Been away a little while, but happy to see the forums are back in some shape or form. I believe I recognize some of the old timers under a different name...
I don't like Mythoses nor the Mutate cards. Yorion decks want permanents, not spells, and you don't have enough Mutate support (i.e. cheap creatures to Mutate on to). Sarulf is also heinous in Yorion decks because he exiles all of your perms too. Personally I would cut these cards in favor of more Yorion stuff and please play the 3 Yorions main + 1 "SB."
For 2 drops I like Mycosynth Wellspring because it helps you hit your lands drops and works well with Doom Foretold. Watcher for Tomorrow is also insane because it triggers on ETB and LTB. For 3 drops I like Oath of Liliana for obvious reasons. For 4 drops I'm a huge fan of Showdown of the Skalds because it's like a Blessing that draws 4 cards instead of 3 and that doesn't cost any life. I know it's 4 mana and it only lasts a turn but Skalds has been amazing in my testing. For 5 drops I prefer The Eldest Reborn over ECD but both are very good. I almost always play the full 4 TERs in my lists.
For additional mass bounce I adore Brago, King Eternal in these builds. Not only does he bounce all of your stuff but he also hits Yorion who then comes back and does Yorion things. It scales wildly out of control after a turn of two.
If you want something silly Witty Demon is bonkers in these decks. Only if your meta is cool with it obv.
The main change that I recommend is ditching Aetherling in favor of Approach of the Second Sun and bumping it up to 2 copies if possible. It's by far and away the best Control wincon and I'll often splash White just to include it. Otherwise the main card that should be looking at is Sublime Exhalation over some of the more expensive mass removal spells.
If you ever want to put some real money in the deck Ancient Tomb, Mox Opal and Mana Vault are fantastic and they all have recent printings. Mystic Forge is also nutty once you start going heavy on the mana rocks.
Appreciate the reviews, always love seeing people's takes on new cards. That being said I think that you're overrating Leyline Tyrant and Nighthawk Scavenger. Both are essentially unplayable in my mind. I also think that you're way too low on the Bolt lands and many of the spell lands like Bala Ged Recovery. Agadeem's Awakening is bonkers and I'm buying 4 asap. Monoblack Devotion isn't the only Black deck on the market. It's very easy to build around cards like Stitcher's Supplier, Fiend Artisan and Gorging Vulture that can abuse lands like Phyrexian Tower, Crypt of Agadeem and Agadeem's Awakening to provides some amazing mid-to-lategame value. You're also looking at it the wrong way when you say "you can play Living Death instead" because it's an "addition" as opposed to a "replacement." I think that all of the Bolt lands are amazing and that they'll see play in multiplayer formats like EDH for decades to come.
Otherwise I can't stress enough how broken spell lands like Bala Ged Recovery are (especially in slower/fair metas). Early game it's a land and lategame it buys back your best spell for reuse. It's absolutely perfect card and I like it way better than things like Regrowth which was a Vintage BANNED card at one point. Whereas Regrowth can be weak/useless early on this card is never dead in the developing stages of the game and later on it's just another copy of your best spell. The card is insanely good.
For MBC you have to choose how you want to build it because the deck can't do everything. If you want a ton of creatures then board wipes aren't possible; Pestilence is no bueno in a deck full of 1/1s. Rather, your "board wipe" is curving Nightmare Shepherd into Plaguecrafter and forcing each opponent to sac 2 creatures.
One thing to consider is that you don't need to buy exactly 60 cards for your deck. There's nothing stopping you from grabbing things like Dark Ritual and Pestilence so that you can try different combinations based on your meta needs.
While there's plenty of great cards in the set I'm mostly excited about Serrated Scorpion, Whisper Squad and Bastion of Remembrance for various stax/drain/MBC builds. Very powerful cards at rock-bottom prices is always a win in my books.
Deck looks good! I don't usually quibble about small changes and nothing seems out-of-place. You have more than enough lands, removal, cheap plays and inevitability. Changing a few cards around doesn't change the deck in a meaningful way so if you're happy with it then so am I.
This deck will struggle to hit 10 mana so I wouldn't recommend it. Knights' Charge does a similar thing for 8 mana and is a better 3 mana play than Josu Vess is as a 4 mana play.
I've been playing things like this myself. Lurrus is a ton of fun to build around . This set has so many amazing cards for these sacrifice-based decks including Serrated Scorpion, Whisper Squad and Fiend Artisan. I also plan to build something like:
Also taking a look at Insatiable Hemophage, if you mutate one on it, that's 1 damage, two is 4, three 9, and four 16? If that's how it works? Seems like a worse Gary obviously but there could be some merit to it. Chittering Harvester and Cavern Whisperer seem okay as well in casual circles.
Agreed! I'm also going to build that deck for fun:
It's a good card for any Zulaport Cutthroat style deck. I got my 5 (4 for Constructed, 1 for EDH) and I intend to use them in a variety of shells. It's durable, it scales well, it adds devotion, there's enough going on here for us to like.
Cowards. All of them.
