Event Date: Saturday October 4th 2014
Registration Opens: 12:00 PM
Tournament Starts: 1:00PM
Entry Fee: $10
Format: EDH 1v1
Deck Construction rules: mtgcommander.net banned list with the following "house rules":
Edric, Spymaster of Trest Banned as a general
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician Banned as a general
Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Banned as a general
Zur the Enchanter Banned as a general
Poison win condition errata'd to 15
Serra Ascendant errata'd to 50 life
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Format: 2HG EDH. Random partner, random opponents per round. 5 Rounds best of 3.
Date: July 26th 2014
Prizes: Based on Attendance (3 or more round wins gets you into the prize pool)
Entry Fee: $10
Location: Storytellers
214 Oriskany Boulevard
Suite 13 (Around back)
Whitesboro, NY 13492
Hey guys, was wondering what these would fetch, they are all NM foil Russian Ravnica.
Sacred Foundry
Doubling Season
Master Warcraft
Lightning Helix
Congregation at Dawn
Pretty sure nobody has touched on this yet, but there are very good reasons why Wizards prints limited print run things such as FTV, Commander's Arsenal and Modern Masters. Not only are they exciting, and cool, and add a few more cards to the supply, but their prime directive is to keep Wizard's supply chain healthy. Remember that these items are only available to brick stores, and not the huge online retailers. Wizards realizes that a vast majority of their player base goes to these small businesses. IMO it's a brilliant way to basically print those stores money, while providing something awesome for the players, and also making a nice profit. It's perfect for what they want to do.
Those who complain that Wizards doesn't send them a playset of every card they deem playable for some tiny amount of money are disillusioned. You'll understand this when you try and cash out your Magic collection. "Magic: the Stock Market" is a thing that you don't have to participate in, but how many of you don't use a price guide when trading? You're admitting that the cards are worth money, and want to retain their value through trading fairly. You aren't a speculator, just want to play, but at the end of the day you want to retain your value. The cards just aren't as special if they aren't worth anything. How many of you naysayers prefer foils over regular copies of cards? They're prettier, and more rare. That's why they're cool. At the end of the day, if you consider how much money the average player spends on Magic over the course of one year, getting Modern staples is just a matter of realigning your spending, or doing some trading for the things you need. Some of you talk like the cards just aren't available at all, and that simply isn't true. At worst, sell some things online (on here or MOTL), then buy what ya need. Now you can ship your Standard crap for Modern staples, and nobody bats an eye. Heck, you might even gain a bit of value along the way.
Why not add black for Nephilia Drownyard? Lets you put even more control cards, or the mill curse in place of your damage win cons. You can play Supremes without fear of wasting your own dudes.
Yeah sounds like they were more worried about it for Limited than they were in Rise. Considering you could have an 8/8 Annihilate 2 at common in Rise. This set, not so much.
I have to agree with you on some points. That Wizards spends too much time on EDH, but not because it draws away from competitive. I think that has stayed about the same. My problem is it completely destroyed casual. At least in my local area, nobody plays casual Magic because it's been replaced by EDH. Admittedly, I play EDH, but I'm really starting to hate it. The games are just grueling and boring for the most part, and often times feel like a waste of time after you play and play and play, and somebody happens to resolve like Omniscience and go all Vintage on you. What a waste of 90 minutes at that point.
Some of the examples though, I can't really relate to, and I'm led to believe that it's the people you're playing with that have caused the problem. At least with what you're saying about trading, that seems like some BS, I 100% agree with you there, but it's not an EDH trait, it's just an ******* trait, IMO.
At the end of the day though, so many people have latched onto EDH and that's all they play. Like I said, it has replaced casual. From a collector/seller stand point, I love it, because it brings tons of money. I'm sure random schwag in your binder has become valuable for no good reason, because of EDH. Apparently, you can't trade it favorably, but it has. Wizards recognized that they can make a lot of money, and make a lot more people happy by embracing EDH, and I believe it has helped set sales a bunch. When Liliana of the Dark Realms was spoiled, I'm sure you went... what a piece of crap, but about a million people went "Oh man that will go amazing in my xyz EDH deck." It helps you in a sense that it's keeping the game alive and flourishing.
But yeah, you're right, it's flippin' painful at times. You should try Hero Clix, it's super fun!
This is true in a sense but ultimately there is someone out there that will buy. I know that everyone is preparing in advance for Gatecrash but ultimately business boils down to profit and expansion and the greedier stores will focus on profit over our feelings or objections.
I do not like it but it is unfortunately true.
Honestly, I don't think greed is the right word. The getting is good right now, so stores are going to take it. There will be times that business is slow too. You know, like when they make Return to Kamigawa or something.
The prices of these pre-orders are higher than I have ever seen for new boxes. Considering that RTR was the most opened set of all time, at those prices, I don't think they're gouging at all. Obviously everybody is willing to pay that.
I don't think that's greedy, that's just good business.
They are not worried about our feelings or objections to them we are just numbers and cash.
This is arguable considering that if you're upset with the seller, you're not going to buy from them anymore. That hurts their numbers and their cash.
I was told also that the prices from distributors have increased. I would assume that is because distributors are paying attention, and not that WoTC has raised their prices. RTR and Gatecrash are the hotness, everybody knew it going in, including distributors.
