MTG Salvation

I picked up the last card I needed to complete this deck at GP Minneapolis. (Foil Karador) I also had the privilege to meet and play several games with ISBPathfinder.

General and basics



Fetches and duals



Multicolored, bounce, and some utility lands



Utility lands and sac outlets



Tutors



Ramp and draw



Recursion



Removal



More removal and shuffle effects



Grave hate, fog, land recursion and other

I run both Eldrazi to protect my graveyard. I also see Elixir of Immortality played.

My setup uses Survival of the Fittest, Entomb, Vampiric Tutor with Bazaar of Baghdad, a way to flash them into play with a sac outlet, Greater Good, Read the Runes, etc.

Riftsweeper is my backup plan.

Time Stop is useful.

http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Magic_Invitational

Avalanche Riders
Rootwater Thief
Meddling Mage
Shadowmage Infiltrator
Sylvan Safekeeper
Voidmage Prodigy
Solemn Simulacrum
Dark Confidant
Rakdos Augermage
Ranger of Eos
Snapcaster Mage

Gemstone Caverns


http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/You_Make_the_Card

YMTC
Forgotten Ancient
Crucible of Worlds
Vanish into Memory


http://www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x=magic/products/apocalypserememberme

Spiritmonger was a fan submitted card.

I'm not a fan of it. It seems to "slow."

I have ten EDH decks built and an eleventh on the way.

Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund – aggro/control

Hazezon Tamar – token army / aggro

Venser, Shaper Savant – bounce stuff/control

Karador, Ghost Chieftain – control

Child of Alara – cantrip control

Zur the Enchanter - combo

Sharuum the Hegemon – stax

Damia, Sage of Stone – combo

Norin the Wary – sometimes you want to watch the world burn

Nath of the Gilt-Leaf – elves/discard (built for my girlfriend)

Work in progress: Sheoldred, Whispering One – being built for my girlfriend

Quote from Osuna

I was talking about something as in some sort of ramp by turn 4 is kinda the go to for anything with ramp since that is when it is best. By getting rid of any ramp you open up options the same way.

I change my list so frequently that I no longer have a digital form of it that resembles what it is now. I'm busy doing stuff prerelease weekend, but I'll try to find some time to put together my current list. It is a little awkward to go through a deck a card at a time with only my computer for light.

In my meta O-stone only goes off if someone has enough mana to activate it same turn. Not even then if someone is playing esper that day (The blue players protect their mana rocks). Not that Karador is particularly heartbroken when an o-stone goes off, it is just there is a lot of good/repeatable artifact/enchantment/non creature removal around. For a while there was so much I actually cut aura shards because it required instant speed creature support to trigger even once half the time.

Sol Ring seems to sound like a meta call. Most decks I play have Oblivion Stone in them and some also have Pernicious Deed and Plague Boiler. I am also used to playing against Child of Alara and the occasional Null Rod and Stoney Silence. We also see other artifact hate.

On a side note about Aura Shards sometimes I also run Dryad Arbor in the same deck and sit on my fetches to have an instant speed creature come into play.

Rough stats: There is an 8% to 15% chance to have Sol Ring in your opening hand. (using partial paris mulligan).

Here are my thoughts on Sol Ring

Sol Ring offers explosive starts, but that is about it.

It doesn’t thin out the deck, it isn’t that great when drawn later, it doesn’t synergize with the rest of the cards, it can’t be recurred easily, it is not a mid to late game threat, it is narrow in what it does, green ramp and mana rocks clash.

I like Sol Ring, but I play my Karador as a control build and tend to win in the late game with it. Sol Ring doesn’t help me with the late game.

We're getting another EDH specific card just like we did in Commander - Command Tower and Planechase 2 - Fractured Powerstone.

I'm curious what they're going to do this time.

Quote from Steino

From my understanding they would be a creature in every zone except the battlefield if the devotion is less than 5.

Quote from Abrogated

Right, I would be shocked if it didn't work that way. In a similar note I'm giddy about using Erebus, that card is going to be stupid good.

My wording wasn't as good, but I am correct about the Gods being creatures in all other zones regardless of Devotion.

