With the new Revolt Zoo seeming to be blindingly fast, is there still a reason to be on the big zoo plan? It seems that this Gruul zoo varient is pretty much what Lantern was playing before Nacatl got unbanned. Play tons of small dudes and goldfish turn 3-4. What does bigger zoo offer, unless you just like playing with fatties, which I understand
I've been playing a budget version of Revolt Zoo (Kird Apes instead of Goblin Guides) and my assesment is that it has a very good Zoo game coupled with the odd hand (20%-ish) that can't be beaten by most decks in the format. Any deck that can race Burn with the Average hand is very good.
I haven't come across an unwinnable matchup yet, though I feel Ad Nauseam might be bad.
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We can run Wear // Tear in our sideboard. It should 100% replace Chewie if you are already splashing for Recluse. Oddly enough we can now run a pseudo Pyroclasm in the manner of Rough // Tumble.
I don't like ditching Recluse in favour of Ifnir just yet. Recluse gives us Blood Moon protection. Nothing feels worse than being cut off from Green early on. It 100% Replaces Jingle Weaver though. That card can get binned.
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Traditionaly this deck used Riftwing and Clique together because Beast Within had not been printed. They were played together to Clique your opponent, Clique yourself, bounce problem permanents, bounce your Clique or Ardent Plea for a redux Balance.
Now we have more options, and maybe better options that have been printed.
2. Cascade into restore balance allow u to control the opponent cards in hands and also his/her lands. The lands destruction is not the deck main priority. Its main priority is number 1
15. Most of the time u dont want to suspend Restore Balance, for the best practice is NEVER suspend Restore Balance
Disagree on these two points. Hitting all three things is the most important aspect. Denying your opponents resources is what this deck is all about.
I have to date only won a handful of games without a successful Balance. Most games end off of two balances, one of which may have come off an early suspend.
There is a Modern GP coming to Vancouver in February and I have this brew that has been working very well for me that I'd like to get fine tuned for the event. Here's the decklist with a brief description, card choices and my current thoughts below.
P.S. I actually like this deck. I also like where Esper Delver will be with the Onslaught Fetches being legal, as Esper Gifts, Grixis Cruel Control and Domain Zoo.
Yeah, I play against RB quite a lot in my LGS since I lend my deck and there is another guy that also plays it.
Mostly my T1 fetch is Dryad Arbor and then I usually beast on of my lands if I have an SSG in hand. Getting in some fast beats puts a lot of pressure considering LE can recur the Dryad Arbor.
All of my games on MTGO against LE have gone poorly, ending with Ingot Chewer shenanigans
hich is,a weakness of the post version.
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IMHO, what would make the deck much better is a 3 colour core. It's probably only doable if they print enemy borderposts which could happen in this set.
In Particular GU borderpost would do it. Maybe even RW would work well.
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How do you guys feel about 1-2 Slaver maindeck without Academy Ruins or a way to recur it? I've said this before, and I'll say it again; a single Slaver activation will often win games by itself. I guess it's a meta choice, but I'd like your input.
I run Academy Ruins in my main as a mana source and a singleton Mindslaver in the main. I usually side in the combo pieces afterwards and with Ancient Stirrings in the main, getting the 1-of Mindslaver happens quite often.
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It cannot.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
I've been playing a budget version of Revolt Zoo (Kird Apes instead of Goblin Guides) and my assesment is that it has a very good Zoo game coupled with the odd hand (20%-ish) that can't be beaten by most decks in the format. Any deck that can race Burn with the Average hand is very good.
I haven't come across an unwinnable matchup yet, though I feel Ad Nauseam might be bad.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
I don't like ditching Recluse in favour of Ifnir just yet. Recluse gives us Blood Moon protection. Nothing feels worse than being cut off from Green early on. It 100% Replaces Jingle Weaver though. That card can get binned.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
Just run Blood Moon in your side to get an edge on them. You can rush it out with Simian Spirit Guide.
As Foretold works better in this deck than say Living End.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
Rough // Tumble
Wear // Tear
These are real now.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
Goblin Dank Dwellers, and the life gain matters.
Traditionaly this deck used Riftwing and Clique together because Beast Within had not been printed. They were played together to Clique your opponent, Clique yourself, bounce problem permanents, bounce your Clique or Ardent Plea for a redux Balance.
Now we have more options, and maybe better options that have been printed.
So there's a history lesson.
Disagree on these two points. Hitting all three things is the most important aspect. Denying your opponents resources is what this deck is all about.
I have to date only won a handful of games without a successful Balance. Most games end off of two balances, one of which may have come off an early suspend.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
Looks good, see you at GP Van.
P.S. I actually like this deck. I also like where Esper Delver will be with the Onslaught Fetches being legal, as Esper Gifts, Grixis Cruel Control and Domain Zoo.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
Mostly my T1 fetch is Dryad Arbor and then I usually beast on of my lands if I have an SSG in hand. Getting in some fast beats puts a lot of pressure considering LE can recur the Dryad Arbor.
All of my games on MTGO against LE have gone poorly, ending with Ingot Chewer shenanigans
hich is,a weakness of the post version.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
I play them both and usually LE just casts a durdle and gets in beats while sandbagging lands.
You go off, they go off, they win. If you don't go off, they'll get you with a Beast Within and Dryad Arbor.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
Cascading into Death Cloud seems bad?Whoops, thought Death Cloud was XBB
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
IMHO, what would make the deck much better is a 3 colour core. It's probably only doable if they print enemy borderposts which could happen in this set.
In Particular GU borderpost would do it. Maybe even RW would work well.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R
I run Academy Ruins in my main as a mana source and a singleton Mindslaver in the main. I usually side in the combo pieces afterwards and with Ancient Stirrings in the main, getting the 1-of Mindslaver happens quite often.
My Modern decks:
B/R/G Living End G/R/B
G/R Tron R/G
U/W/G/R Gargageddon R/G/W/U
R/W/G Naya Burn G/W/R