I like Vintage, then Legacy or Elder Dragon Highlander, Cube, 40 card minimum decks, Pauper, casual
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
I like Vintage, then Legacy or Elder Dragon Highlander, Cube, 40 card minimum decks, Pauper, casual
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Some cowbell that could help are more (are more I like that):
+2-4 Tangle Wire
+3-4 Goblin Welder
+4 Null Rod
+3-4 Bazaar of Baghdad
X Mountains maybe Uba Mask
maybe some Inkmoth Nexus maybe Mental Mistep and or Surgical Extraction
maybe more Crucible of Worlds
As to why, well I think having Plague Myr doesn't help all that much first off he has the same power as both Necropede and Ichorclaw Myr unblocked. Secondly tapping for one mana isn't terribly that much, there are other cards for greater, if needed mana acceleration. Without Plague Myr Null Rod wouldn't hinder any of your cards, perhaps a mix of one of the two; two being Chalice of the Void.
Both Ichorclaw Myr and Necropede can give your opponent one poison counter they both have abilities that can suppress creatures. I might up the necropede count if there were a large percentage of creature based strategies in the meta I participate in, especially if those creatures were Dark Confidant or other utility creatures. Ichorclaw Myr is more cumbersome to a Tarmogoyf, or other big creatures if they happen to be present.
Smokestack while useful, takes longer to shine in a match, than say Tangle Wire would.
Bazaar of Baghdad and Goblin Welder are like the duo of Robot Unicorns prancing, and dieing a fiery death as the awesome song Always by Erasure plays simultaneously. I especially think Goblin Welder is good, for you have increased shenanigians utilizing Necropedes and Corpse Cur with the Welder. On the same token you may encounter increased hate via graveyard hate.
Inkmoth Nexus could be become pretty crazy with a well timed Crucible of Worlds, great for (slowly) killing (big) creatures if any and the evasion is nice.
Uba Mask hurts most decks, can create a lock if circumstances are right. Plus Goblin Welder likes to play with this thing.
Then playing around with Mental Mistep could be interesting although it would be 2 life per cast. Surgical Extraction may be more than a dead duck in some metas in games 1-3.
I don't play Vintage, yet I like the deck and metagame conceptual faces of the format. Good luck I hope this helps.
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What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
More ideas, told to me by a screeching whisper: that perhaps there are words in this language whose only function is setting up the sentence syntax. These words would include tense, aspect, and complement markers. Secondly in some languages question words who, what, where etcetera are supposed to go the end. Finally any good sites linguistic stuff, it could help others their contributions.
By the by here is my picture of the card in Phyrexian with lots of lines that could make sense to others... http://cubeupload.com/im/3PePEF.jpg You may need to zoom in to see the lines. The code for writing the Phyrexian script confuses me some and not entirely, inasmuch as I decided to post this image so if I managed to find anything new it could be somewhat clearly understood.
P.S. If the screeching whisper's ideas don't make sense don't worry, it is just an idea I got from trying to understand A !Xóõ Dictionary by Anthony Traill.
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What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
NV*_G_^`_*Z (--2nd lore sentence's second line below the end of the first sentence in the Elish Norn, Grand Cenobite Phyrexian version--) shares the same letters up to the *Z.
Y_J'_"Z - maybe possessive and or suffix for an individual
I don't know much about linguistics, however any thoughts as to how far of an extent this language is in being an inflexive, word order, and or other things language.
Oh...high quality zoomed in image(s) on the text of the card Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite in phyrexia, would be helpful.
Another idea, in German sometimes words would be seperated such as ("Sie sieht gut aus." "She looks good." Where aussehen as a verb is seperable.) Perhaps this language uses it too, just another thought.
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What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
I like Vintage, then Legacy or Elder Dragon Highlander, Cube, 40 card minimum decks, Pauper, casual
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Zo-Zu, The Punisher too same effect on a legendary creature though. Storm Cauldron way too expensive, but helps anyone trying to combo. Plus Storm Cauldron forces them to take more damage from Ankh of Mishra or Zo-Zu.
But Zo-Zu is legendary, and land totals are ~ 1/4 of a deck so it could go either way. If anyone plays a fetchland 2 damage and then if they crack it -1 life and land into play another 2 damage, totaling 5 less life. He's a legendary Time of Need (can tutor for him not saying to use it just throwing it out there)then you can also hit for 2 or block. 10 turn clock if no wins the game or stops Zo-Zu, not that great. but if you get it early enough it could be a pain with an opponent with an active dark confidant and or low on man due to null rod wasted lands striped lands etc.
