MTG Salvation

I disagree about Red having better board wipes, Black has way better ones by a country mile.

I understand if you guys are located in a small town, but if you look hard enough you should be able to find FTVs at decent prices. In fact for FTV20 one of the stores in my town actually had so many they advertised they were selling them at MRSP where I went and grabbed one.

I'm inclined to believe Riki's ruling, if it were able to be used multiple times the text would be much simpler and succinct. I think this is a card that could have used some sort of reminder text, especially in a core set.

I strongly suspect that the card art spoiled is Savage Twister, I also really hope that there are some sick new arts for the inevitable Wrath and/or Damnation reprint.

So this program's GUI has aspects that aren't working properly for me, I can't select individual sets, nor remove sets after I have added them to a database. Could someone possibly lend a hand with my issue?

Omniscience is dominated by Krosan Grip, at best they can get off one sorcery and all their instants before you destroy it. I know because I run douchey Omniscience decks and Krosan Grip gets me every time.

Well I guess Wizards is up for printing super awesome walkers again now. Seems like the ghosts of Worldwake past have been exorcised.

Art is nice but it should be on Mortify, it makes no sense for Vindicate.

So for example you could cast Pyroblast targeting a non-blue permanent and then redirect it back to it for some arbitrary reason? Does that mean that the cards are basically functionally identical?

Cards for reference
Red Elemental Blast
Pyroblast

I'm scratching my head here trying to find the difference between these cards, does Pyroblast get countered if the spell changes colour before it resolves but REB does not?

I hoard Madcap skills.

Quote from Roidh

You do realize that of the four characters you mentioned you picked three neo-walkers (well I guess you could say Bolas is "old" but at this point he's been redefined so much I don't think it counts) of which none of them are actually well defined interesting characters. The problem is that none of these characters really have much depth. All the characteristics you mentioned about these characters are about how deep the characters actually go. Instead of actual three dimensional characters we're just being given superficially awesome superhero team that we're all just supposed to admire and think how awesome they are.

First of all, Jace is as much of a neo-walker as the other characters I selected. So what makes Jace a Sue and all of the other characters immune to being Sues when they are both on the same level?

I chose the ones with some literature, if I'd wanted more I could have selected Gideon, Liliana, Garruk, Venser, or any of the other characters that starred in novels or comics. However Bolas, Chandra, Jace, and Ajani have been in at least ONE NOVEL each.

Quote from H.R.Pufnsting

I see the point went flying over your head. It isn't that he is as a character has anyone particular attribute its that he as a character has ALL these attributes.

I can use that criteria to make a case for a bunch of characters.

Urza
Powerful? Check
Handsome? Check
Intelligent? Super check
Key Player? Check
Special Power? Aside from being a planeswalker he was a super gifted artificer

Ajani Goldmane
Powerful? He managed to sort of thwart Bolas
Handsome? I guess
Intelligent? Enough to outsmart Bolas
Key Player? Alara Block as well as being a part of Elspeth's story
Special Power? He was born an albino and he has soul magic

Nicol Bolas
Powerful? Yes
Handsome? Probably
Intelligent? Super
Key Player? 9/10 Bolas is involved
Special Power? Elder Dragon, Oldwalker, Magic touch

Chandra
Powerful? Yes
Beautiful? She's smokin'
Intelligent? Not her strong point but she's ingenious in terms of using her pyromancy
Key Player? Had her own book, and was important in Rise
Special Power? She's a super gifted pyromancer (Note that her power is also taboo on her home plane, ooh so snowflakey)

I could do this for pretty much any Planeswalker yet for some reason Jace is the one who gets all the flak.

Quote from H.R.Pufnsting

He uses a lot of the same tropes that mary sue characters use, intelligent, powerful, handsome, mysterious, always being a key player in events of the multiverse and with special snowflakeness like telepathy.

Here we go again!

Intelligence
So every smart character in fiction is a Mary Sue? He isn't even the smartest in the main cast of characters!

Powerful
So any character who has power is a Mary Sue?

Handsome
So any character who looks half decent is a Mary Sue? Well I guess he's vying for Sue supremacy between Liliana, Chandra, Gerrard, Gideon, Garruk, and half the damn cast.

Always a Key Player
Lorwyn
Alara
Zendikar
Scars
Innistrad
Return to Ravnica

Red=Not involved
Yellow=Semi-involved
Green=Key player

In the 6 blocks that we've had since Jace's inception Jace has starred in ONE of them. OY VEY! IT'S ANOTHER WEATHERLIGHT! WHEN IS SOMEONE OTHER THAN GERRARD GOING TO TAKE THE STAGE!?

Special Power
It's okay for a character to have a special power in fiction, and as far as "snowflakey" goes telepathy is pretty tame. Especially since things like

• Psychic Barrier
  
• Psychic Battle
  
• Psychic Allergy
  
• Psychic Drain
  
• Psychic Membrane
  
• Psychic Miasma
  
• Psychic Overload
  
• Psychic Possession
  
• Psychic Puppetry
  
• Psychic Purge
  
• Psychic Spear
  
• Psychic Spiral
  
• Psychic Strike
  
• Psychic Surgery
  
• Psychic Theft
  
• Psychic Trance
  
• Psychic Transfer
  
• Psychic Venom
  
• Psychic Vortex
  

imply that having mind powers isn't that rare.

Quote from Infallible

A mary sue is what Bella from Twilight is to Stephani Meyer or what every drunk writer character is in King novels to Stephen King iirc. Jace is a mary sue to what a lot of magic players see themselves as i guess. Personally I do not really see it. I rarely meet a magic player who looks or acts like Jace.

An author surrogate or self-insert character is not a Mary Sue, though most Mary Sues are author surrogates or self-insert characters. Jace is a character that players can project themselves onto and that may be the reason for his inception at R&D but he pales in comparison to actual Sues.