MTG Salvation

And yes evolving wilds might actually be needed...I also shudder at the thought of playing banners...

Ignore the 2 fetch part you are right, forgot about the fact that everybody has only 1. It still doesn't change the fact that there's no ramp or good fixing without green and marfu goodstuff isn't exactly cheap either.

Of course I'm talking about the mana base. We kinda need to have more than just bloodstained mire. As for painlands we are missing the BR painlands. Missing colour splashing in a wedge that has no ramp and no mana fixing like cariatid is kinda lame. Sure mana confluence works but we have no courser and in this meta with all these self damaging spells like thoughtseize, fetches, raider's spoils and whatnot it just seems bad to run all 3 colours of mardu. It kinda pushes construction decks to mono b or mono r or simply boros rakdos orzhov etc. Anybody else shares this feeling?

Yes Grim-Grin definitely works well but the combos he can pull off requires 3-4 cards mostly and require quite a bit of setup, and I can't justify playing Rooftop Storm just for non majority zombie deck :/

Horn of Greed perhaps? Seems good in your deck

Intruder alarm + bloodline/krenko + altars = infi mana, +blood artist = infi drain/damage, +puphoros/warstorm surge = infi damage, can even add ogre battledriver for infi haste dudes :/

The vela I'm unsure of to be honest, I did take out the whole grimgrin zombie package though. I think I need some sort of tempo play and earlyish creature presence but can't think of anything worthy of a spot :/

Deck has been majorly changed now its a complete combo deck after much thoughts on the way my playgroup plays, has like at least 10 different wincons and tried to steer away from easily countered ones, thoughts?

My take on Grimgrin, Corpse-Born, featuring quite a few infinite combos and value creatures yet remains largely zombie tribal. It's a comboish beatdown deck which can win either way. Considering cards like coat of arms and door of destiny but can't seem to find space :/

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Suggestions etc welcomed, budget is not really a problem so feel free to suggest anything.

I think I need major help on my current brewed list, manabase needs some serious help and creature choices too, this deck is curving out way too high but everything good or better seem to be in high cmc for grixis colours :/

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By all means, suggest away. I'm looking for cheaper cmc value cards that works well and alt wincons should I ever lose marchesa. Budget not a problem so anything as long as it works lol. Also wanna fit in tezz seeker and sorin markov T_T

Yah I'm thinking off infinite alt wincon if she gets hindered or something hence why Mikaeus is like so boss in this deck, second commander for sure. And yeh nim deathmantle should be in the deck, phyrexian/ashnod altar too. Not sure about altar of dementia haha. But yes thanks for the tip on the infinite thread! Will check out.

So....Any decklist yet!?

I'm making her right now and can't decide on how to fit like 130 cards into this one deck and most arn't even lands...

Is there a way to go infinite in this deck with just altars/mikaeus? Or any other infinite stuff that's not degenerate blue based. I don't want to resort to deadeye navigator shennanigans/power artifact etc...I do like to win off Exsanguinate though lol

I'm happy to see verdict/dsphere/rev go away...

I don't care too much about rats or demons etc, burning-tree however will be missed T_T

Ok I made mine work! Great ideas from your primer but my deck is very different. Overall this version does really well for me. Anyway decklist

I meant complete token strategy using conqueror's pledge, eldrazi monument, all the token generators and wrap them with anthem etc etc and actually keep board clear with teysa's 1st ability rather than twiddling with getting creature tokens and some sort of cruel control. I find going every direction weakens the deck's overall strength and consistency. I tried your version in various 4 player games and find it extremely slow and very easily focused upon. As soon as you bring out hindrances, say soot stack or braids, I just get royally nuked. My playgroup has well, rakdos, karona, marath, xenagos, thada adel, melak, zegana, derevi...So yeh, full scale aggro or blue decks going infinite or endless turns etc etc. So how do I make your deck do well against these sort of deck? Control is out of the question because people like to play the game as it plays so it's just unanimous agreement that it turns into 3v1 :/ Tokens and boardwipes are actually more acceptible than teysa combos for them lol.....

4-0 in 5 fnms/mnms....taking this to gameday today