Damn Wyvern, that's a bummer that you won't mod this thread anymore.
But like i told you, i would gladly update the primer to the new meta, and make it neater to see.
Don't worry - you guys have been keeping the ball rolling just fine without me. I'm not too concerned. And I'm sure at some point I'll saunter back in to say hi and add a nugget or two about whatever crappy LE build I'm running.
Seeing as how this thread is a million pages long, and I haven't played a game of sanctioned Modern in eight months, does someone want to reboot the primer and start a new thread? Not gonna lie, it's cool seeing my name at the top of this nonsense, but the primer has gone stale with regards to its matchups, and my life has taken enough turns and gotten suitably complicated to the point where it's a disservice to you all not to be involved here anymore.
Do note that if they’ve cast a U spell, trap can target any other spell that turn. I’ve redirected a surgical to my opponent’s cryptic command in response to an Opt that was responding to my Outburst on the stack. GG in that one
Even better is when they forget that Ricochet Trap can be cast for 3R.
"Terminate your Cerodon-"
"How about you Terminate your Tasigur, instead?"
I'm really confused by what to make of Jace entering the format. He's never been here before, so we have no data on what decks looked like with him. He probably, however, incentivizes more counterspells in control decks and ones with a slightly more top end focused approach. So we could be in for something like the old UWR days of yore when they could only kill you with Colonnade.
There were Jace decks in Extended when Living End first became a thing. Granted, a few of them are no longer decks (Dark Depths), but it's a place to start.
1 - No, you should not run BBE in your Living End deck. Move on. Yes I know it can hit a cascade into violent outburst into LE, giving you a board full of junk and a 3/2 haste. Most of the time it wont and most of the time its dead. Youll hit Simian Spirit guides and beast withins quite a lot. It is not the direction we need to go in.
I showed up again just to reiterate this, but you beat me to it.
EDIT: I added some notes on BBE to the primer so hopefully we won't have to keep talking about it every six weeks.
Do you suspect that the results from Columbus will result in any last-minute changes to your deck, Ken? I'm talking besides the potential 3rd Blood Moon you mentioned above.
I think that, once people see you go off with Azor's Gateway the first time, they make damn sure you won't do it again. Think of it like the Quest cycles from Zendikar and Worldwake.
Also, to answer your thoughts on Razaketh and Axis of Mortality - I don't own a Raz, he's on my acquire list. As for Axis... well, I cracked a foil out of a pack, you see...
So let’s get some of the questionable decisions out of the way:
Axis of Mortality and Debtors’ Knell – These are essentially the Bubbles and Buttercup to True Conviction’s Blossom in the realm of “haymaker enchantments” to nab in the event of Academy Rector’s untimely demise. Both of them are on trial status, since they are somewhat dependent on what the rest of the table is doing to be effective, but I’d be lying if I said they didn’t appeal to my inner Timmy.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel – Right… so this isn’t a devotion deck. But this serves as a way to win the game when combat isn’t an option (prison mirrors are fuuunnnn). A few activations with the help of Cloudstone Curio or Skybind can go a long way.
Underworld Coinsmith – Very clearly an underpowered card in a battlecruiser format – I have no excuse for its inclusion, other than I like it. Incremental lifegain can occasionally keep your head above water if you’ve got Necro in play, I guess.
Faith’s Reward – Largely because I haven’t stumbled upon a Teferi’s Protection, but this is still a card that people refuse to play around. Affectionately called “Ctrl+Z” by myself and nobody else. I don’t get my token army back, but I got to put Skybind and about six thousand enchantments back on the table. Guess who’s blinking his tapped lands and making a fresh army on your end step!
Much like Daxos, reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.
Also, what Raver said - there will be targets. Literally the only time I've ever cast Demonic Dread on a target that I put on the board myself is against Bogles, and that's not even really a thing anymore.
Put your hand done and update this primer!
Update it with what, exactly? I know the banner is ancient, but I've had the APB for a new one out for a few months now.
I haven't done much with matchups because I haven't been playing a whole lotta modern lately (and I'm sure a lot of you have noticed that I'm not around as much as I used to - new job has MTGS blocked ). If someone wants to step up and volunteer some new blurbs, I'll toss it in there.
New cards - did it already.
I was hoping for the new cards which I hadn't check in a minute, so I'm glad those are in there. I think a few of us can perhaps write up some matchup info. Any preference on how to receive it?
You can just send them through PM and I'll stitch them into the primer with a name credit.
Also, what Raver said - there will be targets. Literally the only time I've ever cast Demonic Dread on a target that I put on the board myself is against Bogles, and that's not even really a thing anymore.
Put your hand done and update this primer!
Update it with what, exactly? I know the banner is ancient, but I've had the APB for a new one out for a few months now.
I haven't done much with matchups because I haven't been playing a whole lotta modern lately (and I'm sure a lot of you have noticed that I'm not around as much as I used to - new job has MTGS blocked ). If someone wants to step up and volunteer some new blurbs, I'll toss it in there.
Also, what Raver said - there will be targets. Literally the only time I've ever cast Demonic Dread on a target that I put on the board myself is against Bogles, and that's not even really a thing anymore.
My biggest gripe with Anger of the Gods is that it's a sorcery, which really limits its functionality as a sweeper against Company decks. Dead // Gone may not be great against them either, but it's at least an instant.
The other thing you could do with that slot is play a 4th copy of Living End - I've done that a few times as an "extra chance" against control decks and it wasn't terrible. Frees up a couple sideboard slots to fight burn, too.
Don't worry - you guys have been keeping the ball rolling just fine without me. I'm not too concerned. And I'm sure at some point I'll saunter back in to say hi and add a nugget or two about whatever crappy LE build I'm running.