Would be interesting to see someone use it efficently, one day perhaps.
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Ronen Axehammer (R/W)
Legendary Creature - Human Soldier
Double Strike
2/1 "To battle, and victory!"
I really like red/white cards, and I wanted to make a war-themed deck. Red/white gets double-strike and all the best combat tricks, as well as extra combat steps and so on. Agrus Kos is decent, but I'd rather something simpler. Everyone and their mother plays Brion Stoutarm, he doesn't really fit the deck I want to build. And Razia is much too expensive. So, I've got this little guy, leading the charge. Is two power with double strike a little too much for turn 1? I briefly considered going with a RW mana cost and making him a 2/3 instead. Not sure, though.
The power and toughness is a maybe would be fine i edh I think since you have so much life, but if it were to be printed idk maybe it could stay like that...or they might add when Ronen Axehammer attacks it gets -1/-0 until end of turn. Makes the card a lot less fast.
A few of us around here have been toying with the idea of each creating our own generals for casual multiplayer games. Essentially, one would go to the drawing board, develop a general, and run their submissions by the group to make sure the card is balanced, flavorful, and intuitive. The general would also have to be something that fits the color pie...sorry, no monoblack generals with a disenchant effect. If a particular general gets too out of hand, it goes back to the drawing board. We're looking at this as a creative exercise to breathe new life into the game as well as being a way to enable certain color combinations that are currently under/mis-represented in EDH. Additionally, this encourages development of deckbuilding skills since one can't exactly netdeck to build around a card that doesn't exist.
Anyway, I figured that it might be a fun exercise for the forum to participate in as well. I encourage you to share your thoughts and/or submissions. Thanks all, as always, happy EDH'ing.
My Current Submission:
1WBR
Legendary Creature-Zombie Knight
Doublestrike, wither, haste
2/3
Chivalry is dead.
First off I think the enemy wedge (tri-color) generals are severely limited, especially since their allied counterparts are so plentiful. Therefore my first design criteria was to fulfill this role, in my case WBR because I tend to lean towards UG in most other cases. I also am not typically a huge fan of aggro so I wanted to create a creature that would make myself want to play aggressively. IMO one of the best abilities that aggro has access to is Doublestrike, especially in EDH where general damage needs to be taken into consideration. That ability in conjunction with Wither just makes it crazy for taking down blockers or reducing the size of a larger opposing general (thus reducing the effect of general damage coming at you). Haste is also typically very relevant from my EDH experience since there are so many mass removal spells flying around. By combining them you end up with a creature that is very Lightning Angel-esque with all of the abilities being representative of each of the colors in the casting cost. The 2/3 body seems appropriate given the extent of the abilities, effectively allowing the general to take on as much as a 4/4 in combat and survive. Throw any sort of equipment in the mix and you have yourself a party...SoFI or Jitte anybody? All he needs is some badass flavor text (see above) and he's good to go.
I also like to think of him as the antithesis to Rafiq of the Many. I can imagine the two of them in combat, both capable of killing the other, the victor will be whoever attacks into the other first. But despite killing Rolav in combat, Rafiq would have some major battle scars to show for it.
I agree more than one tri color generals paired with its enemy colors WBR, URG, RWU, GUB, and BGW. Plus each of these combinations has ~ 2 cards total! Fungal Shambler is good too bad he isn't legendary
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What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
For the first card maybe change the abilities you have listed to keyworded abilties. That way over time this thing could vary greater. Also you forgot to add: write in flavor text
Fashionista cmc is about right not higher I think, but perhaps you could add "At the beginning of your draw step you may set aside the top three cards of your library and shuffle them, roll a die on a result of 1-2 exile 1 of those cards, on the result of 3-4 exile two of those cards, on the result of 5-6 exile all three of the cards." Or "At the beginning of your upkeep exile the top card of your library and the bottom card of your library."
Enflamed Bannana 1GGR
creatue - Bannana [looks angry]
At the beginning of each player's untap step, that player gains a temptation counter, unless that player says "mmhm I can't resist...ahhhhh my tongue!" During each upkeep remove all counters created by Enflamed Bannana, Enflamed Bannana deals 1 dammage to that player for each counter he or she controlled removed this way. Look at it...I just got to...OW...oh mmm so good
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I know it involves memory but thats the funny part to me
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Oh another possibility maybe would be Amulet of Vigorhttp://mtgsalvation.com/worldwake-spoiler.html Lots of land related stuff coming out this block and interesting cards. Although I've been reading quite a bit of complaints that this block isn't very constructed playable in the speculation forums as it is Limited.
