I played that list with 4 Doomed Traveler and no Orings. It didn't do well against other WW and RUG Tron beat me down. Vulshok Morningstar is now replaced by a Plains and 3 Oring.
That is something I would have suggested. Vulshok Morningstar costs way too much for Pauper and Oblivion Ring is way too valuable.
Yes indeed! I have been so busy lately but now that I have moved to Reno I am running the field with my Pauper decks here. A few of the LGS out here have Pauper tournaments but I blew them out with my White Weenie so friggin hard haha.
I am looking forward to being more active once again. Still White Weenie is my go to deck for everything
Oddly enough though my equipment deck in my signature, is friggin smashing a lot harder here then in my old LGS.
What do the Stompy players think about Hooting Mandrills? It seems like a sure bet for turn 3-4 as a 1 mana drop to me; the amount of none-recursive pumps will make him cheap quickly, and 4/4 with trample is pretty big for pauper (out of bolt range for sure.) He seems like a good way to extend the power of Stompy if it does not win right off of the bat.
It is certainly an interesting card. I do like it and it may be viable, my only reservation with it is after turn 3 or even 4 you would have to cast him for the entire mana cost and if you have a second one in your hand he is basically useless for another few turns.
Granted that may not be the worst thing but I know in my own stompy everything has a purpose at every single moment so I have zero dead cards at any given time. Like I said, my opinion is split; he could be good or he could be dead cards for a few turns. Can you afford to remove something worthwhile at any given time for a late game beater? I don't know.
I mis-posted this elsewhere so hopefully this is the right location to get a little help.
I am in the market for a new computer and I am used to the standard gaming rig (Giant PC). I am now at a point in my life where I need portability. I want a computer that is better then what I currently have which I will post at the very end.
So with that being said I will start off with a few things that I have heard and then a what is better portion.
1: For SC2 and Diablo3 I have been told and seen from several places and people that Intel is superior to AMD because these two games are more CPU dependent. True? False?
2: If going with Intel I have heard that the I5 4210U is better then the I7 4510U because these games do not use multi-threading. True? False?
3: Do I really need a 4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M or will I be fine with a 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M?
4: I assume that 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm) is enough?
The two systems I am looking at are below.
HP Envy 15t Select, total cost: $736.39
Operating system Windows 8.1 64
Processor and Graphics 4th generation Intel® Core™ i5-4210U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics
Display 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
Memory 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm)
Hard drive 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Primary battery 4-cell 41WHr Lithium-ion Battery
Primary optical drive SuperMulti DVD burner
Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Personalization HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual Digital Microphone, Fingerprint Reader
Networking 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth® [1x1]
HP Envy 15t, total cost: $761.99 With the 4GB Video Card it is $829.19
Operating system Windows 8.1 64
Processor and Graphics 4th generation Intel® Core™ i7-4510U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics
Display 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
Memory 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm)
Hard drive 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Office software No Additional Office Software
McAfee LiveSafe(TM) Security Security Software Trial
Primary battery 4-cell 41WHr Lithium-ion Battery
Primary optical drive SuperMulti DVD burner
Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Personalization HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual Digital Microphone, Fingerprint Reader
Networking 802.11b/g/n WLAN [1x1]
I appreciate any thoughts you guys have. I really don't want to spend more money then I have to. For reference I can play the game on high/ultra right now with this setup on my PC. Which laptop beats what I currently have?
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3.1 GB RAM
Windows Vista
Crossfired ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series with 1.7GB Video Ram
I tried posting this in the Battlenet forums but I haven't gotten a response so I figured I would try here to.
I am in the market for a new computer and I am used to the standard gaming rig (Giant PC). I am now at a point in my life where I need portability.
So with that being said I will start off with a few things that I have heard and then a what is better portion.
1: For SC2 and Diablo3 I have been told and seen from several places and people that Intel is superior to AMD because these two games are more CPU dependent. True? False?
2: If going with Intel I have heard that the I5 4210U is better then the I7 4510U because these games do not use multi-threading. True? False?
3: Do I really need a 4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M or will I be fine with a 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M?
4: I assume that 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm) is enough?
The two systems I am looking at are below.