The type-changing ability that can make the God not be a creature functions only on the battlefield. It's always a creature card in other zones, regardless of your devotion to its color.

Other rulings:

If a God enters the battlefield, your devotion to its color (including the mana symbols in the mana cost of the God itself) will determine if a creature entered the battlefield or not, for abilities that trigger whenever a creature enters the battlefield.

If a God stops being a creature, it loses the type creature and all creature subtypes. It continues to be a legendary enchantment.

The abilities of Gods function as long as they're on the battlefield, regardless of whether they're creatures.

If a God is attacking or blocking and it stops being a creature, it will be removed from combat.

If a God is dealt damage, then stops being a creature, then becomes a creature again later in the same turn, the damage will still be marked on it. This is also true for any effects that were affecting the God when it was originally a creature. (Note that in most cases, the damage marked on the God won't matter because it has indestructible.)

Bazaar of Baghdad has a tap to activate, but it provides reusable draw and discard.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=371932

Give this list a look over. A few changes I have compared to the OP. I use Windswept Heath, Flooded Strand, Misty Rainforest and Krosan Verge as my four fetches. I only use 1 plains. The other is a Command Tower. The OP is not up to date with Reliquary Tower, it is now Alchemist's Refuge.

No tutors in the deck except for land tutors. It could run Phyrexian Tower, but life gain felt more important. It loses to really fast aggro and to dedicated mass LD.

It is very resilient to most situations and offers a lot of card advantage through it's cantrips. The list on paper looks like crap, but it plays out well. It is designed for the long game. Usually lots of mana into an end of turn Decree of Justice followed two activations of Gavony Township will seal the game.

Quote from Abrogated

Have we gotten a clear answer on whether or not the "Gods" are going to be creature spells regardless of "dedication"? That would seem to be the deciding factor on Erebus. I'm almost positive it will work that way, but I've heard arguments against it as well.

From my understanding they would be a creature in every zone except the battlefield if the devotion is less than 5.

Quote from Abrogated

Is there any particular reason you're not playing Birthing Pod now? It would be perfect in your deck (a little slow, but what can you do?). Erebus, God of the Dead will almost certainly replace Phyrexian Arena, I think I'm going to keep Library in until I can scrounge up enough cash for Bazaar. Yosei, the Morning Star is possibly the most boring win I've ever had. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to have an early combo win available but it sits in my hand in far too many games. Will probably become Ashen Rider

No good reason. I just don't own a second one. It is on my list of cards to trade for. I am hopeful for Erebus. I agree with Yosei. When a deck is under powered he can be fun and used to combat the stronger decks. When a deck is over powered he makes the game fun for no one.

Quote from blackkithkin20

Uh, what? Sylvan Library is one of the best cards ever for card advantage. You'd be nuts to cut it from any list. I wouldn't cut the Arena either. Find another slot for the land.

If you’d like to question my sanity then go for it. The enchantments are too slow and usually don’t stick around long enough to make them worth it. If anything I used to play Graveborn Muse over Phyrexain Arena because it was a creature and could potentially draw more cards, but I still don’t like having to wait until the upkeep because it might not be around.

For reference I’ve included my list. Special note: I’ll probably cut Yosei, the Morning Star, Harvester of Souls and Artisan of Kozilek once Theros is released for Birthing Pod, Erebos, God of the Dead and Ashen Rider. My list still has room for tweaking.

Yosei is cool once or twice, but after that it feels like a “meh” win. This kind of lock-out gets boring fast.

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Phyrexian Arena and Sylvan Library have both proven to be decent replacements for Bazaar, I fear if I cut them I'll end up in top-deck mode too often.

From my experience decent isn't good enough. You'd be lucky to use these a few times before they get destroyed. The other downfall is if they don't come in the early game then they are a sadface top deck.

I haven't tried Dark Prophecy, but it looks like it would net more cards. I've been playing with Harvester of Souls, but it might get the cut after the next set comes out. The real trick I've found with card draw is maybe I can't "draw" more cards then my opponents, but I can out resource them. Pernicious Deed, Oblivion Stone, Plague Boiler, False Prophet, recursion, Mindslicer, etc.