I just put together a dredge list and am having a ton of fun with it, but I think I'm struggling with when to start dredging, and how to sideboard against matchups with tons of counters.
I've been looking through recent decklists on MTGGoldfish - is Dread Returning for a FKZ or Flayer not seen anymore? I don't think I saw any in winning decks from the past few months.
It's foolish to blame this on Kibler as well. MTGO has had issues for quite a while now. I imagine that most people (myself included) knew that something was going to happen, soon. As it happened, what happened to Kibler was enough to set things in motion, but something was going to happen ANYWAY, whether or not Kibler had said anything.
I read it as a snarky "why would you even expect to be able to support a family grinding MTGO?"
A sentiment I have to say I agree with. Wizards is under no obligation to ensure that you can continue supporting your family by grinding on MTGO.
Although I don't know LSV personally, the way I've seen him conduct himself makes it hard to believe that he meant that comment to be snarky.
Of course, the snarky response is how I probably would have meant if I had been asked, because it's foolish for various reasons I have stated previously and you have in your posts.
I'm self employed. Have been for decades. At the current time, a chunk on my income is MTGO related. Be it articles, running events, skullduggery, whatever. I worked hard to make it that way.
Is it my only income? No.
Chances are, you're in the USA. You're not living in some second or third world country, where $8 buys you luxury living. "Honest jobs" have always paid squat. Moreso in less developed countries. It's like looking at the starving Ethiopians and saying "they can just go to McDonalds". It doesn't really apply.
I get that financial considerations are different in other countries. I still think that it's irresponsible to be so invested in and have no backup plan for a "job" where you aren't employed and the market can, has, and will change at any given moment at the whims of a company that has historically made changes to prevent people like you from making major profit off of them.
Instead of trying to stir up a storm by paraphrasing or inaccurately summarising,link or paste in the full discussion (I cant, on phone). I totally don't read it as a burn by lsv but others might read diff.
Here is the transcript (pasting twitter just doesn't work)
Joe Spanier @FoundOmega 2h
As someone who's only made minimal forays into the world of paper Magic, who wants to try explaining why I shouldn't just quit MTG entirely?
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 2h
@FoundOmega honestly, playing 8-mans to practice for live events isn't the worst, if you want to attend big live events.
Willy Edel @bazardebagda 2h
@lsv @FoundOmega Agreed, I spend 90% of my mtgo time on 8men queues. Shuting down the grinders this way was absurd though.
Carlos Alexandre @_Batutinha_ 2h
@bazardebagda @lsv @FoundOmega LSV you think I can sustain my wife and my 2 kids playing 8-mans? please
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 1h
@_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega yeah....
Ben G @drazak168 1h
@lsv @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda How long have you been supporting your family, I think you told people but I can't remember
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@lsv @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega no your oblivious your not even good you had 2 luck years lsv shut the **** up
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega lol what?
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@lsv u are trash at mtg that's what you read it right
Ben G @drazak168 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv shut up spacejam, seriously, you're making a fool out of yourself, LSV is a fine player
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@drazak168 right he's fine he's not good he got lucky for 2 years that is all your not my mother thanks
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv Being an ******* on MODO just wasn't enough for ya?
Ben G @drazak168 2h
@spacejam_mtgo I'm not your english teacher either but you meant "you're" you need to chill out man
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 2h
@BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo gotta go for the double crown, if not the triple
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo Dreaming big, I like it.
Rob, The Murder King @krakenjacked 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @drazak168 good for two years=get in the HOF. GOT IT, THANKS COACH!
Jacob @jacobw 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv WAT? Lol We've found the platonic ideal of the d-bag MODO grinder.