Amulet of Vigor
CMC = 1
Artifact Rarity - Rare
Whenever a permanent enters the battlefield tapped and under your control, untap it. Gets better with multiples see
Quote from: CorwinB on January 21, 2010, 11:03:37 AM from http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=39690.0
Actually, having multiples of this is great. Due to the wording, if you have two in play and play an ETBT land, two triggers from the Amulet of Vigor go on the stack. You let the first one resolve (land is untapped), then you tap the land for mana, after which you let the second trigger resolve, resulting in one free mana.
There is a nice infinite landfall combo in Standard, and Amulet of Vigor improves it :
- Ruin Ghost (blinks a land for W+self-tap)
- Tideforce Elemental (twiddle a creature for U+self-tap, untaps for landfall)
- Lotus Cobra
Basically you use the Ruin Ghost to blink a Plains or an Island. While the "blink land" is on the stack, you use Tideforce Elemental to untap the Ruin Ghost. When the land returns to play, the Elemental untaps, and the Cobra gives you one mana (either W or U depending on the land you need). So you get a free landfall trigger for whatever you need it, which in Zendikar/WWK can get out of hand very quickly with either Steppe Lynx, Rampaging Baloth, Grazing Gladeheart...
Amulet of Vigor improves the combo by allowing you to play with an ETBT land. So you can use a Refuge land or Kabira Crossroads (and gain infinite life in the process), a multicolor land (making the combo go off easier)...
And two amulets replace the fragile cobra in this combo.
That combo is not Vintage-level, of course, but pretty fun for standard.
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For some reason I keep on thinking that Bazaar of Baghdad has some sort of infinite combo coming out soon, maybe I know that there are cards to do it just they aren't floating high up enough to make out.
Well I thought about {ǁʼà-be ǃù.m ʘàa a time ninja}, so two or more of this amulet + Ruin Ghost + Tideforce Elemental + x2 (would be best I think of) Lotus Cobra + Root Maze = infinite Bazaar of Baghdad activations. OR Intruder Alarm + plains (white mana source) + living Plane + {{]{Bazaar of Baghdad}[}}Not saying this would be competitive quality for Vintage but throwing it out there
Don't think it's a major card. But, I think it might be worth getting for it's unique effect and very low cmc. Plus it's not a mythic rare :P.
P.S. surpised this card hasn't been brought up yet on Vintage forums here, maybe by the time I post this it will be up
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There are so many uses for this card its bonkers!!! One thing that helps this card a lot is Seedborn Muse, cards with "lose the game" he hehehhhe, Phage doesn't work though, would have to do something to the effect of Endless Whispers. Then Sleeper Agent combined with blink effects to protect it, and this guy to give it back.
Other than that you could give your opponent creatures with drawbacks. Or mess around when playing against Oath of Druids decks giving them back those pesky 1/1 tokens they give you from Forbidden Orchard. Nevinyrral's Disk would be funny to give them especially while your a massing your own army of creatures....post-wiped board Biorhythm good game we both win
What would happen if someone casts a Lightning Bolt at my Bazaar Trader and I would tap it to trade it to myself? Would the Lightning Bolt still hit my Bazaar Trader?
Can anyone give rules text to support permanently keeping stolen creatures?
I really don't think you permanently gain control of a creature you have Threatened. I think Threaten sets up a delayed trigger to return it to the person that owned it when Threaten resolved. Bazaar Trader would only prevent this from happening if a "base owner" attribute can be replaced and if Threaten looks at that value when returning.
Roil Elemental has a better chance of working in my opinion but I'm still not sure it works. Targeting yourself and calling yourself the owner of a permanent doesn't necessary replace the "Taken by Roil Elemental" attribute. Now that being said if Bazaar Trader does replace the "base owner" attribute it could work.
Still it is a very interesting card.
I really wish it worked with enchantments, the first thing that came to mind for me was Blood Funnel
Bazaar Trader
Creature - Goblin
: Target player gains control of target artifact, creature or land that you control.
