No one can deny the amount of resources, video content, live streams and general magic articles we have. The information is swirling getting to everyone faster than ever before. It is a great time for magic with the now fantastic pro tour coverage i feel as though Wizards is moving in the right direction with this
However There was always something wonderful about getting my weekly does of The Magic show and Planes walking with the Proffessors
Sure the information is usually a couple days behind for those of us that stalk the forums every minute of our down time.
There was something very enjoyable about the old style of the magic show and where images and text would fly at us to make the commentary flow perfectly and much smoother than any podcast could dream.
Im just trying to call out to the magic community that im sure the fanbase for a weekly magic news show is out there and i will absolutely watch anyones show on a weekly basis there has to be someone out there willing to do this we used to have two people and sadly we have had none as of recently
Im not saying i dont love things like the occasionaly video Gerry T and AJ sacher put out
or even Magic TV they just sadly are not the same
If anyone agrees with me PLZ keep this thread alive
I know this is poorly written just a rant and just what i think but why not see if people agree.
TLDR: I really hope someone is willing to bring back the styling of a show like the old magic show or planes walking with the proffessors. I loved these shows when they were being made and im sure im not alone
Keep the buz going on this topic maybe someone willing will be able to bring this style news show back.
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Also KMan, why would you take out flame slash and phoenix against caw? they will almost certainly have spellskites, and possibly bring in more, and white hero is seeing more play. Phoenix is just amazing at making the opponents removal that much less effective, and gives you a creature everytime you cast a burn spell.
When I play against aggro decks I will take out GG also, since shrine will deal equivalent to at least 3 burn spells most likely.
Also, take a look at past lists of caw blade for big events, along with the caw blade deck forums. I am sure there are people asking the same questions as you are Spellskite is too good against the field for them not to run it. It hurts Splinter Twin a lot, as they have to get rid of your SS b4 they can cast it.
I guess my issue with caw blade is that i am going to be expecting everyone to be playing Gerry T's list from the most recent star city event which did not run any Spellskites and it played emeria angel
and post board against a white deck Phoenix tends to be bad
also the agro MU I've probably just been a luck sac and my opponenets never get helped out by my goblin guides
*Side note*funny story i was playing caw blade pre ban and my gg gave him a land turn 1 and he discarded devine offering i preceded to play shrine turn 2 and win the game* just thinking about GG sorry it really has no relevance
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^ This.
Honestly, I'm feeling that many of the people that got overhyped by the GL reprint are the very same that now are dissmissing him harder.
Back on the red hate, I'd like to point out a couple things:
- KFW is the easier hate to answer, and also the narrow one. Dismember, Shrine are usually MD material, along with Ratchet Bombs and Kargan/Phoenix in SB. Either way, you can race it, ignore it or kill it.
- Timely Reinforcement is a pain, but it's not game over. Hero/Arc Trail or even Forked Bolt can be good anser to it.
- Once more, I've found the drege analogy to be quite effective. On my nats, I've lost games in 2 ways: either for multiple hate (puresteel player drawing 3x TR AND 1 CP AND 1 Spellskite), or for playing a worse card in my SB (Slagstorm over Ratchet Bomb). That said, Red Deck can be hated out easily on multiple hate. But giving the lack of results it posted, I'm starting to think there won't be situation with 7 slots of red hate in many sb. Not considering that our SB options are kinda deep too..
I agree with both of you here on all accounts
having never played lagacy before i just knew that GL was played so i figured he would be ridiculous and turns out hes just really good
sure its a let down but he's still better than the other slew of creatures we could play in his place
also in terms of the hate all decks need to see multiples to beat us
as long as you pack ur SB properly for your metta you should have no problem taking down each round! =]
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So a couple general things to answer your all of your questions from what ive seen from testing (just to note havent been able to test this style list for very long obvisously just seeing power duobles list like this weekend)
So to start maybe i am just stubborn in the agro MU but even though i shift into the "control" role GG has always been a house for me when played correctly never attacking when ur opponent has mana open for removal he very commonly even just sits back as a blocker that is willing to trade with any of their guys or something like vamps if they gatekeeper i dont want to sacrifice my Chandra's Phoenix or Ember hauler
It is very possible that this is just terrible but it had worked out for me
im not sure what i would put back in because especially in the mirror leaving in grim lavamancer seems bad because it opens up arc trail as a 2 for 1 and that can never be good for me
Ok so caw blade
SB has to change for the specifics of their list and what i see
starting with the more conroling version
i would not bring in manic vandal here (unless i see Spellskite) it will most likely be dead because i will have a shrine and they only run 2 swords (that im aware of)
Also Flame slash will stay in if i know they are running Spellskite
I really love searing blaze and arc trail here even against their lower creature count maybe its greedy but arc trail getting 2 tokens and hitting for 3 to the dome off blaze while also killing a creature feels extreemly good (this is probably extreemly greedy but searing blaze is the next card to come out if i see spellskite for flame slash and vandal in some numbers)
The hero blade version if it is playing splicer then i will bring in manic vandal most likely because the token extreemly hinders our game plan even though most people will not be playing this version
Also here flame slash will come in because it is another out to hero
My problem is that in this MU you do not know their SB other than that they will have most likely 4 timely Rienforcements post board the rest is a crap shoot.