Ben G @drazak168 2h
@krakenjacked @spacejam_mtgo I don't know who you are but I like you
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@BraunDuinIt y'all started it in just here to give you what you want, "the truth" and y'all can't handle "the truth"
Pedro Carvalho @_megafone_ 2h
@BraunDuinIt @lsv @spacejam_mtgo Give the guy a break, he just lost his job, as did I and a lot of others.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@_megafone_ @BraunDuinIt @lsv right and they want to talk **** about it **** them
nicholas lee @fullmetal779 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv gets into hall of fame spacejam here starts to troll well then i must think hes be hind 2 expores being wrongfuly acused
Jacob @jacobw 2h
@BraunDuinIt @lsv @spacejam_mtgo Come on! Everyone knows it's all the MODO shuffler's fault that he isn't Pro Tour Player of the Year.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@fullmetal779 ya I won't 2 explore people but with lsv getting in its just a hall of pretty good weak ass hall if you ask me
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv I have talked no ****. I think the change is terrible. I spent 6 months doing the grind. I get it
Owen Turtenwald @OwenTweetenwald 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @braunduinit @lsv you should consider being nicer to people, it'll help you immensely in your new job search.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@jacobw I don't try for that I make a living on modo in fine with that
@spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv That doesn't change the fact that you've been an ******* every time I've encountered you anywhere.
Patrick Chapin @thepchapin 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega Two years? That trasher had 6 luck years, zero were skill.
nicholas lee @fullmetal779 2h
@spacejam_mtgo no you didnt get what i was saying lsv is a good person ive had many chats with him hes nice but what you are doing was cont
Willy Edel @bazardebagda 2h
@drazak168 @_Batutinha_ for a lot of time he's the main provider at his house. He just had twins (less than an Year) fully sustained by mtgo
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@BraunDuinIt @_megafone_ @lsv right because I thanked you lols get outta here
Mildy Vein @Mildy_Vein 2h
@BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv To be fair there arnt many grinders out there who arnt *******s if they dont know you
Carlos Alexandre @_Batutinha_ 2h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo @bazardebagda @FoundOmega You have no idea what is the Magic Online for some people then
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@OwenTweetenwald is rather be truthful then lie I don't do that very well
nicholas lee @fullmetal779 2h
@spacejam_mtgo Completely unwarranted and was just rude if you have a problem as @top8games said write a formal letter to him
Ben G @drazak168 2h
@bazardebagda @_Batutinha_ right, was wondering how long that had been going on
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@spacejam_mtgo you "thanked" me after you beat me when I politely declined a split, and you talked **** about me in public chat in a DE.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@thepchapin @lsv @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda at least someone understands
Ginger Bear Man @TNSGingerAle 2h
@BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo @lsv "2 luck years" doesn't equal Hall of Fame. Learn to respect players/pros improving the community.
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 2h
@TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo he shouldn't treat me nicely because I'm a pro; he should because I'm a person.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@fullmetal779 @Top8Games ain't no body got time for that
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@BraunDuinIt ya cause you keep trolling everyone with your slow play
alex durrant @deathyyy 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @thepchapin @lsv did you not get he was trolling you..? LSV is infinitely better than you, lol
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@Mildy_Vein @spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv True, but that's the opposite of how it should be.
Jared Tomlinson @JT_Chicken 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv Who the **** do you think you are? LSV's nothing but nice, I don't even know you and I have zero sympathy for you.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@TNSGingerAle **** you don't care
Mike Gleeson @thegeneralisin 2h
@lsv @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo that seemed to escalate rather quickly...
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@lsv right but you don't give a **** about me or me losing my job wouldn't be so funny to you so **** u too
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@deathyyy @thepchapin @lsv I didn't say lsv wasn't better then me I said he is trash
Ginger Bear Man @TNSGingerAle 2h
@lsv @BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo He clearly can't do that so I brought another obvious reason to the table. *shrug* I'm out of ideas....
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@BraunDuinIt @Mildy_Vein @_megafone_ @lsv right, but try getting raged at daily 3 outta every 4 rounds see how ya feel
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@JT_Chicken don't give 2 ****s what you have to type
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @BraunDuinIt @Mildy_Vein the answer isn't spreading the terrible behavior. Again, pretty much a lost cause here but w/e.