HP Envy 15t Select, total cost: $736.39
Operating system Windows 8.1 64
Processor and Graphics 4th generation Intel® Core™ i5-4210U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics
Display 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
Memory 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm)
Hard drive 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Primary battery 4-cell 41WHr Lithium-ion Battery
Primary optical drive SuperMulti DVD burner
Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Personalization HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual Digital Microphone, Fingerprint Reader
Networking 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth® [1x1]
HP Envy 15t, total cost: $761.99 With the 4GB Video Card it is $829.19
Operating system Windows 8.1 64
Processor and Graphics 4th generation Intel® Core™ i7-4510U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics
Display 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
Memory 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm)
Hard drive 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Office software No Additional Office Software
McAfee LiveSafe(TM) Security Security Software Trial
Primary battery 4-cell 41WHr Lithium-ion Battery
Primary optical drive SuperMulti DVD burner
Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Personalization HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual Digital Microphone, Fingerprint Reader
Networking 802.11b/g/n WLAN [1x1]
I appreciate any thoughts you guys have. I really don't want to spend more money then I have to. For reference I can play the game on high/ultra right now with this setup on my PC. Which laptop beats what I currently have?
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3.1 GB RAM
Windows Vista
Crossfired ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series with 1.7GB Video Ram
I like the Primer, straight and to the point. As a whole this is everything that is required to get people started playing the Archtype.
As for your match up section you can most likely take my Total Package White Weenie match up against my own Delver deck for that section if you wish. I don't have an in depth breakdown but my own Delver went 1 and 2 against my White Weenie due to the versatility.
16 swamp
4 dark ritual
4 funeral charm
4 duress
4 hymn to tourach
4 sinkhole
4 carnophage
4 vampire lacerator
4 dauthi horror
4 dauthi slayer
4 erg raiders
4 unholy strength
Side
3 tormod's crypt
4 darkness
4 cuombajj witches
4 snuff out
It's an old style sui black because in paper i can play the old powerfull sinkhole and hymn, it's lethal against any control decks!
Fast aggro like goblins are a serious problem!
any thoughts?
This deck is very flexible, and I enjoy how different I can play it depending on the matchup.
The under-performer of this deck is Suture Priest. I want to get it out early, but I always feel like I have more important cards to play. I'm considering taking it out completely and putting it in the sideboard for creature-heavy decks. Maybe I'm just under-utilizing it.
The more I use Standard Bearer, the more I learn to appreciate it. What a useful card! I am glad I have it, but is 4x too many?
2x GoG seems to be the right number.
I haven't decided how many Benevolent Bodyguards I want, yet. Any thoughts?
4x Razor Golem is okay, but I might be better off with only 3x?
Playing Kor Sanctifiers with the kicker cost is very expensive, and they usually end up sitting in my hand doing nothing. Do people like mainboarding these, or should they be designated to the sideboard?
Below is the deck that I take to tournaments and have consistent wins with. I think Suture Priest is an excellent card at a 3x both early or mid game because it makes your opponent think about if the creature they are playing is worth the beat to the face, and especially if you have 2+ out. It also becomes a target for removal so it also saves creatures such as Standard Bearer and Guardian of the Guildpact.
Ever since I through Standard Bearer into the deck and starting raising hell with it people have taken notice and started to use the card more often, and if you pair it with Inviolability the game is over in most cases.
I run 4x Benevolent Bodyguards simply because I value everything in the deck and I use him to either protect my creatures so they can attack through enemy mono colors or I use him to make the opponent waste removal on maybe a Suture Priest and just protect it away.
As you can see, my Kor Sanctifiers are in my sideboard, they are not mainboard cards.
I would never consider dropping Guardian of the Guildpact. To me personally I really don't care for the deck list you posted because it completely removed any hint of what I feel makes White Weenie a staple and a high quality top-tier deck, and that is the removal is its versatility.
With the deck list that I run for instance I can handle nearly every single threat thrown at me, I may not win all the time but I have a fighting chance. With that being said I have beaten every single type of deck more than once with what I run because of the control, aggression, and over versatile mechanics that are employed when using White Weenie.
White Weenie and the Soldier archtypes are my absolute lifes blood in Magic so in my experience and opinion I wouldn't change a thing unless something dramatic happens like an updated Standard Bearer that has zero downsides to it.
You do have to remember though, this is for paper play and it is different then online play, and of course meta's will be different from place to place.
I was looking through the Lorwyn set list the other day and came across Surge of Thoughtweft. This is a very good cantrip for any deck that uses a fair amount of Kithkin creatures. This is especially great with the full Kithkin build. With the Banneret in play it only cost one mana! This is strictly better than Glorious Charge in most decks.
I agree, when I have a free minute I will update the guide and the deck. Good catch!
Great to see you back! I noticed you were gone after the switch and figured that's why you disappeared. I'm actually back from a hiatus myself since I haven't had internet for a month.