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For 2 drops I like Mycosynth Wellspring because it helps you hit your lands drops and works well with Doom Foretold. Watcher for Tomorrow is also insane because it triggers on ETB and LTB. For 3 drops I like Oath of Liliana for obvious reasons. For 4 drops I'm a huge fan of Showdown of the Skalds because it's like a Blessing that draws 4 cards instead of 3 and that doesn't cost any life. I know it's 4 mana and it only lasts a turn but Skalds has been amazing in my testing. For 5 drops I prefer The Eldest Reborn over ECD but both are very good. I almost always play the full 4 TERs in my lists.
For additional mass bounce I adore Brago, King Eternal in these builds. Not only does he bounce all of your stuff but he also hits Yorion who then comes back and does Yorion things. It scales wildly out of control after a turn of two.
If you want something silly Witty Demon is bonkers in these decks. Only if your meta is cool with it obv.
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Scour from Existence and Titan's Presence are easy cuts for things like Spine of Ish Sah. You can even play 4 and 4 copies of Phyrexia's Core for a powerful lategame engine. Meteor Golem also works but the Spine Core engine is a great mana sink and Spine is a good sac target for Tinker. Unstable Obelisk can also get the axe if needed.
2x Darksteel Juggernaut is an easy cut for another key + Forsaken Monument or 2 Monuments or whatever.
If you ever want to put some real money in the deck Ancient Tomb, Mox Opal and Mana Vault are fantastic and they all have recent printings. Mystic Forge is also nutty once you start going heavy on the mana rocks.
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Otherwise I can't stress enough how broken spell lands like Bala Ged Recovery are (especially in slower/fair metas). Early game it's a land and lategame it buys back your best spell for reuse. It's absolutely perfect card and I like it way better than things like Regrowth which was a Vintage BANNED card at one point. Whereas Regrowth can be weak/useless early on this card is never dead in the developing stages of the game and later on it's just another copy of your best spell. The card is insanely good.
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Phyrexian Rager is an easy cut for Ayara, First of Locthwain if you want to add her. They fill a similar role.
One thing to consider is that you don't need to buy exactly 60 cards for your deck. There's nothing stopping you from grabbing things like Dark Ritual and Pestilence so that you can try different combinations based on your meta needs.
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Deck looks good! I don't usually quibble about small changes and nothing seems out-of-place. You have more than enough lands, removal, cheap plays and inevitability. Changing a few cards around doesn't change the deck in a meaningful way so if you're happy with it then so am I.
This deck will struggle to hit 10 mana so I wouldn't recommend it. Knights' Charge does a similar thing for 8 mana and is a better 3 mana play than Josu Vess is as a 4 mana play.
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1x Lurrus of the Dream-Den
Lands (24)
20x Swamp
4x Castle Locthwain
Creatures (26)
4x Cauldron Familiar
4x Serrated Scorpion
4x Whisper Squad
4x Zulaport Cutthroat
4x Priest of Forgotten Gods
4x Fiend Artisan
1x Tymaret, Chosen from Death
1x Lampad of Death's Vigil
4x Witch's Oven
2x Throne of the God-Pharaoh
4x Gruesome Menagerie
I've been playing things like this myself. Lurrus is a ton of fun to build around . This set has so many amazing cards for these sacrifice-based decks including Serrated Scorpion, Whisper Squad and Fiend Artisan. I also plan to build something like:
1x Lurrus of the Dream-Den
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24x Land
Creatures (23)
4x Soul Warden
4x Soul's Attendant
4x Serra Ascendant
4x Ajani's Pridemate
4x Karlov of the Ghost Council
2x Vizkopa Guildmage
1x Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
4x Authority of the Consuls
4x Swords to Plowshares
2x Dawn of Hope
2x Return to the Ranks
1x Dreadhorde Invasion
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Agreed! I'm also going to build that deck for fun:
24x Land
Creatures (20)
4x Gladecover Scout
4x Silhana Ledgewalker
4x Insatiable Hemophage
4x Cavern Whisperer
4x Chittering Harvester
4x Once Upon a Time
Flex Slots (12)
12x Flex Slots
My flex slots would be things like Paradise Druid, Assassin's Trophy, Find // Finality, Beast Within, Pernicious Deed, Deathreap Ritual and maybe some of the Mythic Mutate creatures.
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It's a good card for any Zulaport Cutthroat style deck. I got my 5 (4 for Constructed, 1 for EDH) and I intend to use them in a variety of shells. It's durable, it scales well, it adds devotion, there's enough going on here for us to like.
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Green - Blue - Red - White - Gold
Positive.
Ozolith gets the counters and Skullbriar keeps its own.
https://twitter.com/WotC_Matt/status/1247573013471477760
Straight From Matt Tabak himself.
Yes, The Ozolith is THAT broken.
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Actually it does. The wording is weird but it generates new counters; it doesn't move the existing ones.
7x Forest
4x Tree of Tales
4x Llanowar Reborn
4x Inkmoth Nexus
4x Blinkmoth Nexus
1x Pendelhaven
4x Arcbound Worker
4x Arcbound Ravager
4x Steel Overseer
4x Scrapyard Recombiner
4x Walking Ballista
4x Hangarback Walker
4x Mox Opal
4x Hardened Scales
4x The Ozolith
4x Once Upon a Time
This is more-or-less what I would play. I might add Black for Winding Constrictor and/or Skullbriar, the Walking Grave but you get the idea.
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