Illus. Matt Cavotta #72/145 1/1
No cards that I know of grant ownership, the only ones breaking this rule would be the ante cards. Ownership then would only change depending on who one or lose, and nothing would happen but...an infinite loop of swapping back and forth the ante cards in case of a tie of course.
Remember this card can only target artifacts, creatures, or lands that you control so can't target a card that your opponent currently controls. Declaring yourself as the player to gain control of the targeted artifact, creature or land that you control would result in that you're the boss. So in other terms nothing would or should happen that I can think of to the state of the game post resolution of the ability in that context, other than that permanent being tapped.
I like Vintage, then Legacy or Elder Dragon Highlander, Cube, 40 card minimum decks, Pauper, casual
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
For a general how about
Name: C WHatEvER
Legendary Creature -
When C enters the battlefield or leaves the battlefield you may siwtch the cards in your graveyard with the cards in your library (This effect is permanent.) Whenever a card is exiled put a 2/1 colorless scavenger creature token onto the battlefield with "Intimidate, when this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability flip a coin. If heads sacrifice it, tails exile it."
P/T : whatever/whatever Ring,..Ring,...Ringaga.......HELLLOO!
Mana cost could be whatever, a very crazy effect would be nice to have on a legendary. Would be funny to have
Legendary Land Creature - TIIiIeIMMY!? -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Terry, Lord of Tutors
2GUR
Intimidate
Landfall: Search your library for a nonland card and put that card into your hand.
3/5
Good work I approve, especially with Fastbond + Gush and other fun stuff.
I like Vintage, then Legacy or Elder Dragon Highlander, Cube, 40 card minimum decks, Pauper, casual
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Again I think this is more of a Legacy deck, but wanted to bring up some cards that ǁʼà-be ǃù.m ʘàa has suggested - they are many powerful and important card but your deck needs to be built differently from 43 lands legacy build then.
Here are two related threads, that you might find interesting that discuss Land type decks in vintage.
and a more classic land style deck using either black for disruptive discard or blue for protective counters
I was kind of nearing Vintage with the link full of lands to take, out just I left it up in the air as to what I think should be put in. Instead I just list some good cards for each color, depending on where the deck goes. Consilidation in deck creation is the enemy for me, possible synergies are easy for me. http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=195911
The second deck may be the direction you take your deck, but in the end I think it's just not competitive enough to deal with such classic plays as Tezzeret and Time Vault.
Well second time typing got doubles of the same error. I was leaning on making it more Vintage, by taking out lands that would have the least effect. For colors I just list some of the ones that good in general, leaving the color scheme up in the air. Consolidation, is rawwghhh, synergies is uh oh.
I like some of the cards in WWK, for Vintage another card that seems interesting to me anyhow is that one.
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What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
cheddercaveman, yeah I like powerful non-combat abilities, though Rafiq is moderately interesting to me because he can benefit other creatures. But that's not it totally, for instance, I just saw the new legend previewed on the wizards site (the black one), and that's a snooze for me. It's just too linear.
I guess I should rephrase my original post. What I want is something powerful, but also something that doesn't inspire a totally spoon-fed strategy.
ǁʼà-be ǃù.m ʘàa: yeah, some of those are interesting. Particularly Frankie Peanuts.
It's interesting you mention a land deck, because I've been contemplating building a land deck with Genju of the Realm as the general for a while. I know it's not technically legal, but hey, it seems like it'd be a cool idea to me. I dunno, I think if nothing good comes from WWK, I might build him.
So far I like the two legendary creatures spoiled from WWK, Not sure why I like the black vampire legend but I do for some reason. Also the 6/6 demon that costs 2BB with that draw back...I'm getting a playset of >_> probably going to go the release and prerelease now XD. Same thing for 13/13 for B Such much fun!
I'd help with making a land heavy deck in any format that doesn't have one really, I love looking at all the cards in the gathereer
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What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
I think that they're would be at least 1 card with the word "shuffle" and then have you shuffle your oversized 20 card stack, other than that this looks like it can be really fun. Sort of reminds me of the game where there was one person sitting behind a notebook/book and he would be the enemy the big powerful sorcerrer. Everyone would try to defeat him, but he'd choose how things would go along till then for the most part anyway.
I have a feeling there will be another multiplayer week on magic's sit comming up around the release date for this. Also I have feeling that they may include house rules from their playtesting that you can try out. Maybe they'll surpise us and suddenly decide to also throw in 40 card normal and snow land packs for each color
Two-head Giant + whatever format, Vintage, Casual, Star, EDH, and or Planechase combined with this seem fun too!