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I am running a similar list to you and i just posted my Sb plans in my thread PTQ this weekend
i didnt explain things very well but maybe you could see something from that and if u disagree or agree for my list post there and if you post here concerning your list i would be happy to put my 2 cents in on some decisions you have made
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I like this configuration and in MU where Hero is not very good you can board him out along with a mountain to streamline the list like what Power double orrigionally had just short one Ember Hauler
Here also is how i would sideboard with this 75
please leave advice and any possible changes you would make to the list
Mirror/gobos
in
2 vulshok refugee
1 chandra's phoenix
1 arc trail
2 dismember
out
1 mountain
1 flame slash
2 hero of oxida ridge
2 grim lacamancer
think about leaving in hero as a 4 damage
4 costed spell in mirror only
Caw blade
in
2 dismember
1 arc trail
out
1 flame slash
2 chandras phoenix
Valakut
in
3 AoA
2 Dismember
1 Flame Slash
1 Chandra's Phoenix
out (pick shrine or searing blaze)
4 shrine of burning rage
4 Searing blaze(if not playing Simolcrom/lotus cobra/Oracle of muldaya)
3 Arc Trail
Twin (classic hate package)
in
3 AoA
2 Combust
2 Dismember
out
3 Arc trail
4 searing blaze
very flexible in what to take out
would not reccomend taking anything else instant speed out
If you take hero out leave the land in because u want
to be able to cast multiple answers in one turn
watch out for mutagenic growth!!!!
Pyromancers
In
2 Dismember (alot will SB into Twin combo)
2 vulshok refugee
1 Chandra's Phoenix
out
1 flame slash
4 searing blaze
Tempered Steel (bleh so many decisions)
In
3 Manic Vandal
2 Dismember
1 chandra's Phoenix
1 arc trail
1 flame slash
out
4 Shrine of Burning rage
2 Hero of Oxida Ridge
1 mountain
1 ?
possibly dont want a full set of dismembers
because you can die very quickly
UB control (never know how i feel about this MU
even though it should be easy atleast thats what i hear)
In
Possibly want Manic vandals local players were boarding
Batterskulls in their vamps deck for the agro MU
In
2 vulshok refugee?
2 dismember?
1 chandra's Phoenix
1 arc trail
Out
1 mountain?
2 hero of oxida ridge?
1 flame slash
Please please please give me some critiques what would you do
If there are any MU i missed please feel free to add how you would sb in those MU also
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With this configureation would you still keep one flame slash in the board so that you can move up to 6 1cc spells to take out walls in the kut MU and possible against decks with spellskite?
or does having the 2 heros make it feel like you wouldn't need to dedicate as many slots as in the past
i would also assume that the 4th arc trail should go in the board for the agro matchup
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I like it but im def looking for someone to have some news style episodes but this is def better than nothing
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No one can deny the amount of resources, video content, live streams and general magic articles we have. The information is swirling getting to everyone faster than ever before. It is a great time for magic with the now fantastic pro tour coverage i feel as though Wizards is moving in the right direction with this
However There was always something wonderful about getting my weekly does of The Magic show and Planes walking with the Proffessors
Sure the information is usually a couple days behind for those of us that stalk the forums every minute of our down time.
There was something very enjoyable about the old style of the magic show and where images and text would fly at us to make the commentary flow perfectly and much smoother than any podcast could dream.
Im just trying to call out to the magic community that im sure the fanbase for a weekly magic news show is out there and i will absolutely watch anyones show on a weekly basis there has to be someone out there willing to do this we used to have two people and sadly we have had none as of recently
Im not saying i dont love things like the occasionaly video Gerry T and AJ sacher put out
or even Magic TV they just sadly are not the same
If anyone agrees with me PLZ keep this thread alive
I know this is poorly written just a rant and just what i think but why not see if people agree.
TLDR: I really hope someone is willing to bring back the styling of a show like the old magic show or planes walking with the proffessors. I loved these shows when they were being made and im sure im not alone
Keep the buz going on this topic maybe someone willing will be able to bring this style news show back.
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in any Red or Red/x list which card would you rather have in the affinity match up and is it worth playing either of them?