Let's see if we can't get some action generated in our little corner of the site!
Yea we put some work into generating interest so let's see what we can do.
That is something I would have suggested. Vulshok Morningstar costs way too much for Pauper and Oblivion Ring is way too valuable.
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Did you need help with this deck? Ideas, thoughts? Or just posting to show?
W White Weenie
Yes indeed! I have been so busy lately but now that I have moved to Reno I am running the field with my Pauper decks here. A few of the LGS out here have Pauper tournaments but I blew them out with my White Weenie so friggin hard haha.
I am looking forward to being more active once again. Still White Weenie is my go to deck for everything
Oddly enough though my equipment deck in my signature, is friggin smashing a lot harder here then in my old LGS.
W White Weenie
W White Weenie
W White Weenie
It is certainly an interesting card. I do like it and it may be viable, my only reservation with it is after turn 3 or even 4 you would have to cast him for the entire mana cost and if you have a second one in your hand he is basically useless for another few turns.
Granted that may not be the worst thing but I know in my own stompy everything has a purpose at every single moment so I have zero dead cards at any given time. Like I said, my opinion is split; he could be good or he could be dead cards for a few turns. Can you afford to remove something worthwhile at any given time for a late game beater? I don't know.
W White Weenie
I mis-posted this elsewhere so hopefully this is the right location to get a little help.
I am in the market for a new computer and I am used to the standard gaming rig (Giant PC). I am now at a point in my life where I need portability. I want a computer that is better then what I currently have which I will post at the very end.
So with that being said I will start off with a few things that I have heard and then a what is better portion.
1: For SC2 and Diablo3 I have been told and seen from several places and people that Intel is superior to AMD because these two games are more CPU dependent. True? False?
2: If going with Intel I have heard that the I5 4210U is better then the I7 4510U because these games do not use multi-threading. True? False?
3: Do I really need a 4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M or will I be fine with a 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M?
4: I assume that 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm) is enough?
The two systems I am looking at are below.
HP Envy 15t Select, total cost: $736.39
Operating system Windows 8.1 64
Processor and Graphics 4th generation Intel® Core™ i5-4210U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics
Display 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
Memory 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm)
Hard drive 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Primary battery 4-cell 41WHr Lithium-ion Battery
Primary optical drive SuperMulti DVD burner
Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Personalization HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual Digital Microphone, Fingerprint Reader
Networking 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth® [1x1]
HP Envy 15t, total cost: $761.99 With the 4GB Video Card it is $829.19
Operating system Windows 8.1 64
Processor and Graphics 4th generation Intel® Core™ i7-4510U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics
Display 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
Memory 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm)
Hard drive 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Office software No Additional Office Software
McAfee LiveSafe(TM) Security Security Software Trial
Primary battery 4-cell 41WHr Lithium-ion Battery
Primary optical drive SuperMulti DVD burner
Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Personalization HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual Digital Microphone, Fingerprint Reader
Networking 802.11b/g/n WLAN [1x1]
I appreciate any thoughts you guys have. I really don't want to spend more money then I have to. For reference I can play the game on high/ultra right now with this setup on my PC. Which laptop beats what I currently have?
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3.1 GB RAM
Windows Vista
Crossfired ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series with 1.7GB Video Ram
W White Weenie
I am in the market for a new computer and I am used to the standard gaming rig (Giant PC). I am now at a point in my life where I need portability.
So with that being said I will start off with a few things that I have heard and then a what is better portion.
1: For SC2 and Diablo3 I have been told and seen from several places and people that Intel is superior to AMD because these two games are more CPU dependent. True? False?
2: If going with Intel I have heard that the I5 4210U is better then the I7 4510U because these games do not use multi-threading. True? False?
3: Do I really need a 4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 850M or will I be fine with a 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M?
4: I assume that 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm) is enough?
The two systems I am looking at are below.
