If everyone was to actually hold onto these duals and staples like the people in this thread claim to be doing, Legacy will be on the way out. SCG won't back a format where they have no cards to sell to the players of the format they are propping up. If duals become that scarce, all the other Legacy staples will skyrocket as well. There will be no availability.
wrong. if legacy is dead as you say because people hoard duals, then when the tournament scene is dead, people will liquidate their cards. An equilibrium price will then be met somewhere down the line with demand decreasing and supply slowly increasing due to people cashing out.
Yup! Just like vintage, which we all know is as healthy as ever. /s
Vintage doesn't have a multi-thousand dollar dollar weekly tournament circuit attached to it.
Vintage used to be a healthy and vibrant format until price and availability issues pushed people out. It had prize support too. I was commenting that people didn't simply sell off their power to have a happy medium for tournament players and availability. Prices will eventually push people out if the game keeps growing and people refuse to sell their duals, as many will.
If everyone was to actually hold onto these duals and staples like the people in this thread claim to be doing, Legacy will be on the way out. SCG won't back a format where they have no cards to sell to the players of the format they are propping up. If duals become that scarce, all the other Legacy staples will skyrocket as well. There will be no availability.
wrong. if legacy is dead as you say because people hoard duals, then when the tournament scene is dead, people will liquidate their cards. An equilibrium price will then be met somewhere down the line with demand decreasing and supply slowly increasing due to people cashing out.
Yup! Just like vintage, which we all know is as healthy as ever. /s
I got all of my fetchlands for sub $10, and just recently cashed my check from buylisting them. Turning less than than $200 into over $1000 is an insane margin for any investment, and I have no regrets cashing out as a 20-something graduating with college debt this May.
As always, what you should do is dependent on what risks you want to invoke, and what your priorities are. For now, I'm fine skipping and just cubing until modern, a format based on eligibility to reprint, has cheaper fetchlands.
I wish you all luck on whatever decision you make! I am happy with my outcome, no matter what happens in the coming months.
I've been more impressed with Xenagos, but my playgroup wanted to try out Huntmaster, so I cut Xenagos for him. I'd love to hear some more on this since it is very relevant to my recent change.
Sadly I can't give you too much advice, but my personal experience from selling to multiple buylists for 3 years has given me a good idea of what worthwhile rares pass off as "bulk." The key here is that most of these derive value from casual demand, and hence, are things casual players love! Stuff like Myr Matrix or Field Marshal. These may be extreme examples (worth a decent buck) but do prove my point: these are cards tournament players wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, and hence, aren't often known as being worth anything.
The most important word on this card is certainly lifelink. This is not a reanimator card - it is a black midrange engine. The lifelink lets you get to the lategame where you can actually start activating the whip for value. I have been hugely impressed with this card and I pick it fairly high.
I sold all of my nonfoil fetches, but kept the foil. It's more speculative, but if the arts change then old foils will likely hold value better due to being iconic, just like the Rav shocks. Foils also have a higher ceiling comparatively. I wouldn't blink an eye if they were worth 2x+ the nonfoil counterparts. Like I mentioned earlier, I'd look to original Rav shocks for comparisons here.
If you had a large amount of foils I wouldn't feel bad pawning them off, but I had a small amount and decided to just keep them in my cube.
Not sure if the spike is related, but on one of Kibler's recent streams he was playing modern zoo and mentioned Fracturing Gust is much better than Creeping Corrosion as a sideboard card because the gust also hurts boggles.
Liquidating is certainly tempting to me. With Celestial Colonnade being $18 and Scalding Tarn / Misty Rainforest $70, these are almost 700% increases in price if you got them during their standard runs. That is an insane return on investment, and better than most could ever hope for. Fetches especially are something that will be reprinted at some point for the longevity of the modern format.
For something almost assuredly getting a reprint, how much is enough before cashing out?
I certainly like him. I'm hoping we get a cycle of playable bestow rares much like this and Boon Satyr. Part of why I liked Boon Satyr so much was from flash, but flying is also quite powerful. He will get a testing session in my cube, I think.
Even outside of mono black, he's good enough in black decks that can cast him (even if it's later than turn 3). BB/x Pox/Stax decks, for example, make really good use of this guy. I'll play him in any black deck with enough sources of black to cast him. I mean, it's 7 power and 4 direct lifeloss for 3 mana.
Hmm, I see. I guess when we tried running him, the B/R decks ended up being skewed more towards red rather than black which made him much harder to cast in comparison to the deck you gave as an example. I'd be willing to give him another try, but he was a consistent 15th pick for us.
I searched your thread to look at the thoughts on Geralf's Messenger, but it seems like most of the talk was inconclusive ideas from testing him out. I'm quite surprised on current inclusion given how narrow he is thanks to the restrictive mana cost. Has he impressed you enough to earn his keep as an incentive to play mono black?
Vintage used to be a healthy and vibrant format until price and availability issues pushed people out. It had prize support too. I was commenting that people didn't simply sell off their power to have a happy medium for tournament players and availability. Prices will eventually push people out if the game keeps growing and people refuse to sell their duals, as many will.
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Yup! Just like vintage, which we all know is as healthy as ever. /s
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As always, what you should do is dependent on what risks you want to invoke, and what your priorities are. For now, I'm fine skipping and just cubing until modern, a format based on eligibility to reprint, has cheaper fetchlands.
I wish you all luck on whatever decision you make! I am happy with my outcome, no matter what happens in the coming months.
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If you had a large amount of foils I wouldn't feel bad pawning them off, but I had a small amount and decided to just keep them in my cube.
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For something almost assuredly getting a reprint, how much is enough before cashing out?
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If Norin the Wary.dec gets enough momentum and becomes playable, Champ and Ranger of Eos are key players in the deck to watch out for.
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I can't help but want some of these for cube. I wouldn't have to worry about the proxy duals getting stolen.
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I probably lack some of the most important stax/pox bits, more of a minor subtheme.
Anyhow, I was just curious how he was performing for you. Thanks for the responses!
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Hmm, I see. I guess when we tried running him, the B/R decks ended up being skewed more towards red rather than black which made him much harder to cast in comparison to the deck you gave as an example. I'd be willing to give him another try, but he was a consistent 15th pick for us.
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