Shattering Spree
Smash to Smithereens
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barren glory begs to differ =]
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I guess my issue with caw blade is that i am going to be expecting everyone to be playing Gerry T's list from the most recent star city event which did not run any Spellskites and it played emeria angel
and post board against a white deck Phoenix tends to be bad
also the agro MU I've probably just been a luck sac and my opponenets never get helped out by my goblin guides
*Side note*funny story i was playing caw blade pre ban and my gg gave him a land turn 1 and he discarded devine offering i preceded to play shrine turn 2 and win the game* just thinking about GG sorry it really has no relevance
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I agree with both of you here on all accounts
having never played lagacy before i just knew that GL was played so i figured he would be ridiculous and turns out hes just really good
sure its a let down but he's still better than the other slew of creatures we could play in his place
also in terms of the hate all decks need to see multiples to beat us
as long as you pack ur SB properly for your metta you should have no problem taking down each round! =]
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So to start maybe i am just stubborn in the agro MU but even though i shift into the "control" role GG has always been a house for me when played correctly never attacking when ur opponent has mana open for removal he very commonly even just sits back as a blocker that is willing to trade with any of their guys or something like vamps if they gatekeeper i dont want to sacrifice my Chandra's Phoenix or Ember hauler
It is very possible that this is just terrible but it had worked out for me
im not sure what i would put back in because especially in the mirror leaving in grim lavamancer seems bad because it opens up arc trail as a 2 for 1 and that can never be good for me
Ok so caw blade
SB has to change for the specifics of their list and what i see
starting with the more conroling version
i would not bring in manic vandal here (unless i see Spellskite) it will most likely be dead because i will have a shrine and they only run 2 swords (that im aware of)
Also Flame slash will stay in if i know they are running Spellskite
I really love searing blaze and arc trail here even against their lower creature count maybe its greedy but arc trail getting 2 tokens and hitting for 3 to the dome off blaze while also killing a creature feels extreemly good (this is probably extreemly greedy but searing blaze is the next card to come out if i see spellskite for flame slash and vandal in some numbers)
The hero blade version if it is playing splicer then i will bring in manic vandal most likely because the token extreemly hinders our game plan even though most people will not be playing this version
Also here flame slash will come in because it is another out to hero
My problem is that in this MU you do not know their SB other than that they will have most likely 4 timely Rienforcements post board the rest is a crap shoot.
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i didnt explain things very well but maybe you could see something from that and if u disagree or agree for my list post there and if you post here concerning your list i would be happy to put my 2 cents in on some decisions you have made
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4 Scalding Tarn
4 Teetering Peaks
11 Mountain
4 Goblin Guide
4 Grim Lavamancer
3 Ember Hauler
2 Chandra's Phoenix
2 Hero of Oxid Ridge
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Staggershock
4 Searing Blaze
3 Arc Trail
2 Dismember
1 Flame Slash
3 Act of Aggression
3 Manic Vandal
2 Dismember
2 Combust
2 vulshok refugee
1 Chandra's Phoenix
1 Arc Trail
1 Flame Slash
Here also is how i would sideboard with this 75
please leave advice and any possible changes you would make to the list
Mirror/gobos
in
2 vulshok refugee
1 chandra's phoenix
1 arc trail
2 dismember
out
1 mountain
1 flame slash
2 hero of oxida ridge
2 grim lacamancer
think about leaving in hero as a 4 damage
4 costed spell in mirror only
Caw blade
in
2 dismember
1 arc trail
out
1 flame slash
2 chandras phoenix
Valakut
in
3 AoA
2 Dismember
1 Flame Slash
1 Chandra's Phoenix
out (pick shrine or searing blaze)
4 shrine of burning rage
4 Searing blaze(if not playing Simolcrom/lotus cobra/Oracle of muldaya)
3 Arc Trail
Twin (classic hate package)
in
3 AoA
2 Combust
2 Dismember
out
3 Arc trail
4 searing blaze
very flexible in what to take out
would not reccomend taking anything else instant speed out
If you take hero out leave the land in because u want
to be able to cast multiple answers in one turn
watch out for mutagenic growth!!!!
Pyromancers
In
2 Dismember (alot will SB into Twin combo)
2 vulshok refugee
1 Chandra's Phoenix
out
1 flame slash
4 searing blaze
Tempered Steel (bleh so many decisions)
In
3 Manic Vandal
2 Dismember
1 chandra's Phoenix
1 arc trail
1 flame slash
out
4 Shrine of Burning rage
2 Hero of Oxida Ridge
1 mountain
1 ?
possibly dont want a full set of dismembers
because you can die very quickly
UB control (never know how i feel about this MU
even though it should be easy atleast thats what i hear)
In
3 AoA
2 Dismember
1 Chandra's Phoenix
1 flame slash
Out
4 Searing blaze
3 Arc trail
Vampires (need help here dont know what i want)
Possibly want Manic vandals local players were boarding
Batterskulls in their vamps deck for the agro MU
In
2 vulshok refugee?
2 dismember?
1 chandra's Phoenix
1 arc trail
Out
1 mountain?
2 hero of oxida ridge?
1 flame slash
Please please please give me some critiques what would you do
If there are any MU i missed please feel free to add how you would sb in those MU also
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thanks
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at what point have you shuffled enough and what do i do if i see my opponent has not propperly shuffled?
It seems as though it is my word against his and a judge cannot give a game loss for that unless they happen to be watching while this occurs.
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what version of caw were you playing against
the hero blade version or the more control version like Gerry T's SCGO winning list?
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or does having the 2 heros make it feel like you wouldn't need to dedicate as many slots as in the past
i would also assume that the 4th arc trail should go in the board for the agro matchup
leaving you with a SB something like
3 Act of Aggression
3 Manic Vandal
2 Dismember
2 Combust
2 vulshok refugee
1 Chandra's Phoenix
1 Arc Trail
1 Flame Slash
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