HP Envy 15t Select, total cost: $736.39
Operating system Windows 8.1 64
Processor and Graphics 4th generation Intel® Core™ i5-4210U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics
Display 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
Memory 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm)
Hard drive 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Primary battery 4-cell 41WHr Lithium-ion Battery
Primary optical drive SuperMulti DVD burner
Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Personalization HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual Digital Microphone, Fingerprint Reader
Networking 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth® [1x1]
HP Envy 15t, total cost: $761.99 With the 4GB Video Card it is $829.19
Operating system Windows 8.1 64
Processor and Graphics 4th generation Intel® Core™ i7-4510U Dual Core Processor + 2GB NVIDIA GeForce 840M Graphics
Display 15.6-inch diagonal Full HD WLED-backlit Display (1920x1080)
Memory 8GB DDR3L System Memory (1 Dimm)
Hard drive 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
Office software No Additional Office Software
McAfee LiveSafe(TM) Security Security Software Trial
Primary battery 4-cell 41WHr Lithium-ion Battery
Primary optical drive SuperMulti DVD burner
Keyboard Backlit Keyboard
Personalization HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Dual Digital Microphone, Fingerprint Reader
Networking 802.11b/g/n WLAN [1x1]
I appreciate any thoughts you guys have. I really don't want to spend more money then I have to. For reference I can play the game on high/ultra right now with this setup on my PC. Which laptop beats what I currently have?
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
3.1 GB RAM
Windows Vista
Crossfired ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series with 1.7GB Video Ram
W White Weenie
The only cards more expensive then 10 cents at my LGS were these,
Unmake = $1.00 per
Oblivion Ring = .50 cents per
So even to go highly competitive and versatile the cost is extremely minimal.
4 Benevolent Bodyguard
3 Guardian of the Guildpact
4 Icatian Javelineers
4 Kor Skyfisher
4 Razor Golem
4 Squadron Hawk
4 Standard Bearer
3 Suture Priest
3 Bonesplitter
3 Journey to Nowhere
2 Prismatic Strands
2 Unmake
Lands 20
17 Plains
3 Secluded Steppe
2 Dust to Dust
4 Inviolability
4 Kor Sanctifiers
2 Oblivion Ring
3 Sunlance
W White Weenie
As for your match up section you can most likely take my Total Package White Weenie match up against my own Delver deck for that section if you wish. I don't have an in depth breakdown but my own Delver went 1 and 2 against my White Weenie due to the versatility.
W White Weenie
Fixed to provide links.
4 dark ritual
4 funeral charm
4 duress
4 hymn to tourach
4 sinkhole
4 carnophage
4 vampore lacerator
4 dauthi horror
4 dauthi slayer
4 erg raiders
4 unholy strength
4 darkness
4 cuombajj witches
4 snuff out
W White Weenie
Below is the deck that I take to tournaments and have consistent wins with. I think Suture Priest is an excellent card at a 3x both early or mid game because it makes your opponent think about if the creature they are playing is worth the beat to the face, and especially if you have 2+ out. It also becomes a target for removal so it also saves creatures such as Standard Bearer and Guardian of the Guildpact.
Ever since I through Standard Bearer into the deck and starting raising hell with it people have taken notice and started to use the card more often, and if you pair it with Inviolability the game is over in most cases.
I run 4x Benevolent Bodyguards simply because I value everything in the deck and I use him to either protect my creatures so they can attack through enemy mono colors or I use him to make the opponent waste removal on maybe a Suture Priest and just protect it away.
As you can see, my Kor Sanctifiers are in my sideboard, they are not mainboard cards.
4 Benevolent Bodyguard
3 Guardian of the Guildpact
4 Icatian Javelineers
4 Kor Skyfisher
4 Razor Golem
4 Squadron Hawk
4 Standard Bearer
3 Suture Priest
3 Bonesplitter
3 Journey to Nowhere
2 Prismatic Strands
2 Unmake
Lands 20
17 Plains
3 Secluded Steppe
2 Dust to Dust
4 Inviolability
4 Kor Sanctifiers
2 Oblivion Ring
3 Sunlance
W White Weenie
I would never consider dropping Guardian of the Guildpact. To me personally I really don't care for the deck list you posted because it completely removed any hint of what I feel makes White Weenie a staple and a high quality top-tier deck, and that is the removal is its versatility.
With the deck list that I run for instance I can handle nearly every single threat thrown at me, I may not win all the time but I have a fighting chance. With that being said I have beaten every single type of deck more than once with what I run because of the control, aggression, and over versatile mechanics that are employed when using White Weenie.
White Weenie and the Soldier archtypes are my absolute lifes blood in Magic so in my experience and opinion I wouldn't change a thing unless something dramatic happens like an updated Standard Bearer that has zero downsides to it.
You do have to remember though, this is for paper play and it is different then online play, and of course meta's will be different from place to place.
W White Weenie
I agree, when I have a free minute I will update the guide and the deck. Good catch!
W White Weenie
Yea it really was.
Yea we put some work into generating interest so let's see what we can do.
W White Weenie