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As for W/B
and perhaps a few cheap zombies
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
Esperzoa could be fun to
The kite skite of spells could be nice for some hate, even if it hides in the sideboard.
Bouncing
Rushing River Chain of Vapor other bouncing options
Other
Pithing Needle/Phyrexian Revoker/Squelch/Phyrexian Metamorph jinggling merits to the three at various numbers and such.
Here is an old article for Vintage, a blu stax build though, for more ideas, and...ah yadadada
http://www.starcitygames.com/magic/vintage/16568_So_Many_Insane_Plays_Crazy_Stax.html
Green and or red could be worthy and splashable if you want to do so
Green
0x Ancient Stirrings
0x Nature's Claim
0x Quirion Ranger
0x Scryb Ranger
Red
0x Goblin Welder
0x Pyroblast
0x Red Elemental Blast
0x Precursor Golem
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
+2-4 Tangle Wire
+3-4 Goblin Welder
+4 Null Rod
+3-4 Bazaar of Baghdad
X Mountains
maybe Uba Mask
maybe some Inkmoth Nexus
maybe Mental Mistep and or Surgical Extraction
maybe more Crucible of Worlds
thus less
-2 Ichorclaw Myr
-2 Necropede
-2 Smokestack
-4 Plague Myr
As to why, well I think having Plague Myr doesn't help all that much first off he has the same power as both Necropede and Ichorclaw Myr unblocked. Secondly tapping for one mana isn't terribly that much, there are other cards for greater, if needed mana acceleration. Without Plague Myr Null Rod wouldn't hinder any of your cards, perhaps a mix of one of the two; two being Chalice of the Void.
Both Ichorclaw Myr and Necropede can give your opponent one poison counter they both have abilities that can suppress creatures. I might up the necropede count if there were a large percentage of creature based strategies in the meta I participate in, especially if those creatures were Dark Confidant or other utility creatures. Ichorclaw Myr is more cumbersome to a Tarmogoyf, or other big creatures if they happen to be present.
Smokestack while useful, takes longer to shine in a match, than say Tangle Wire would.
Bazaar of Baghdad and Goblin Welder are like the duo of Robot Unicorns prancing, and dieing a fiery death as the awesome song Always by Erasure plays simultaneously. I especially think Goblin Welder is good, for you have increased shenanigians utilizing Necropedes and Corpse Cur with the Welder. On the same token you may encounter increased hate via graveyard hate.
Inkmoth Nexus could be become pretty crazy with a well timed Crucible of Worlds, great for (slowly) killing (big) creatures if any and the evasion is nice.
Uba Mask hurts most decks, can create a lock if circumstances are right. Plus Goblin Welder likes to play with this thing.
Then playing around with Mental Mistep could be interesting although it would be 2 life per cast. Surgical Extraction may be more than a dead duck in some metas in games 1-3.
I don't play Vintage, yet I like the deck and metagame conceptual faces of the format. Good luck I hope this helps.
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
By the by here is my picture of the card in Phyrexian with lots of lines that could make sense to others... http://cubeupload.com/im/3PePEF.jpg You may need to zoom in to see the lines. The code for writing the Phyrexian script confuses me some and not entirely, inasmuch as I decided to post this image so if I managed to find anything new it could be somewhat clearly understood.
P.S. If the screeching whisper's ideas don't make sense don't worry, it is just an idea I got from trying to understand A !Xóõ Dictionary by Anthony Traill.
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
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Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
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I don't know much about linguistics, however any thoughts as to how far of an extent this language is in being an inflexive, word order, and or other things language.
Oh...high quality zoomed in image(s) on the text of the card Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite in phyrexia, would be helpful.
Another idea, in German sometimes words would be seperated such as ("Sie sieht gut aus." "She looks good." Where aussehen as a verb is seperable.) Perhaps this language uses it too, just another thought.
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
Which list has Rofellos Banned, http://www.dragonhighlander.net/rules.php doesn't. Or were you talking about some website for EDH that had it banned but no longer?