Jared Tomlinson @JT_Chicken 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv The way you're acting, nobody cares. GOOD news is, eventually you can't pay for internet and you will disappear.
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @Mildy_Vein @_megafone_ @lsv Dude, I've been there. I did it for 6 months. It sucked but I didn't take it out others.
Mildy Vein @Mildy_Vein 1h
@BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv agree but it also human nature people are dark warped individual its the rule not the exception
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @drazak168 @lsv Just two lucky years.. And a perfect 16-0 pro tour, 5 pt t8s, 10 GP t8s, and is in the HoF. Not even good.
Ben G @drazak168 1h
@Jacobetes @spacejam_mtgo @lsv spacejam blocked me for asking him to chill out, and correcting his spelling, I'm sure
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@Jacobetes hey barn how many of them came in a 2 year span?
Dr. Jeebus @Dr_Jeebus 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv I played against LSV once on MTGO and never lost another ME3 draft because of it.
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 1h
@Dr_Jeebus @spacejam_mtgo was I playing Scryb Sprites and Fire Sprites? That was my favorite deck (and one of the only 2 decks I drafted).
Dr. Jeebus @Dr_Jeebus 1h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo And Jungle Lions, Growths, Blood Lust et al, yeah.When I asked your, exact words were "You don't need a late game plan."
Dr. Jeebus @Dr_Jeebus 1h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo After playing you it was one of only 2 decks I drafted. The other usually required 3x Stolen Grain.
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 1h
@Dr_Jeebus @spacejam_mtgo yeah, that deck was nigh-unbeatable in that format. All terrible cards, but everyone else was on mono-5-drops.+
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@spacejam_mtgo he won a major event every year from 06 to 09. And lucky players go 12-4 at a pt, not 16-0. The man has incredible results.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@Jacobetes right 2 years
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@spacejam_mtgo 06, 07, 08, 09. That's four years. Are you stupid?
Dr. Jeebus @Dr_Jeebus 1h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo Lu Meng, brah! How do you beat that? #ThingsEveryoneElseSays #FormatHasEightTotalFlyers #FiveAreElderDragons
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@Jacobetes don't talked please thanks
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@spacejam_mtgo learn to count, moron. Thank god for mtgo keeping track of your life total
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@drazak168 @spacejam_mtgo just in case you needed a laugh. pic.twitter.com/27cWxx0fRp
Ben G @drazak168 1h
@Jacobetes @spacejam_mtgo Oh dear.
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@drazak168 @spacejam_mtgo I literally google his name and found all the info. I was hoping he was misinformed, but nope. Just can't count.
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 51m
@_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega I was responding to the dude swearing at me, not you.
James Billings @billings_james 49m
@lsv @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo So wtf even brought on this guys rant? Just some troll?
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 49m
@billings_james @lsv @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt his dumbass said 8-4's where fair for grinders ****ing dumb is what it is ignorance
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 48m
@spacejam_mtgo @billings_james @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt not even close to what I said; I said 8-mans are good practice for live events.
James Billings @billings_james 48m
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt That's it? lol wow, dude maybe you need to step away from the computer...
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 45m
@lsv basically **** you grinders... Right?
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 44m
@spacejam_mtgo again, I never said that, nor do I control MTGO in the slightest. I was pointing out to Joe what he could do with MTGO now.
Oh dear he seems to be someone that doesn't want a real job because he doesn't want to be a slave, wishes cancer upon people, and thinks that the government is withholding the cure for cancer. What a nutjob.
It's not just you that finds it irresponsible, and apparently that's not the only person that didn't have a backup plan for what happens when someone who's not his employer changes the rules on people making money off of them.
The comment that seemed to spark the ire against LSV was when someone asked why they shouldn't just quit Magic altogether and LSV said that 8-mans are not a bad way of preparing for a big event.
https://twitter.com/lsv has him responding to some of the trolls/ragers and such. Cedric Phillips seems to have provoked them by saying that they can get a real wage now. It seems like those affected are super upset and are lashing out at everyone.
