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Most of the time, you want to play Survival of the Fittest in your Green based deck, I see no reason, nor argument for that matter, against that. Graveyard recursion, artifact / land / enchantment hate / token generation / ramp / card draw / mana doubling: There's nothing this color can't do with its absurd creatures and tons of acceleration, nothing! These are all effects attached to some of Greens best cards. Why would you not like to get them early on and start a simply engine of recursion powered by Genesis for instance? There's other was to do it as well, but all in all, this is a card that bypasses onе of the ideas behind the format, by making games identical. Sure, all tutors do that more or less, but non of those is an enchantment for 1G, that can be activated as much as you like for just one G and fetch you whatever stupid critter you need for the current board state. Over and over again.

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Is the RC watching Survival of the Fittest?

It seems to me that it's vaguely comparable to Recurring Nightmare.
- a low cost enchantment
- with a very low activation cost
- which isn't even really much of a cost (black can love sac-cing creatures, and green can recover a lot of things from the grave, especially creatures)
- which usually guarantees some value before it dies (RN can be played and immediately used without a chance for reaction despite sorcery speed, Survival can be activated in response to something unless that something has split second)
- and enables rather silly plays (broken reanimation loops with ETB and/or death triggers, instant speed repeatable toolboxing with your entire creature base)
- considering the ETB trend of putting spells on legs that are easily flickered, reanimated, retrieved, copied, tutored for (hi Survival), and just generally abused, I can only assume Survival is going to be more and more of an offender as more copies of effects and as newer, different effects are printed

All of that basically to say that I would prefer it if the RC banned enablers and not creatures like Sly Prime and P. Titty, although I understand full well that P. Titty is himself an enabler for land shenanigans and a way to explosively accrue resources. And yes, I am a slightly bitter green mage lol.

Survival is good but with stuff like staff of domination unbanned I don't see an argument on this card being abusive.

On what exactly are you comparing both cards?

Survival of the Fittest is an auto-include card in every-single-green-deck, due to the fact that it allows them to bypass the normal adventurous feel of the format and just tutor for their broken cards and enablers starting turn 2 all game, every game. There's nothing balanced about this card and there's also no real way to answer it. People often don't bother and save cards to deal with what the player with it tutors for, which is also not a viable option because they end up tutoring for cards to bring back the ones they lost.

The card is very much broken and it will be banned, sooner or later. However, just like Primeval Titan before it, it's guarded by a huge amount of fanboys who protect it with their lives.

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Is the RC watching Survival of the Fittest?

It seems to me that it's vaguely comparable to Recurring Nightmare.
- a low cost enchantment
- with a very low activation cost
- which isn't even really much of a cost (black can love sac-cing creatures, and green can recover a lot of things from the grave, especially creatures)
- which usually guarantees some value before it dies (RN can be played and immediately used without a chance for reaction despite sorcery speed, Survival can be activated in response to something unless that something has split second)
- and enables rather silly plays (broken reanimation loops with ETB and/or death triggers, instant speed repeatable toolboxing with your entire creature base)
- considering the ETB trend of putting spells on legs that are easily flickered, reanimated, retrieved, copied, tutored for (hi Survival), and just generally abused, I can only assume Survival is going to be more and more of an offender as more copies of effects and as newer, different effects are printed

All of that basically to say that I would prefer it if the RC banned enablers and not creatures like Sly Prime and P. Titty, although I understand full well that P. Titty is himself an enabler for land shenanigans and a way to explosively accrue resources. And yes, I am a slightly bitter green mage lol.

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This page details the rules common to most play groups. Locally players often play with house rules, and are encouraged to, but this consensus version exists so that players know what to expect if they join a game outside their local play area.

Commander is designed to promote social games of magic.

It is played in a variety of ways, depending on player preference, but a common vision ties together the global community to help them enjoy a different kind of magic. That vision is predicated on a social contract: a gentleman's agreement which goes beyond these rules to includes a degree of interactivity between players. Players should aim to interact both during the game and before it begins, discussing with other players what they expect/want from the game.

House rules or "fair play" exceptions are always encouraged if they result in more fun for the local community.

Commander is designed first and foremost for social players. It cannot be all things to all people.

Nevertheless, many people like to play for prizes or other non-social incentives. Those incentives can help build communities and playgroups, but they can also undermine the social contract which keeps the format balanced.

When running a competitive commander event, the recommended list of cards to avoid (under the primary deckbuilding rules) is one place to start. It is not however, nor is it intended to be, comprehensive. There are a great many uninteresting uses for the cards not listed there, and additional structure is required to keep degeneracy 1 in check. To that end, a selection of optional rules are provided here for prospective TOs or players who find their playgroup can't find a balance.

Degenerate: adj Having fallen below a normal or desireable state, especially functionally, morally, or socially. Having atrophied or declined to a state of sameness.

Since one of the primary features of commander is the variety of games, and the variable nature of the problem each game presents, degenerate plays are those which take away from the variety and unpredictable nature of the games

I don't understand why a LGS is being criticized for adopting variant rules. The RC encourages you to make house rules as a way to keep games fun.

I'm shocked at how many posts in this thread advocate being as cutthroat and anti-social in your deckbuilding as possible without breaking the rules as a way to stick it to them. This is not an attitude that is going to earn you long term friends and skilled opponents, you're relying only on the store owner (or MTGO) putting you into paired games to find opponents and it's a terrible idea to intentionally provoke someone who can ask you to leave and not come back.

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This movie looks bad. Not only does the trailer say nothing about the movie's story, but using animated card art only serves to confuse.

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I'd love to to see Garruk fight Liliana.

Brace for another Triumph of Ferocity feminist rape outcry.