Clockspinning also works in triggerng Divine Intervention, in asmuch as Vampire Hexmage, Æther Snap Oh you could use Angel's Grace Platinum Angel to create a different sort of win from a tie :rofl:literally too
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
But Zo-Zu is legendary, and land totals are ~ 1/4 of a deck so it could go either way. If anyone plays a fetchland 2 damage and then if they crack it -1 life and land into play another 2 damage, totaling 5 less life. He's a legendary Time of Need (can tutor for him not saying to use it just throwing it out there)then you can also hit for 2 or block. 10 turn clock if no wins the game or stops Zo-Zu, not that great. but if you get it early enough it could be a pain with an opponent with an active dark confidant and or low on man due to null rod wasted lands striped lands etc.
Would be interesting to see someone use it efficently, one day perhaps.
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
The power and toughness is a maybe would be fine i edh I think since you have so much life, but if it were to be printed idk maybe it could stay like that...or they might add when Ronen Axehammer attacks it gets -1/-0 until end of turn. Makes the card a lot less fast.
I agree more than one tri color generals paired with its enemy colors WBR, URG, RWU, GUB, and BGW. Plus each of these combinations has ~ 2 cards total! Fungal Shambler is good too bad he isn't legendary
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
For the first card maybe change the abilities you have listed to keyworded abilties. That way over time this thing could vary greater. Also you forgot to add: write in flavor text
Fashionista cmc is about right not higher I think, but perhaps you could add "At the beginning of your draw step you may set aside the top three cards of your library and shuffle them, roll a die on a result of 1-2 exile 1 of those cards, on the result of 3-4 exile two of those cards, on the result of 5-6 exile all three of the cards." Or "At the beginning of your upkeep exile the top card of your library and the bottom card of your library."
Enflamed Bannana 1GGR
creatue - Bannana [looks angry]
At the beginning of each player's untap step, that player gains a temptation counter, unless that player says "mmhm I can't resist...ahhhhh my tongue!" During each upkeep remove all counters created by Enflamed Bannana, Enflamed Bannana deals 1 dammage to that player for each counter he or she controlled removed this way.
Look at it...I just got to...OW...oh mmm so good
4/3
I know it involves memory but thats the funny part to me
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
Amulet of Vigor
CMC = 1
Artifact Rarity - Rare
Whenever a permanent enters the battlefield tapped and under your control, untap it. Gets better with multiples see
Quote from: CorwinB on January 21, 2010, 11:03:37 AM from http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=39690.0
Actually, having multiples of this is great. Due to the wording, if you have two in play and play an ETBT land, two triggers from the Amulet of Vigor go on the stack. You let the first one resolve (land is untapped), then you tap the land for mana, after which you let the second trigger resolve, resulting in one free mana.
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Rootmaze has been suggested to us with this other than that, lands producing more than one solidtary mana such as Ancient Tomb (a couple of cards like this) if Rootmaze is out combo!, Crypt of Agadeem, Tectonic Edge lesser Wasteland, Dimir Aqueduct, Thawing Glaciers, Terrain Generator, and Scorched Ruins.
Also probably not too feasable for competitive Vintage, but
CorwinB January 21, 2010, 11:19:41 AM » from http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=39690.0
There is a nice infinite landfall combo in Standard, and Amulet of Vigor improves it :
- Ruin Ghost (blinks a land for W+self-tap)
- Tideforce Elemental (twiddle a creature for U+self-tap, untaps for landfall)
- Lotus Cobra
Basically you use the Ruin Ghost to blink a Plains or an Island. While the "blink land" is on the stack, you use Tideforce Elemental to untap the Ruin Ghost. When the land returns to play, the Elemental untaps, and the Cobra gives you one mana (either W or U depending on the land you need). So you get a free landfall trigger for whatever you need it, which in Zendikar/WWK can get out of hand very quickly with either Steppe Lynx, Rampaging Baloth, Grazing Gladeheart...
Amulet of Vigor improves the combo by allowing you to play with an ETBT land. So you can use a Refuge land or Kabira Crossroads (and gain infinite life in the process), a multicolor land (making the combo go off easier)...
And two amulets replace the fragile cobra in this combo.
That combo is not Vintage-level, of course, but pretty fun for standard.
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For some reason I keep on thinking that Bazaar of Baghdad has some sort of infinite combo coming out soon, maybe I know that there are cards to do it just they aren't floating high up enough to make out.
Well I thought about {ǁʼà-be ǃù.m ʘàa a time ninja}, so two or more of this amulet + Ruin Ghost + Tideforce Elemental + x2 (would be best I think of) Lotus Cobra + Root Maze = infinite Bazaar of Baghdad activations. OR Intruder Alarm + plains (white mana source) + living Plane + {{]{Bazaar of Baghdad}[}} Not saying this would be competitive quality for Vintage but throwing it out there
Don't think it's a major card. But, I think it might be worth getting for it's unique effect and very low cmc. Plus it's not a mythic rare :P.