Seeing as how this thread is a million pages long, and I haven't played a game of sanctioned Modern in eight months, does someone want to reboot the primer and start a new thread? Not gonna lie, it's cool seeing my name at the top of this nonsense, but the primer has gone stale with regards to its matchups, and my life has taken enough turns and gotten suitably complicated to the point where it's a disservice to you all not to be involved here anymore.
Even better is when they forget that Ricochet Trap can be cast for 3R.
"Terminate your Cerodon-"
"How about you Terminate your Tasigur, instead?"
There were Jace decks in Extended when Living End first became a thing. Granted, a few of them are no longer decks (Dark Depths), but it's a place to start.
I showed up again just to reiterate this, but you beat me to it.
EDIT: I added some notes on BBE to the primer so hopefully we won't have to keep talking about it every six weeks.
Haven't been around much of late (kinda stepped back from MtG to focus on other things) but I'm slowly coming back.
Also, to answer your thoughts on Razaketh and Axis of Mortality - I don't own a Raz, he's on my acquire list. As for Axis... well, I cracked a foil out of a pack, you see...
*heaves a decklist into the thread*
1x Daxos the Returned
Enchantment (28)
1x Act of Authority
1x Arguel's Blood Fast
1x Attrition
1x Aura of Silence
1x Authority of the Consuls
1x Axis of Mortality
1x Blind Obedience
1x Bottomless Pit
1x Chains of Mephistopheles
1x Crackdown
1x Darksteel Mutation
1x Debtors' Knell
1x Flickering Ward
1x Ghostly Prison
1x Grasp of Fate
1x Necrogen Mists
1x Necropotence
1x Nevermore
1x No Mercy
1x Phyrexian Arena
1x Phyrexian Reclamation
1x Righteous Aura
1x Rule of Law
1x Seal of Cleansing
1x Seal of Doom
1x Skybind
1x Sphere of Safety
1x True Conviction
1x Anguished Unmaking
1x Enlightened Tutor
1x Faith’s Reward
1x Swords to Plowshares
1x Utter End
Land (38)
1x Barren Moor
1x Caves of Koilos
1x Command Tower
1x Concealed Courtyard
1x Fetid Heath
1x Ghost Quarter
1x Godless Shrine
1x Isolated Chapel
1x Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
1x Orzhov Basilica
1x Orzhov Guildgate
10x Plains
1x Scoured Barrens
1x Secluded Steppe
1x Serra's Sanctum
1x Shambling Vent
8x Swamp
1x Tainted Field
1x Temple of Silence
1x Temple of the False God
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1x Vault of the Archangel
Artifact (6)
1x Cloudstone Curio
1x Lightning Greaves
1x Orzhov Signet
1x Skullclamp
1x Sol Ring
1x Wayfarer's Bauble
1x Elspeth, Sun's Champion
1x Kaya, Ghost Assassin
Creature (12)
1x Academy Rector
1x Agent of Erebos
1x Burnished Hart
1x Doomwake Giant
1x Eidolon of Rhetoric
1x Emeria Shepherd
1x Gray Merchant of Asphodel
1x Monk Idealist
1x Spirit of the Labyrinth
1x Sun Titan
1x Thoughtrender Lamia
1x Underworld Coinsmith
Sorcery (8)
1x Beseech the Queen
1x Extinguish All Hope
1x Idyllic Tutor
1x Merciless Eviction
1x Replenish
1x Rout
1x Toxic Deluge
1x Vindicate
So let’s get some of the questionable decisions out of the way:
Axis of Mortality and Debtors’ Knell – These are essentially the Bubbles and Buttercup to True Conviction’s Blossom in the realm of “haymaker enchantments” to nab in the event of Academy Rector’s untimely demise. Both of them are on trial status, since they are somewhat dependent on what the rest of the table is doing to be effective, but I’d be lying if I said they didn’t appeal to my inner Timmy.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel – Right… so this isn’t a devotion deck. But this serves as a way to win the game when combat isn’t an option (prison mirrors are fuuunnnn). A few activations with the help of Cloudstone Curio or Skybind can go a long way.
Beseech the Queen – Yep. Still here. Nope, still no Demonic Tutor.
Underworld Coinsmith – Very clearly an underpowered card in a battlecruiser format – I have no excuse for its inclusion, other than I like it. Incremental lifegain can occasionally keep your head above water if you’ve got Necro in play, I guess.
Faith’s Reward – Largely because I haven’t stumbled upon a Teferi’s Protection, but this is still a card that people refuse to play around. Affectionately called “Ctrl+Z” by myself and nobody else. I don’t get my token army back, but I got to put Skybind and about six thousand enchantments back on the table. Guess who’s blinking his tapped lands and making a fresh army on your end step!
Much like Daxos, reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.
You can just send them through PM and I'll stitch them into the primer with a name credit.
Update it with what, exactly? I know the banner is ancient, but I've had the APB for a new one out for a few months now.
I haven't done much with matchups because I haven't been playing a whole lotta modern lately (and I'm sure a lot of you have noticed that I'm not around as much as I used to - new job has MTGS blocked
New cards - did it already.
Dryad Arbor, you guys. Way less dangerous to run an Arbor than Forbidden Orchard.
Also, what Raver said - there will be targets. Literally the only time I've ever cast Demonic Dread on a target that I put on the board myself is against Bogles, and that's not even really a thing anymore.
The other thing you could do with that slot is play a 4th copy of Living End - I've done that a few times as an "extra chance" against control decks and it wasn't terrible. Frees up a couple sideboard slots to fight burn, too.