If I'm running 2 Flayer, 2 JVP, 1 Tasigur, 1 Liliana of the Last Hope, and 2-3 Azcanta, should I at least be considering Thought Scour in some capacity?
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1. Flayer and Spellbomb package. Lifted from the Abzan lists before the unban. There is enough graveyard use out there that Spellbomb never feels dead in the main (Storm, Dredge, Snaps, Reveler, Delve). The synergy between Flayer, Azcanta, and Goyf feels really good. Goyf gets pretty big rather quickly. It's also nice using Flayer to wipe away Brainstorm chaff.
2. Azcanta over Serum Visions. It took me a while to get on board with this but I haven't looked back since. It's almost the perfect Bob replacement. We don't have the speed of red to close out games to mitigate the damage Bob gives.
3. Hero's Downfall is my flex spot. I've also had Murderous Cut, Go For The Throat, Collective Brutality, and an additional Thoughtseize in this spot.
4. I don't have any filter lands, hence the 3rd Blooming Marsh. Would I be better off with a Woodland Cemetary/Drowned Catacomb?
Not sure if it'll be the best shell but I've been having fun with BUG. I play a list very similar to Reid's Abzan with Jace, Snap, Azcanta, and permission in the side.
Sigrist has an article out on CFB discussing his journey with Jace last week playing a variety of decks. It just solidifies what we've been saying, that Jace will be best suited in a deck with hand disruption over permission.
Interested to see how GFabs tweaks his build.
The lists Hoogland and Davis (neither are their own creations) have streamed looked clunky and lacking refinement.
@BK-V I tried to watch the Hoogland stream this morning, and then I was reminded why I don't watch him anymore. I agree with everything you said above, especially the part about Search for Azcanta. I cut Serum Visions entirely from my list as a result, and I don't think I'll be looking back anytime soon.
For those who haven't played Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, I encourage you to sleeve him up and give him a shot. I truly believe he works better in this shell than Snapcaster Mage a large majority of the time, since we're tapping out on our turn often.
22 lands my also seem a bit greedy in a shell without cantrips, but Search for Azcanta and Jace looting help us filter through the deck very quickly to find what we need.
I'm definitely going to try running 3x Azcanta without Serum. I'm running Flayer. I like the idea of being able to legend rule one into the yard to activate delirium. But even then, if you have a Sunken Ruin, you can still play Search because of the "may" clause.
I could never play Prodigy over Snap though. Even though we don't have nearly as many instants as other blue shells, I think it's invaluable to be able to Snap Decay a Blood Moon or Snap Push a creature with haste to protect your Jace.
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Between Jace, JVP, Flayer, Liliana, Azcanta, we have ways to move dead copies mid to late.
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MOCS lists are up. Corey cut down to a single Jace.
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Liliana: hold my beer
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Not too bad on a Tar Pit either.
I'm interested to see where Gfabs goes with Sultai.
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4x Polluted Delta
4x Verdant Catacombs
3x Blooming Marsh
2x Darkslick Shores
2x Creeping Tar Pit
2x Island
2x Swamp
1x Forest
1x Overgrown Tomb
1x Watery Grave
1x Breeding Pool
4x Tarmogoyf
2x Snapcaster Mage
2x Scavenging Ooze
2x Grim Flayer
1x Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Planeswalkers
3x Jace, The Mindsculptor
3x Liliana of the Veil
1x Liliana of the Last Hope
Instants
4x Fatal Push
2x Abrupt Decay
1x Hero's Downfall
3x Inquisition of Kozilek
2x Thoughtseize
2x Maelstrom Pulse
Artifacts
2x Nihil Spellbomb
Enchantments
3x Search for Azcanta
Sideboard is still being shaped and molded.
1. Flayer and Spellbomb package. Lifted from the Abzan lists before the unban. There is enough graveyard use out there that Spellbomb never feels dead in the main (Storm, Dredge, Snaps, Reveler, Delve). The synergy between Flayer, Azcanta, and Goyf feels really good. Goyf gets pretty big rather quickly. It's also nice using Flayer to wipe away Brainstorm chaff.
2. Azcanta over Serum Visions. It took me a while to get on board with this but I haven't looked back since. It's almost the perfect Bob replacement. We don't have the speed of red to close out games to mitigate the damage Bob gives.
3. Hero's Downfall is my flex spot. I've also had Murderous Cut, Go For The Throat, Collective Brutality, and an additional Thoughtseize in this spot.
4. I don't have any filter lands, hence the 3rd Blooming Marsh. Would I be better off with a Woodland Cemetary/Drowned Catacomb?
David Ochoa: "Mono-bacon!..."
Sigrist has an article out on CFB discussing his journey with Jace last week playing a variety of decks. It just solidifies what we've been saying, that Jace will be best suited in a deck with hand disruption over permission.
Interested to see how GFabs tweaks his build.
The lists Hoogland and Davis (neither are their own creations) have streamed looked clunky and lacking refinement.
David Ochoa: "Mono-bacon!..."
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I'm definitely going to try running 3x Azcanta without Serum. I'm running Flayer. I like the idea of being able to legend rule one into the yard to activate delirium. But even then, if you have a Sunken Ruin, you can still play Search because of the "may" clause.
I could never play Prodigy over Snap though. Even though we don't have nearly as many instants as other blue shells, I think it's invaluable to be able to Snap Decay a Blood Moon or Snap Push a creature with haste to protect your Jace.
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I think you're jumping through too many hoops. Slamming a Supreme Verdict seems better than having to stick a Jace and brainstorm for a miracle.
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