That being said, entwining yourself in MTGO seems to be just asking for problems because they can and will change the rules at a moment's notice, and could even pull the plug when they feel like it. In my opinion, it's a bad idea to revolve your life around a volatile market.
I did some minor research, and I don't think that particular token was ever created for Dissension, but I didn't play Magic back then so I don't know too much about it.
This is my current list:
4 Cephalid Coliseum
2 City of Brass
3 Gemstone Mine
4 Mana Confluence
Creatures:
2 Putrid Imp
4 Narcomoeba
4 Golgari Thug
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Ichorid
3 Street Wraith
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
3 Careful Study
4 Faithless Looting
1 Dread Return
2 Breakthrough
Enchantments:
4 Bridge From Below
Artifacts:
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
1 Ashen Rider
1 Dread Return
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Lotus Petal
2 Nature's Claim
2 Serenity
2 Silent Gravestone
I've been looking through recent decklists on MTGGoldfish - is Dread Returning for a FKZ or Flayer not seen anymore? I don't think I saw any in winning decks from the past few months.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Although I don't know LSV personally, the way I've seen him conduct himself makes it hard to believe that he meant that comment to be snarky.
Of course, the snarky response is how I probably would have meant if I had been asked, because it's foolish for various reasons I have stated previously and you have in your posts.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
I get that financial considerations are different in other countries. I still think that it's irresponsible to be so invested in and have no backup plan for a "job" where you aren't employed and the market can, has, and will change at any given moment at the whims of a company that has historically made changes to prevent people like you from making major profit off of them.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Here is the transcript (pasting twitter just doesn't work)
Joe Spanier @FoundOmega 2h
As someone who's only made minimal forays into the world of paper Magic, who wants to try explaining why I shouldn't just quit MTG entirely?
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 2h
@FoundOmega honestly, playing 8-mans to practice for live events isn't the worst, if you want to attend big live events.
Willy Edel @bazardebagda 2h
@lsv @FoundOmega Agreed, I spend 90% of my mtgo time on 8men queues. Shuting down the grinders this way was absurd though.
Carlos Alexandre @_Batutinha_ 2h
@bazardebagda @lsv @FoundOmega LSV you think I can sustain my wife and my 2 kids playing 8-mans? please
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 1h
@_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega yeah....
Ben G @drazak168 1h
@lsv @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda How long have you been supporting your family, I think you told people but I can't remember
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@lsv @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega no your oblivious your not even good you had 2 luck years lsv shut the **** up
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega lol what?
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@lsv u are trash at mtg that's what you read it right
Ben G @drazak168 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv shut up spacejam, seriously, you're making a fool out of yourself, LSV is a fine player
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@drazak168 right he's fine he's not good he got lucky for 2 years that is all your not my mother thanks
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv Being an ******* on MODO just wasn't enough for ya?
Ben G @drazak168 2h
@spacejam_mtgo I'm not your english teacher either but you meant "you're" you need to chill out man
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 2h
@BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo gotta go for the double crown, if not the triple
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo Dreaming big, I like it.
Rob, The Murder King @krakenjacked 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @drazak168 good for two years=get in the HOF. GOT IT, THANKS COACH!
Jacob @jacobw 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv WAT? Lol We've found the platonic ideal of the d-bag MODO grinder.
Ben G @drazak168 2h
@krakenjacked @spacejam_mtgo I don't know who you are but I like you
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@BraunDuinIt y'all started it in just here to give you what you want, "the truth" and y'all can't handle "the truth"
Pedro Carvalho @_megafone_ 2h
@BraunDuinIt @lsv @spacejam_mtgo Give the guy a break, he just lost his job, as did I and a lot of others.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@_megafone_ @BraunDuinIt @lsv right and they want to talk **** about it **** them
nicholas lee @fullmetal779 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv gets into hall of fame spacejam here starts to troll well then i must think hes be hind 2 expores being wrongfuly acused
Jacob @jacobw 2h
@BraunDuinIt @lsv @spacejam_mtgo Come on! Everyone knows it's all the MODO shuffler's fault that he isn't Pro Tour Player of the Year.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@fullmetal779 ya I won't 2 explore people but with lsv getting in its just a hall of pretty good weak ass hall if you ask me
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv I have talked no ****. I think the change is terrible. I spent 6 months doing the grind. I get it
Owen Turtenwald @OwenTweetenwald 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @braunduinit @lsv you should consider being nicer to people, it'll help you immensely in your new job search.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@jacobw I don't try for that I make a living on modo in fine with that
@spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv That doesn't change the fact that you've been an ******* every time I've encountered you anywhere.