First of all, the Rav duals, and RTR in general. While it's widely considered a great set so far, and everybody is buying the crap out of it (which means lots of money for WoTC of course), it floods the supply with Rav duals. Those will be staples for Modern for sure. Now everyone has easy access to them. They knew this set would sell like mad, and that's why they made it so good. Even with just the duals it would be awesome, but it seems like so many other rares are valuable too. I think this is how they will try to control prices from now on, because why not? Eternal players get cheap staples, everybody gets awesome sets, and WoTC gets lots of money. Everybody wins.
They threw Life from the Loam in the duel deck. This is kind of a small thing, but it helps offset the cost of something that's pretty playable in Modern. Again, something small, but it shows that they'll be willing to print something like that to give more people access to it.
The third point revolves around Deathrite Shaman and Rest in Peace. While these may or may not do the job, I believe they were put there to try and combat Goyf. Especially the Shaman. I think it's their biggest problem right now with the format, and they've shown that they wont ban it, or can't find a good reason to. A lot of money will be lost if they just cut him. Instead they're trying to give people reasons to think twice about playing him in Modern, maybe even in Legacy, but that seems like a side effect.
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Registration Opens: 12:00 PM
Tournament Starts: 1:00PM
Entry Fee: $10
Format: EDH 1v1
Deck Construction rules: mtgcommander.net banned list with the following "house rules":
Edric, Spymaster of Trest Banned as a general
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician Banned as a general
Oloro, Ageless Ascetic Banned as a general
Zur the Enchanter Banned as a general
Poison win condition errata'd to 15
Serra Ascendant errata'd to 50 life
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Date: July 26th 2014
Prizes: Based on Attendance (3 or more round wins gets you into the prize pool)
Entry Fee: $10
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214 Oriskany Boulevard
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Sacred Foundry
Doubling Season
Master Warcraft
Lightning Helix
Congregation at Dawn
Merged to foreign/oddities/etc thread -Uldan
Those who complain that Wizards doesn't send them a playset of every card they deem playable for some tiny amount of money are disillusioned. You'll understand this when you try and cash out your Magic collection. "Magic: the Stock Market" is a thing that you don't have to participate in, but how many of you don't use a price guide when trading? You're admitting that the cards are worth money, and want to retain their value through trading fairly. You aren't a speculator, just want to play, but at the end of the day you want to retain your value. The cards just aren't as special if they aren't worth anything. How many of you naysayers prefer foils over regular copies of cards? They're prettier, and more rare. That's why they're cool. At the end of the day, if you consider how much money the average player spends on Magic over the course of one year, getting Modern staples is just a matter of realigning your spending, or doing some trading for the things you need. Some of you talk like the cards just aren't available at all, and that simply isn't true. At worst, sell some things online (on here or MOTL), then buy what ya need. Now you can ship your Standard crap for Modern staples, and nobody bats an eye. Heck, you might even gain a bit of value along the way.
Some of the examples though, I can't really relate to, and I'm led to believe that it's the people you're playing with that have caused the problem. At least with what you're saying about trading, that seems like some BS, I 100% agree with you there, but it's not an EDH trait, it's just an ******* trait, IMO.
At the end of the day though, so many people have latched onto EDH and that's all they play. Like I said, it has replaced casual. From a collector/seller stand point, I love it, because it brings tons of money. I'm sure random schwag in your binder has become valuable for no good reason, because of EDH. Apparently, you can't trade it favorably, but it has. Wizards recognized that they can make a lot of money, and make a lot more people happy by embracing EDH, and I believe it has helped set sales a bunch. When Liliana of the Dark Realms was spoiled, I'm sure you went... what a piece of crap, but about a million people went "Oh man that will go amazing in my xyz EDH deck." It helps you in a sense that it's keeping the game alive and flourishing.
But yeah, you're right, it's flippin' painful at times. You should try Hero Clix, it's super fun!
Honestly, I don't think greed is the right word. The getting is good right now, so stores are going to take it. There will be times that business is slow too. You know, like when they make Return to Kamigawa or something.
The prices of these pre-orders are higher than I have ever seen for new boxes. Considering that RTR was the most opened set of all time, at those prices, I don't think they're gouging at all. Obviously everybody is willing to pay that.
I don't think that's greedy, that's just good business.
This is arguable considering that if you're upset with the seller, you're not going to buy from them anymore. That hurts their numbers and their cash.
I was told also that the prices from distributors have increased. I would assume that is because distributors are paying attention, and not that WoTC has raised their prices. RTR and Gatecrash are the hotness, everybody knew it going in, including distributors.
First of all, the Rav duals, and RTR in general. While it's widely considered a great set so far, and everybody is buying the crap out of it (which means lots of money for WoTC of course), it floods the supply with Rav duals. Those will be staples for Modern for sure. Now everyone has easy access to them. They knew this set would sell like mad, and that's why they made it so good. Even with just the duals it would be awesome, but it seems like so many other rares are valuable too. I think this is how they will try to control prices from now on, because why not? Eternal players get cheap staples, everybody gets awesome sets, and WoTC gets lots of money. Everybody wins.
They threw Life from the Loam in the duel deck. This is kind of a small thing, but it helps offset the cost of something that's pretty playable in Modern. Again, something small, but it shows that they'll be willing to print something like that to give more people access to it.
The third point revolves around Deathrite Shaman and Rest in Peace. While these may or may not do the job, I believe they were put there to try and combat Goyf. Especially the Shaman. I think it's their biggest problem right now with the format, and they've shown that they wont ban it, or can't find a good reason to. A lot of money will be lost if they just cut him. Instead they're trying to give people reasons to think twice about playing him in Modern, maybe even in Legacy, but that seems like a side effect.