P.S. surpised this card hasn't been brought up yet on Vintage forums here, maybe by the time I post this it will be up
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
There are so many uses for this card its bonkers!!! One thing that helps this card a lot is Seedborn Muse, cards with "lose the game" he hehehhhe, Phage doesn't work though, would have to do something to the effect of Endless Whispers. Then Sleeper Agent combined with blink effects to protect it, and this guy to give it back.
Other than that you could give your opponent creatures with drawbacks. Or mess around when playing against Oath of Druids decks giving them back those pesky 1/1 tokens they give you from Forbidden Orchard. Nevinyrral's Disk would be funny to give them especially while your a massing your own army of creatures....post-wiped board Biorhythm good game we both win
THE Ultimate Psychic Suggestion CARD!!!!
Yes it would, showing him who's boss!
Bazaar Trader
Creature - Goblin
: Target player gains control of target artifact, creature or land that you control.
Illus. Matt Cavotta #72/145 1/1
No cards that I know of grant ownership, the only ones breaking this rule would be the ante cards. Ownership then would only change depending on who one or lose, and nothing would happen but...an infinite loop of swapping back and forth the ante cards in case of a tie of course.
Remember this card can only target artifacts, creatures, or lands that you control so can't target a card that your opponent currently controls. Declaring yourself as the player to gain control of the targeted artifact, creature or land that you control would result in that you're the boss. So in other terms nothing would or should happen that I can think of to the state of the game post resolution of the ability in that context, other than that permanent being tapped.
You could use it with Puca's Mischief to create a soft safety net. Riding the Dilu Horse and Donate are similiar to this. For it doesn't end until the permanet returns to the battlefield i.e. a blink effect or leaves the battlefield (Unearth got a cool tweak in design :P, was shown somewhere else on the magic website about rulings don't remember where. I think if remember right some of the reasoning the mentioned was that it was something so infrequent and would make both Johnnies and Timmies happier), or it's controller is changed by another spell or ability.
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
Name: C WHatEvER
Legendary Creature -
When C enters the battlefield or leaves the battlefield you may siwtch the cards in your graveyard with the cards in your library (This effect is permanent.) Whenever a card is exiled put a 2/1 colorless scavenger creature token onto the battlefield with "Intimidate, when this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability flip a coin. If heads sacrifice it, tails exile it."
P/T : whatever/whatever
Ring,..Ring,...Ringaga.......HELLLOO!
Mana cost could be whatever, a very crazy effect would be nice to have on a legendary. Would be funny to have
Legendary Land Creature - TIIiIeIMMY!?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Terry, Lord of Tutors
2GUR
Intimidate
Landfall: Search your library for a nonland card and put that card into your hand.
3/5
Good work I approve, especially with Fastbond + Gush and other fun stuff.
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
Well second time typing got doubles of the same error. I was leaning on making it more Vintage, by taking out lands that would have the least effect. For colors I just list some of the ones that good in general, leaving the color scheme up in the air. Consolidation, is rawwghhh, synergies is uh oh.
I like some of the cards in WWK, for Vintage another card that seems interesting to me anyhow is that one.
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
So far I like the two legendary creatures spoiled from WWK, Not sure why I like the black vampire legend but I do for some reason. Also the 6/6 demon that costs 2BB with that draw back...I'm getting a playset of >_> probably going to go the release and prerelease now XD. Same thing for 13/13 for B Such much fun!
I'd help with making a land heavy deck in any format that doesn't have one really, I love looking at all the cards in the gathereer
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad
I have a feeling there will be another multiplayer week on magic's sit comming up around the release date for this. Also I have feeling that they may include house rules from their playtesting that you can try out. Maybe they'll surpise us and suddenly decide to also throw in 40 card normal and snow land packs for each color
Two-head Giant + whatever format, Vintage, Casual, Star, EDH, and or Planechase combined with this seem fun too!
What about instead of having the ante cards banned the word "ante" would become a reminder thing like "Domain-" meaning: "Exile the top card of your library face down. Your opponent may play this card as though it had flash and without paying it's mana cost." It kind of keeps the spirit.
Dexterity Ha! that's why we have machines wAtTerRMElon and this egg thing.
Vintage: Unban Shahrazad