Patrick Chapin @thepchapin 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega Two years? That trasher had 6 luck years, zero were skill.
William Jensen @HueyJensen 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13FV1GaA20I …
nicholas lee @fullmetal779 2h
@spacejam_mtgo no you didnt get what i was saying lsv is a good person ive had many chats with him hes nice but what you are doing was cont
Willy Edel @bazardebagda 2h
@drazak168 @_Batutinha_ for a lot of time he's the main provider at his house. He just had twins (less than an Year) fully sustained by mtgo
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@BraunDuinIt @_megafone_ @lsv right because I thanked you lols get outta here
Mildy Vein @Mildy_Vein 2h
@BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv To be fair there arnt many grinders out there who arnt *******s if they dont know you
Carlos Alexandre @_Batutinha_ 2h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo @bazardebagda @FoundOmega You have no idea what is the Magic Online for some people then
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@OwenTweetenwald is rather be truthful then lie I don't do that very well
nicholas lee @fullmetal779 2h
@spacejam_mtgo Completely unwarranted and was just rude if you have a problem as @top8games said write a formal letter to him
Ben G @drazak168 2h
@bazardebagda @_Batutinha_ right, was wondering how long that had been going on
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@spacejam_mtgo you "thanked" me after you beat me when I politely declined a split, and you talked **** about me in public chat in a DE.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@thepchapin @lsv @_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda at least someone understands
Ginger Bear Man @TNSGingerAle 2h
@BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo @lsv "2 luck years" doesn't equal Hall of Fame. Learn to respect players/pros improving the community.
William Jensen @HueyJensen 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @OwenTweetenwald http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFEEa-jibhs …
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 2h
@TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo he shouldn't treat me nicely because I'm a pro; he should because I'm a person.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@fullmetal779 @Top8Games ain't no body got time for that
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@BraunDuinIt ya cause you keep trolling everyone with your slow play
alex durrant @deathyyy 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @thepchapin @lsv did you not get he was trolling you..? LSV is infinitely better than you, lol
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 2h
@Mildy_Vein @spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv True, but that's the opposite of how it should be.
Jared Tomlinson @JT_Chicken 2h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv Who the **** do you think you are? LSV's nothing but nice, I don't even know you and I have zero sympathy for you.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@TNSGingerAle **** you don't care
Mike Gleeson @thegeneralisin 2h
@lsv @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo that seemed to escalate rather quickly...
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@lsv right but you don't give a **** about me or me losing my job wouldn't be so funny to you so **** u too
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@deathyyy @thepchapin @lsv I didn't say lsv wasn't better then me I said he is trash
Ginger Bear Man @TNSGingerAle 2h
@lsv @BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo He clearly can't do that so I brought another obvious reason to the table. *shrug* I'm out of ideas....
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 2h
@BraunDuinIt @Mildy_Vein @_megafone_ @lsv right, but try getting raged at daily 3 outta every 4 rounds see how ya feel
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@JT_Chicken don't give 2 ****s what you have to type
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @BraunDuinIt @Mildy_Vein the answer isn't spreading the terrible behavior. Again, pretty much a lost cause here but w/e.
Jared Tomlinson @JT_Chicken 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv The way you're acting, nobody cares. GOOD news is, eventually you can't pay for internet and you will disappear.
Brian Braun-Duin @BraunDuinIt 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @Mildy_Vein @_megafone_ @lsv Dude, I've been there. I did it for 6 months. It sucked but I didn't take it out others.
