blitz vs Ashe + Nami
Trynd vs Zed
Zyra + Ezreal vs Pantheon + Heimer kill lane

I hate this current patch so much. 6-30 with 4.5 patch. I can't win any game mode. Is this what people call elo hell ???

Wow. After my last match, I know why people say Vayne players have the worst attitude in the game. I haven't seen anything like this since I was maybe level 15. Hopefully, the rest of my team reported her.

OMG. An actual good UB card. It feels like it's been forever since we had one of those.

Feral flare needs massive nerfs. I was Trynd. I had BotR, Berserkers, SS, LW, IE and Chain Vest. The Xin on my team had Feral Flare, Triforce, BotR,, Merc treads, Sunfire Cape and Spirit Visage. Xin ended up doing 4 thousand more damage than me. That's so stupid...