Mildy Vein @Mildy_Vein 1h
@BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo @_megafone_ @lsv agree but it also human nature people are dark warped individual its the rule not the exception
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @drazak168 @lsv Just two lucky years.. And a perfect 16-0 pro tour, 5 pt t8s, 10 GP t8s, and is in the HoF. Not even good.
Ben G @drazak168 1h
@Jacobetes @spacejam_mtgo @lsv spacejam blocked me for asking him to chill out, and correcting his spelling, I'm sure
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@Jacobetes hey barn how many of them came in a 2 year span?
Dr. Jeebus @Dr_Jeebus 1h
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv I played against LSV once on MTGO and never lost another ME3 draft because of it.
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 1h
@Dr_Jeebus @spacejam_mtgo was I playing Scryb Sprites and Fire Sprites? That was my favorite deck (and one of the only 2 decks I drafted).
Dr. Jeebus @Dr_Jeebus 1h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo And Jungle Lions, Growths, Blood Lust et al, yeah.When I asked your, exact words were "You don't need a late game plan."
Dr. Jeebus @Dr_Jeebus 1h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo After playing you it was one of only 2 decks I drafted. The other usually required 3x Stolen Grain.
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 1h
@Dr_Jeebus @spacejam_mtgo yeah, that deck was nigh-unbeatable in that format. All terrible cards, but everyone else was on mono-5-drops.+
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@spacejam_mtgo he won a major event every year from 06 to 09. And lucky players go 12-4 at a pt, not 16-0. The man has incredible results.
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@Jacobetes right 2 years
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@spacejam_mtgo 06, 07, 08, 09. That's four years. Are you stupid?
Dr. Jeebus @Dr_Jeebus 1h
@lsv @spacejam_mtgo Lu Meng, brah! How do you beat that? #ThingsEveryoneElseSays #FormatHasEightTotalFlyers #FiveAreElderDragons
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 1h
@Jacobetes don't talked please thanks
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@spacejam_mtgo learn to count, moron. Thank god for mtgo keeping track of your life total
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@drazak168 @spacejam_mtgo just in case you needed a laugh. pic.twitter.com/27cWxx0fRp
Ben G @drazak168 1h
@Jacobetes @spacejam_mtgo Oh dear.
Jb Pry @Jacobetes 1h
@drazak168 @spacejam_mtgo I literally google his name and found all the info. I was hoping he was misinformed, but nope. Just can't count.
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 51m
@_Batutinha_ @bazardebagda @FoundOmega I was responding to the dude swearing at me, not you.
James Billings @billings_james 49m
@lsv @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt @spacejam_mtgo So wtf even brought on this guys rant? Just some troll?
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 49m
@billings_james @lsv @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt his dumbass said 8-4's where fair for grinders ****ing dumb is what it is ignorance
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 48m
@spacejam_mtgo @billings_james @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt not even close to what I said; I said 8-mans are good practice for live events.
James Billings @billings_james 48m
@spacejam_mtgo @lsv @TNSGingerAle @BraunDuinIt That's it? lol wow, dude maybe you need to step away from the computer...
Brooks L Clark @spacejam_mtgo 45m
@lsv basically **** you grinders... Right?
Luis Scott-Vargas @lsv 44m
@spacejam_mtgo again, I never said that, nor do I control MTGO in the slightest. I was pointing out to Joe what he could do with MTGO now.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
That being said, entwining yourself in MTGO seems to be just asking for problems because they can and will change the rules at a moment's notice, and could even pull the plug when they feel like it. In my opinion, it's a bad idea to revolve your life around a volatile market.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Were that many people really making a living doing dailies?
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
Even better is when you both are on your laptops in separate events (of course) right next to each other laughing and talking.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.
I wish it was. My set of Snapcasters wish to flash it back, or any of the other goodies that would be put in the graveyard.
My RWU modern deck just made a new friend.
Thanks to Rivenor for the art.